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  • okcyankee
    Rookie
    • Oct 2010
    • 14

    #226
    Re: DManChi Madden 17 Coach mode sliders

    Do these work on PS3?

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    • dman08
      Pro
      • Jan 2008
      • 754

      #227
      Re: DManChi Madden 17 Coach mode sliders

      Originally posted by okcyankee
      Do these work on PS3?
      Not sure. You can try them and let everyone know. I can't see why they wouldn't tho
      Watch me at twitch.tv/dmanchi

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      • Johnny Mathis
        Just started!
        • Sep 2016
        • 1

        #228
        Re: DManChi Madden 17 Coach mode sliders

        Dooders I dig the sliders but what I've done to change things a little is lower that tackling a lot(28) and leaving the run block at 54. Might be too many BTKs but it seems to have a better feel to the run game. Have u tried a super low tackling approach? Also have any of you notice any weather variations? It's always clear skies or maybe some clouds for me. I've had one game in Miami where it was raining but that's it. I've even tried quitting and restarting games to have success with rain or snow

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        • dman08
          Pro
          • Jan 2008
          • 754

          #229
          Re: DManChi Madden 17 Coach mode sliders

          Originally posted by Johnny Mathis
          Dooders I dig the sliders but what I've done to change things a little is lower that tackling a lot(28) and leaving the run block at 54. Might be too many BTKs but it seems to have a better feel to the run game. Have u tried a super low tackling approach? Also have any of you notice any weather variations? It's always clear skies or maybe some clouds for me. I've had one game in Miami where it was raining but that's it. I've even tried quitting and restarting games to have success with rain or snow
          I raised tackling bcuz the cpu was already breaking too many big runs imo. But make the game play the way u want it to. There might have to be some changes now anyway after this tuner that was just released today. And yes I've seen weather changes including snow games in Chicago late in the season
          Watch me at twitch.tv/dmanchi

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          • mcgriffi
            Rookie
            • Aug 2008
            • 104

            #230
            Re: DManChi Madden 17 Coach mode sliders

            Any updates to your sliders with new tuner? Probably not going to download tuner until see what you come up with.

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            • dman08
              Pro
              • Jan 2008
              • 754

              #231
              Re: DManChi Madden 17 Coach mode sliders

              Originally posted by mcgriffi
              Any updates to your sliders with new tuner? Probably not going to download tuner until see what you come up with.
              I've been getting the same gameplay honestly. No updates since the tuner yet
              Watch me at twitch.tv/dmanchi

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              • steviegolfballs
                Rookie
                • Feb 2010
                • 243

                #232
                Re: DManChi Madden 17 Coach mode sliders

                Stupid question, how can I tell if the latest patch has been downloaded into my game? XB1

                Thanks!

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                • page_17_
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 13

                  #233
                  Re: DManChi Madden 17 Coach mode sliders

                  Originally posted by dman08
                  These sliders are for those who use slow speed supersim to watch the cpu vs cpu aspect. You can even put this on coach mode and call all the plays or play the moment and let the cpu run the play you called in key situations. I've had great games doing both. Now 1 thing I'm uncertain of is whether or not these work the same in a 32 team user controlled franchise. I tested these in a 1 man online franchise. I would imagine they work the same if you're doing a solo offline franchise. I'm not so sure about 32 users because some of the feedback I was getting was not good. So my advice would be to use these in a solo franchise. However, I would like to know if in fact these provide different results in a 32 user franchise. I used TDawg's xp sliders with this set. Now I'm gonna warn you that pressure may not always get there. In fact it's based on your team and your opponent. EA's concept of 4 seconds in the pocket is once you plant your back foot. That is where they begin the count. So don't worry you'll still see sacks. I increased the coverage to help make up for the time in the pocket. I didn't wanna lower pass blocking and have the sack problem we had 2 years ago. Any questions or feedback on anything let me know and I'll answer as soon as I can. Enjoy!

                  Latest edits: (9/7)

                  League Settings:
                  Skill Level: All-Madden
                  Game Speed: Slow
                  Injury: On
                  Quarter Length: 15 minutes
                  Accelerated Clock: On
                  Minimum Play Clock Time: 13

                  Gameplay Sliders User/CPU:
                  QB Accuracy: 17 (9/20)
                  Pass Blocking: 54 (9/20)
                  WR Catching: 44
                  Run Blocking: 55/58 (9/21)
                  Fumbles: 65
                  Pass Defense Reaction Time: 100
                  Interceptions: 34
                  Pass Coverage: 100
                  Tackling: 60

                  Special Teams:
                  FG Power: 47
                  FG Accuracy: 45
                  Punt Power: 45
                  Punt Accuracy: 100
                  Kickoff Power: 100

                  Game Options:
                  Injuries: 51
                  Fatigue: 58
                  Min Player Speed Threshold: 90

                  Penalties:
                  Offside: 60
                  False Start: 40
                  Holding: 75 (9/7)
                  Defensive Holding: 80 (9/7)
                  Face Mask: 53
                  Defensive PI: 80
                  Offensive PI: Off
                  Kick Catch Interference: On
                  Illegal Block In The Back: 50 (9/7)
                  Intentional Grounding: On (9/7)
                  Roughing Passer: 50
                  Roughing Kicker: On
                  Running Into The Kicker: On

                  Auto Subs: out/in
                  Qb: 0/10
                  Rb: 77/84
                  Wr: 68/77
                  Fb/Te: 68/77
                  Ol: 0/10

                  Dt: 65/78
                  De: 65/78
                  Lb: 49/50
                  Cb: 49/50
                  S: 49/50

                  These auto subs are still kind of wip but all the other settings are more than likely gonna be my final set. I've played 5 very good games on these settings. All the games varied. Some high scoring, some defensive battles. Sometimes my team can run sometimes we struggle to run or pass. I hope you guys give these a shot for a few games and let me know what u think.

                  How can i select all the plays and still watch cpu vs. cpu?

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                  • Kuroth
                    Rookie
                    • May 2011
                    • 25

                    #234
                    Re: DManChi Madden 17 Coach mode sliders

                    Originally posted by page_17_
                    How can i select all the plays and still watch cpu vs. cpu?

                    I think you just dont touch any controls after you call the play and let the CPU take over.. At least that is how I seem to remember past Madden games working..

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                    • XThunderSpinoXX
                      Just started!
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 1

                      #235
                      Re: DManChi Madden 17 Coach mode sliders

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width="16%">PTS</td><td align="right" width="16%">LONG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Brandon McManus </td><td align="right">1/2</td><td align="right">2/2</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">42</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PUNTING</td><td align="right" width="16%">NO</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">IN20</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Riley Dixon</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">297</td><td align="right">49.5</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICK RETURN</td><td align="right" width="16%">RET</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Jordan Norwood</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PUNT RETURN</td><td align="right" width="16%">RET</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Jordan Norwood</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">15</td><td align="right">7.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html> Chris Harris Jr is injured

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                      • novian.cobb
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 105

                        #236
                        Re: DManChi Madden 17 Coach mode sliders

                        Originally posted by page_17_
                        How can i select all the plays and still watch cpu vs. cpu?
                        There is a coach mode slider in game settings. Slide that to on and turn on all the assists and in the games just don't touch anything it will play.

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                        • Danl97
                          Just started!
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 2

                          #237
                          Re: DManChi Madden 17 Coach mode sliders

                          Originally posted by novian.cobb
                          There is a coach mode slider in game settings. Slide that to on and turn on all the assists and in the games just don't touch anything it will play.
                          Where is this exactly? While the game is playing or before you start the game?

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                          • Elway7
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 192

                            #238
                            Re: DManChi Madden 17 Coach mode sliders

                            Originally posted by Danl97
                            Where is this exactly? While the game is playing or before you start the game?
                            On the "main menu", not your franchise menu. It's under "league settings"
                            TECMO

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                            • metaldan1991
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 629

                              #239
                              Re: DManChi Madden 17 Coach mode sliders

                              Are the sliders on the first page the most updated ones since all the patches and tuners?

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                              • metaldan1991
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 629

                                #240
                                Re: DManChi Madden 17 Coach mode sliders

                                I haven't tried these yet but really hoping they work. On every other coach mode slider I can't seem to lose. Went 13-3 with the jags, I didn't like that. Hopefully all madden fixes the terrible gpu on all pro.

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