Using 2 controllers with custom playbooks for CPU vs CPU games

[mcgriffi]

Re: Using 2 controllers with custom playbooks for CPU vs CPU games

Huge credit to TommyCoa!

Posts 27-29 in this thread were absolute game changers for me last year on the PS5.
These tips allowed me to use custom playbooks for each game (both teams) that I played-which makes all the difference.

I do a 32 team control cpu vs cpu franchise in which I have a coaching legend be the mastermind/gm behind the scenes for each franchise. I put all the info in my notes of my phone as to what system/gm/offensive and defensive playbooks each team is running. So a couple examples were Bill Walsh in charge of the 49ers or Jimmy Johnson running the cowboys. I would keep the original coaches in the game with coach firing option off. Then on game day assign the Jimmy Johnson Pro Run (lots of I formation) offense I created and 4-3 Base (bend but don't break) defense I created. If they are playing the Bears as the opponent I would assign my Mike Ditka 46 D and Old school pro sets vertical passing game. This game would have lots of runs because for both of those created playbooks I would keep the run play to pass play ratio relevant to that particular team. In terms of created pass plays-Cowboys with a more intermediate passing game and the Bears looking for more shot plays which fits with tradition of speedster receivers like Willie Gault Lol.
The 49er offense with Bill Walsh West Coast-crossing routes, involving the TE/HB in passing game, keeping the QB out of shotgun and under center,etc
I created tons of custom playbooks and uploaded them to madden share then download them with my other created profile so that both profiles have access.

I then track legacy points for each of my gm/teams and try to see who is actually the greatest system/mastermind of all time. Each playbook has 20 slots per situation so no team has more plays or any advantage that way. In the off-season I take the persona of each team and draft for each squad. What would Mike Holmgren and Green Bay do with this pick? Or Bill Parcells and the Giants? I do this for each team.
Legacy Points:
1st Round Playoff Spot: 5 points
2nd Round Playoff Spot: 10 points
Conference Title Spot: 20 points
Super Bowl Spot: 40 points
Super Bowl Champs: 80 points

I know I am a sports nerd! However this is how I play Lol

Sorry for the long post however I do have a question:

Will this 2 controller method work for playbooks on the PS5 again this year?

I already bought the PC version because of the modding potential but am missing the playbook control that I had with console. Anyways-if anybody knows any info on this front just let me know-thanks!

[zeroice]

Re: Using 2 controllers with custom playbooks for CPU vs CPU games

I use the two controller method all the time so what I do is choose the playbook for the cpu, then move the controller to the middle. The playbook remains the custom one I chose for the cpu and I play the game. I figured this out when trying to select the uniforms for the cpu and that sticks as well.

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. Been doing that for years only way to get the CPU to use a playbook other than the one you are using . I use a 32 team etc I have edited every playbook etc to their true tendencies etc we should be able to change the playbook on the CPU without doing this but we never have lol I remember way back when I first noticed it I was running a 3-4 with Pittsburgh and I noticed the browns were using a 3-4 and running the same offense. Was lol so way back then I started to do what most of us do the two controller method .

[Longusmagus]

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Okay so i did the process of creating a playbook. Then downloading it on my second user which has a psn and ea acc
Unfortunately i only can move 1 Controller as the dominant one. When i now put the cpu controller in to the middle(the cpu has to be the dominant otherwise i cant move them in to the middle) the game crashes. Is there anyway in madden to have two dominant controllers? What am I missing any idea guys?

[Hubie]

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The team’s aren’t disappearing on me. it works like it has for 4-5 years. im using the play the moments hack, not the 3rd team qb hack.

start a game in Play the moment with 2 controllers.

set up custom books.

the game will start on super sim fast with text messages. you may miss a couple of plays. back out of it and choose slow speed for super sim.

I tried this method and it is alot quicker. Do you know if there is a way the cpu team depth chart sticks?

[tommycoa]

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I tried this method and it is alot quicker. Do you know if there is a way the cpu team depth chart sticks?

Leave Fill Roster OFF. Be sure each team is set for this. Scheme changes, playbooks, and depth charts stick to how your adjust them even if you retire the coach.

Probably 1000 games played this way by starting in play the moments and it’s the best way for cpu cpu. Games play out way more realistically. I think it’s because the game thinks 2 humans are playing and lefels the underneath code and the playing field.

[Hubie]

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Leave Fill Roster OFF. Be sure each team is set for this. Scheme changes, playbooks, and depth charts stick to how your adjust them even if you retire the coach.

Probably 1000 games played this way by starting in play the moments and it’s the best way for cpu cpu. Games play out way more realistically. I think it’s because the game thinks 2 humans are playing and lefels the underneath code and the playing field.

Once I retire the coach fill roster goes back to on for me.

[StormsWarning]

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https://youtu.be/E8HOSrpxwSs

Tommyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!! Oooooooooo Mann you have done it now!!!


I 100% had no idea this was possible.... I can confirm this works 100% with all custom playbooks on offense and defense plus classic uniforms in madden 20!!!!

And no Crashing!!!! Man this is absolutely so hugeeee because to my knowledge using the 3rd string didn't always work, I personally always struggled with it and never successfully was able to set it up!

And when I use to try and run custom books it would Normally crash the whole game. That's why most if us just stuck to playing play now games, cause none of us could figure out how to make it work in franchise without crashing and disappearing teams.


Do you realize the magnitude of this? Lol

Custom playbooks in Franchise mode with set depth charts, and schemes...

Thank you Tommy I had no idea.

We have all of Percussions plus your created books for the late 90s to match those all the classic rosters.

Aint no game from the past or current able to do this like madden 20! This is outstanding...

Super excited..

[zuddy123]

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Leave Fill Roster OFF. Be sure each team is set for this. Scheme changes, playbooks, and depth charts stick to how your adjust them even if you retire the coach.

Probably 1000 games played this way by starting in play the moments and it’s the best way for cpu cpu. Games play out way more realistically. I think it’s because the game thinks 2 humans are playing and lefels the underneath code and the playing field.

What's your quarter Length? Do you still use 15 Minutes and 11 Acceleration Clock?

[tommycoa]

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What's your quarter Length? Do you still use 15 Minutes and 11 Acceleration Clock?

15 minutes with 13 second runoff. But i do have custom playbooks on both sides of the ball and the teams run the ball at a realistic clip. Try 12 runoff if you use default playbooks.

The default playbooks in this game are garbage. Both offense and defense. Offense has too many pass plays and some of the teams dont have plays for certain situations. The defensive books have way too much zone and not enough blitzing.

People fuss about sliders and player ratings being too high but the playbooks are the biggest problem. Most of the problems we see is based on playbooks. If they were to put a little bit more time into playbooks, more people would love this game. These playbooks are the brain of the game outside of the awareness rating.

[sportsgamingguy2023]

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15 minutes with 13 second runoff. But i do have custom playbooks on both sides of the ball and the teams run the ball at a realistic clip. Try 12 runoff if you use default playbooks.

The default playbooks in this game are garbage. Both offense and defense. Offense has too many pass plays and some of the teams dont have plays for certain situations. The defensive books have way too much zone and not enough blitzing.

People fuss about sliders and player ratings being too high but the playbooks are the biggest problem. Most of the problems we see is based on playbooks. If they were to put a little bit more time into playbooks, more people would love this game. These playbooks are the brain of the game outside of the awareness rating.

Truer words were never spoken. Playbooks playbooks playbooks...

[zuddy123]

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15 minutes with 13 second runoff. But i do have custom playbooks on both sides of the ball and the teams run the ball at a realistic clip. Try 12 runoff if you use default playbooks.

The default playbooks in this game are garbage. Both offense and defense. Offense has too many pass plays and some of the teams dont have plays for certain situations. The defensive books have way too much zone and not enough blitzing.

People fuss about sliders and player ratings being too high but the playbooks are the biggest problem. Most of the problems we see is based on playbooks. If they were to put a little bit more time into playbooks, more people would love this game. These playbooks are the brain of the game outside of the awareness rating.

Thanks man I'll try that out

[zuddy123]

Re: Using 2 controllers with custom playbooks for CPU vs CPU games

15 minutes with 13 second runoff. But i do have custom playbooks on both sides of the ball and the teams run the ball at a realistic clip. Try 12 runoff if you use default playbooks.

The default playbooks in this game are garbage. Both offense and defense. Offense has too many pass plays and some of the teams dont have plays for certain situations. The defensive books have way too much zone and not enough blitzing.

People fuss about sliders and player ratings being too high but the playbooks are the biggest problem. Most of the problems we see is based on playbooks. If they were to put a little bit more time into playbooks, more people would love this game. These playbooks are the brain of the game outside of the awareness rating.

Also, what number of total plays per game with custom playbooks?

[tommycoa]

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Also, what number of total plays per game with custom playbooks?

124-132 plays. 127 average.

[zuddy123]

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124-132 plays. 127 average.

Do you edit the playbooks? And also do you Profile reset every time you about to head into a game because back in your madden 21 post you said you Profile reset everytime when you are about to head into the game.

[tommycoa]

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Do you edit the playbooks? And also do you Profile reset every time you about to head into a game because back in your madden 21 post you said you Profile reset everytime when you are about to head into the game.

Yes i edit both offesnive and defensive playbooks for each team. I use 30 plays for each situation and half star each play. I don’t profile reset after every game anymore, im on xbox 1 madden 23. But if i see a wierd game thats out of the norm, i do the profile reset. If theres a patch for the game, i do it as well.