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  • ODogg
    Hall Of Fame
    • Feb 2003
    • 37953

    #46
    Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

    Originally posted by cima
    Nah this **** is objectively broken. If the slider is set to 0 then INTs shouldn't happen but they still do. I remember in Madden 22 if you set the CPU INTs slider to 0 and you threw what should be an INT it would just bounce off the CPU's hands versus in 23 the INTs still happen and some of them are just very unrealistic.
    If the slider ain't broken, I don't know that it is but I am hearing some folks say it is, then what you cite above may not be a philosophical design difference, but an actual bug. I'm curious to see if this will be fixed tomorrow w the patch though.
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    • Instant C1a55ic
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      • Mar 2007
      • 2957

      #47
      Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

      I tried lol

      I honestly give up. Earlier I said it was me, and I am not afraid to say I was wrong. I set the slider to zero, and I still can't make a throw without an int.

      I have played 10 games, and in those 10 games, 18ints...18.

      We are talking every swat, every pop up deflection, REACHING THROUGH the WR....ints everywhere. I have managed one int free game, and I had to be perfect.

      Hope they fix it soon, I'm not buying until it's fixed.

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      • NoleFan
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2002
        • 12855

        #48
        Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

        As someone who was all about interception fest in M22 and have my issues again this year, I can look at the ones I throw now and KNOW it's because I threw scared and made a bad decision. And trust me, I'm CERTAINLY not a "get gud bro" type of dude. In my QB FotF I have 7 TD and 8 INT through my first 2 regular season games but I know I'll get better at it with the placement & accuracy passing mechanic and then start to be almost cheesing the CPU. lol
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        • SituationSoap
          Rookie
          • Jul 2017
          • 37

          #49
          Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

          Regarding the idea that it's a player problem: some of that may be true.

          But I played the first game of a Lions franchise last night. No roster changes. All-Pro, default sliders, simulation game style.

          I went 21-24 for 335 yards and 4 TDs with Goff. Also, one pick. That pick? A crossing route, with man to man coverage where the receiver just...didn't attempt to play the ball, and the defender sped up by four steps to cut off the pass and intercept it in stride. None of my passes were screens or jet sweeps or anything, it was all legitimate downfield passing. Longest pass play was like 30 yards, so it's not like I had a couple 80 yarders and then a ton of dink and dunk.

          I'm not going to pretend that I'm some kind of savant at the game, but I feel like I do OK. Obviously, I'm fully capable of running a passing game. But it's very possible to recognize that defenders are making plays that they straight up couldn't and never do make in real life. You see plays like that multiple times per game if you're controlling both the offense and the defense. It's possible for the game to be pretty wacky in terms of pass defense right now and for that not to be a problem with any individual user.

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          • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
            MVP
            • Dec 2009
            • 4682

            #50
            Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

            Originally posted by cima
            I’m fairly certain interceptions are broken because I set the CPU slider to 0 just to test it and I’ll still get picked off multiple times per game. That shouldn’t happen if it’s at 0.


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            I just threw a jump ball to FB Kyle Juszczyk in the red zone and he won. Granted, I manually caught the ball and used the high throw modifier.
            Originally posted by Therebelyell626
            I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
            https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

            Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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            • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
              MVP
              • Dec 2009
              • 4682

              #51
              Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

              Originally posted by SituationSoap
              Regarding the idea that it's a player problem: some of that may be true.

              But I played the first game of a Lions franchise last night. No roster changes. All-Pro, default sliders, simulation game style.

              I went 21-24 for 335 yards and 4 TDs with Goff. Also, one pick. That pick? A crossing route, with man to man coverage where the receiver just...didn't attempt to play the ball, and the defender sped up by four steps to cut off the pass and intercept it in stride. None of my passes were screens or jet sweeps or anything, it was all legitimate downfield passing. Longest pass play was like 30 yards, so it's not like I had a couple 80 yarders and then a ton of dink and dunk.

              I'm not going to pretend that I'm some kind of savant at the game, but I feel like I do OK. Obviously, I'm fully capable of running a passing game. But it's very possible to recognize that defenders are making plays that they straight up couldn't and never do make in real life. You see plays like that multiple times per game if you're controlling both the offense and the defense. It's possible for the game to be pretty wacky in terms of pass defense right now and for that not to be a problem with any individual user.
              I reduced that by reducing CPU INT to 12, CPU pass reaction time to 45, and user WR ability to 60.
              Originally posted by Therebelyell626
              I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
              https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

              Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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              • Jagsfan24
                MVP
                • Mar 2016
                • 1853

                #52
                Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

                I reiterated earlier in this thread but, I’m not having much issues with this. Probably because when I throw the ball I will manually try catching it or pressing the Y button for aggressive catching.

                My issue with the game still is yes interceptions are still high in general, and my DBs lack the aggression when playing defense.

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                • Danimal
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 2198

                  #53
                  Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

                  Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
                  It’s weird.. I swear CPU WRs and DBs attack the ball while the USER WRs and DBs won’t attack the ball.
                  It's intentional in my mind. You can actually prove this if you feel like doing the work. Stack a team with the top rated DB's. Then play offense against them, then control the D and let the offense be run by the CPU. It's easy to see there IMO
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                  • ODogg
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 37953

                    #54
                    Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

                    Originally posted by NoleFan
                    As someone who was all about interception fest in M22 and have my issues again this year, I can look at the ones I throw now and KNOW it's because I threw scared and made a bad decision. And trust me, I'm CERTAINLY not a "get gud bro" type of dude. In my QB FotF I have 7 TD and 8 INT through my first 2 regular season games but I know I'll get better at it with the placement & accuracy passing mechanic and then start to be almost cheesing the CPU. lol
                    Hey Nole! Long time no chat. I agree!

                    I said yesterday that EA should market this with the tagline "FEEL THE FEAR" cuz everytime I drop back to pass boy do I get pretty afraid. I think all of us are going to have to adjust and learn to throw the ball away more and not force the issue.

                    95% of my interceptions are nothing more than my panicked decision *OR* the Favre thought process of "oh it's a small window but I'll get it in there" and that's just how I like it.

                    In fact, I have read that they say what makes a great game is that when you fail at it you know what you did wrong and want to try it again and again. Easy to play and very hard to master.

                    That is how I feel about Madden 23 so I ain't complaining I'm throwing so many interceptions...but still..about that slider
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                    • NoleFan
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 12855

                      #55
                      Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

                      Originally posted by ODogg
                      Hey Nole! Long time no chat. I agree!

                      I said yesterday that EA should market this with the tagline "FEEL THE FEAR" cuz everytime I drop back to pass boy do I get pretty afraid. I think all of us are going to have to adjust and learn to throw the ball away more and not force the issue.

                      95% of my interceptions are nothing more than my panicked decision *OR* the Favre thought process of "oh it's a small window but I'll get it in there" and that's just how I like it.

                      In fact, I have read that they say what makes a great game is that when you fail at it you know what you did wrong and want to try it again and again. Easy to play and very hard to master.

                      That is how I feel about Madden 23 so I ain't complaining I'm throwing so many interceptions...but still..about that slider
                      Agreed. I can't wait to get home and subject myself to potentially more picks. It's just that much fun. Darn you EA. LOL
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                      • Therebelyell626
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2018
                        • 2876

                        #56
                        Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

                        Originally posted by canes21
                        There are multiple things at play here. First, default slider values are way too high. Drop the interception slider into the teens or single digits. Second, many people are still getting used to passing with the new defensive play and are likely throwing late/forcing passes. You need to throw with anticipation more now than ever. Don't be afraid to dump it off or even take the sack if needed. Third, for years now user WR's will not make an aggressive catch attempt unless the user either throws a high pass or presses Y/Triangle to attempt the aggressive catch. WR's will always let the ball come to them unless you do one of those two things. CPU WR's will use all catch types on their own, but user WR's will not for some reason.
                        This is spot on! I’ve noticed this year you really have to high point the ball to get your receiver to do a decent aggressive catch. Even on regular throws when you go for the aggressive catch the receiver is jumping like one inch off the ground. I think people need to get used to the fact that the L1 button is the only way they are going to get those “Odell Beckham” catches of years past

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                        • ODogg
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 37953

                          #57
                          Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

                          This is on PC, but this shows that yes WR's do go more after the ball. In past years this was a guaranteed INT or drop ball..

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                          • Therebelyell626
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2018
                            • 2876

                            #58
                            Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

                            Originally posted by Detroit Tigers
                            I just don’t understand how year after year threads like this can be interpreted as meaning anything different from “I totally suck.”

                            Reddit has the same problem when I point this out and they dowwnvote me to hell, so if you’re offended reading this you’re in excellent company I guess.

                            But seriously wtf? — Why do these threads always revolve around sliders and “legacy issues” and “bad ai” and never about how if you’re SUCKING HOTDOGS at passing maybe call better plays? Maybe execute better? Maybe go down in difficulty? Maybe stop sucking so hard? Maybe stop putting your QBA slider at 15?

                            Like my god, every year, over and over and over.

                            Listen to me: if you can’t get your QB to put up good, realistic numbers I blame one, single person. Take a guess who it is.

                            Sorry I’m just so tired of this. No other game fanbase is like this. You’re trash, OP, that’s it. And I’m tired of everyone pretending you’re not while they tapdance around “what’s wrong” here.
                            This was absolutely unnecessary, and on the verge of incoherent pandering. Please be more constructive in your future posts. This isn’t Reddit, we try and respect each other on OS.

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                            • Therebelyell626
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2018
                              • 2876

                              #59
                              Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

                              Originally posted by ODogg
                              This is on PC, but this shows that yes WR's do go more after the ball. In past years this was a guaranteed INT or drop ball..

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                              Yeah but this is on PC. Isn’t that the old gen game engine? I think people are having problems on the next gen version. Not being disrespectful, just asking

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                              • SolidSquid
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2014
                                • 3159

                                #60
                                Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

                                Originally posted by ODogg
                                This is on PC, but this shows that yes WR's do go more after the ball. In past years this was a guaranteed INT or drop ball..

                                <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/P7uNIh1_zhg" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                                The pc version is the same as the ps4, so it isn’t the same game as t he ps5/Xbox whatever version

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