Madden 09 Dominates US Sales in August

[stewaat]

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Next gen Madden quality has lost my business. I no longer will buy this game until they fix the gameplay.

Chalk me up as one of the sales they didn't earn.

Oh and the commercials are terrible IMO. The one with the dad and daughter made me want to never buy Madden again.

[Ankido]

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Sorry bro, but while you're correct on the "legend" that 2K has become, you are sorely mistaken to think that an NFL 2K10 would outsell Madden.

You actually make my point for me, stating that 2K has become legendary IN THE GAMING COMMUNITY. What you're failing to realize, however, is how small that community is compared to the masses. Spend a day walking the streets and ask random Joe Gamer what the greatest NFL game/franchise is and 2K won't even be a breath on their lips.

Madden is a machine, plain and simple. All of my friends, all of my friends friends, they LOVE Madden... absolutely love it. Don't be fooled into thinking that the opinions on these boards, or any internet boards for that matter, or the majority.

Now, having said all that, and while I really enjoy Madden this year, I would buy an NFL 2K game in a SECOND if it ever happened again.

It probably won't, but it would definitely be nice.

You are sadly mistaken my friend. The reason why Madden Football is so popular because of the man behind the game and that is John Madden. Throw in rap music and famous people hyping and playing the game and you'll have yourself the hottest game on the planet. I don't care if it's stick figures on the field, those elements will make any game popular. Most of the Madden players were young kids who know nothing about the game and only plan on buying to play while most of us here which is only a handful at OS buy to test and give feedback.

I've played Madden since the glory days of Sega and the day NBA2K & NFL2K hit the scene, my jaw dropped to the ground and I have yet to pick it up. It's clear that Sega Sports is the leader in sports gaming and EA took a cheap shot to get them out of the market. Most of the madden sales comes from players who don't care about glitches and bugs. They just play to play. We analyze madden to the fullest and when the obvious is revealed guys like me get slapped with infractions. So this probably my last post before I'm banned but I'd like to thank EA for destroying the video game industry. They will soon realize that competition would have been the best thing for them because then they could counter react with same features to keep the community. A handful of pissed off members @ OS is not going to make madden any better.

[BrianFifaFan]

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You are sadly mistaken my friend. The reason why Madden Football is so popular because of the man behind the game and that is John Madden. Throw in rap music and famous people hyping and playing the game and you'll have yourself the hottest game on the planet. I don't care if it's stick figures on the field, those elements will make any game popular. Most of the Madden players were young kids who know nothing about the game and only plan on buying to play while most of us here which is only a handful at OS buy to test and give feedback.

I've played Madden since the glory days of Sega and the day NBA2K & NFL2K hit the scene, my jaw dropped to the ground and I have yet to pick it up. It's clear that Sega Sports is the leader in sports gaming and EA took a cheap shot to get them out of the market. Most of the madden sales comes from players who don't care about glitches and bugs. They just play to play. We analyze madden to the fullest and when the obvious is revealed guys like me get slapped with infractions. So this probably my last post before I'm banned but I'd like to thank EA for destroying the video game industry. They will soon realize that competition would have been the best thing for them because then they could counter react with same features to keep the community. A handful of pissed off members @ OS is not going to make madden any better.

Chill out. If you like 2k and think it's superior, cool. A lot of people do here. We have a section for that. What you are doing is trolling the Madden forum. You don't buy or like Madden, so move along. Since you want to play the martyr in public, I'll refuse to make you one in public and explain why you get infractions. Maybe others will understand a bit better. Now if you insist in continuing down this road, you'll get yourself in trouble. Thanks, Brian

[Ankido]

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Let's get something out of the clear. There are lot of gamers like myself who spent a crap load of money on sports games not because I'm loaded but because I support all types of sports games that are good to me. I spend about $400 a year on EA games and out of that 400 maybe $240 are for sports. Let us throw in NBA2K and PES that's another $120. I spend around $520 to be exact a year on sports games including EA. Don't tell me I'm a troll. I want to know what my money for EA is used for?

I've mentioned this before and I'll say it again. This is not a knock on OS because you guys do a very good job maintaining these forums and building a good community. You have to also realize that forums like this can ruin a games sales. I'm not trolling here ok, I'm still talking about sales and game sites have a major hand in it. You gave me an infraction for saying that places like OS and sportsgamers can make or break a video game right?

let me be more clear. Next year when the Madden 2010 demo comes out where do you think everyone will read up on reviews gamespot? Everyone knows about these websites with forums and members lashing out at a product that didn't produce. They will read the same stuff we're saying now and decide Madden 2010 is not for them. There go the sales. Please, don't call me a troll. I like most of the die hard sports fans want to see Madden succeed. I look forward to 2010 to see if they live up to the hype again.

[DaImmaculateONe]

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So madden sold about 2.1 million copies of madden at $60 for the ps3 and 360 $50 for the wii and $40 for the ps2. What if they had cut those prices in half? Do you think madden would have sold 5 million if everything 50% off?

[Ankido]

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So madden sold about 2.1 million copies of madden at $60 for the ps3 and 360 $50 for the wii and $40 for the ps2. What if they had cut those prices in half? Do you think madden would have sold 5 million if everything 50% off?

They would probably sell more then 2.1 million but the profit margin would be low. After seeing what happened with 09 I doubt cutting the price by 50% will still get those who want to pass to buy a copy. $30 is still too much for a title that doesn't work.

[ProjectRipCity]

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I have been buying EA games since 2000, and 2k since 2004. I loved Madden 2000-2004...I did not think a sports game could be better. I thought that with NBA Live 2000-2003 as well until 2004 hit and that's when I tried NBA2k and instantly switched to a 2k gamer for the NBA series. Around the same time NFL2k5 came out. I knew about NFL2k5 and thought...It's $20 it must suck...Madden is $60 it must be great. After playing Madden for a few months I then got bored...I decided to find change around the house and bought 2k5. When I put it in I was like eh...Gonna be crappy. My first game was between the Packers and the Vikings...Lets just say by halftime I was thinking how much in-store credit I can get for Madden. The next day I sold Madden, and that's when I decided I would only buy 2k games. When I heard the news that the NFL would only allow Madden to make the game it was a big let down, because NFL2k5 was and IS the best game in history.

What Im trying to say...Im not a 2k "Fanboy" I think that's pointless. But the quality of any compareable game will go to 2K. If 2K was allowed to make NFL games...Not only would Madden struggle...But after 3-5 years...The Madden tradition would break and the 2K tradition would begin...That is how good of a company 2k is. Eventually 2K would have made a NCAA football game and would have been the same story.

What really makes me mad a lot of people complain about 2k not putting out a lot of stuff, but really...Is that a good trend? It's what EA does and how they survive. 2K survives because that smart gamers choose the better game rather than getting the popular game. I used to be guilty...I used to buy games that were popular because in most peoples eyes popular=quality...Which EA is an exception.

[Exonerated]

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lol this thread is funny. Half the peoplethat posted on this thread shoulda taken 10th grade economics.

Madden rules fellas.

The 0.01% of the total market: outraged 2k fanboys and Ea haters won't do anything to effect Madden sales.

Make that 0.0000001%.

I guess you guys should play fantasy football at NFL.com

[DickDalewood]

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You are sadly mistaken my friend. The reason why Madden Football is so popular because of the man behind the game and that is John Madden.

Just like the others, you prove my point while trying to argue yours.

That name isn't going anywhere. It's been around for 20 yrs, despite ANY and ALL competition that has ever attempted to dethrone it. It's the name people buy and will continue to buy. Sorry.

And let's not forget, All Pro Football DID throw in rappers to promote the game... people still bought Madden.

You're clinging so tightly to the hope that Madden fails, that you just can't accept the fact that it has gone far beyond a game at this point. It has become a culture.

Hell, ESPN has done a Madden Nation show for four years now. And, need I remind you, when 2K OWNED THE ESPN LICENSE, what game sponsored NFL Tonight ON ESPN? MADDEN.

Don't ignore what's right in front of your face because you wish you were looking at something else. Facts are facts. And while I too wish this whole situation were different, it's just not gonna happen. Not any time soon anyway, that is for certain.

Case closed.

[ProjectRipCity]

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lol this thread is funny. Half the peoplethat posted on this thread shoulda taken 10th grade economics.

Madden rules fellas.

The 0.01% of the total market: outraged 2k fanboys and Ea haters won't do anything to effect Madden sales.

Make that 0.0000001%.

I guess you guys should play fantasy football at NFL.com

Another sad example of a sucker getting sucked into the Madden hype. No doubt I play and buy Madden once every 3 years to check if they have made progress. I finally bought my copy the other day...I came away not very impressed. Just because the game has numerous flaws does not mean I wont play it...I just wont buy it for another three years. It's kind of hard not to play it because it's like our only source for NFL gaming(Thanks to EA for eliminating superior competition). You are mistaken if you think this game is worthy of next gen gaming though.

[Exonerated]

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I didn't infer anything about the quality of Madden. I'm disappointed with Madden too.

All I'm saying is

Madden is the most popular sports game, always has been and always will be.

2k sports releasing an nfl game won't do **** to madden sales.

Its king of the jungle mate.

[DickDalewood]

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I didn't infer anything about the quality of Madden. I'm disappointed with Madden too.

All I'm saying is

Madden is the most popular sports game, always has been and always will be.

2k sports releasing an nfl game won't do **** to madden sales.

Its king of the jungle mate.

At least a few of you get it...

Or should I say, are willing to admit/accept it?

[GTheorenHobbes]

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At least a few of you get it...

Or should I say, are willing to admit/accept it?

I remember the days when Madden would outsell 2k by something like a 10-1 margin, roughly 5 million units sold compared to 500,000 units sold.

Back then, people said the same thing that you're saying now...that Madden is and forever will be the king, and that there was nothing 2k could do about it.

Funny enough...2k did do something about it. They kept increasing the quality of their game, while decreasing the price so more people would give it a try.

And more people did give it a try...with 2k5 selling well over a million copies.

EA saw that their market share was decreasing, and probably realized that they wouldn't be the market leader in another year or two, at the rate things were going.

Sadly, we all know what happened next.

Hopefully, Backbreaker (or some other competitor) will come along and prove some of you "Madden will forever be king" guys wrong. We'll all win if that happens.

[DickDalewood]

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I remember the days when Madden would outsell 2k by something like a 10-1 margin, roughly 5 million units sold compared to 500,000 units sold.

Back then, people said the same thing that you're saying now...that Madden is and forever will be the king, and that there was nothing 2k could do about it.

Funny enough...2k did do something about it. They kept increasing the quality of their game, while decreasing the price so more people would give it a try.

And more people did give it a try...with 2k5 selling well over a million copies.

EA saw that their market share was decreasing, and probably realized that they wouldn't be the market leader in another year or two, at the rate things were going.

Sadly, we all know what happened next.

Hopefully, Backbreaker (or some other competitor) will come along and prove some of you "Madden will forever be king" guys wrong. We'll all win if that happens.

I think you misunderstand. None of us are saying we DON'T want competition. We're just saying that even when EA HAD competition, they STILL outsold everyone.

Did 2K close the gap? Yes. But even at 19.99 they STILL didn't outsell Madden, even with the arguably better product.

We aren't being pesimistic, and we aren't saying we like the situation.

We're simply being realistic and admitting what is right in front of our faces.

[GTheorenHobbes]

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I think you misunderstand. None of us are saying we DON'T want competition. We're just saying that even when EA HAD competition, they STILL outsold everyone.

Did 2K close the gap? Yes. But even at 19.99 they STILL didn't outsell Madden, even with the arguably better product.

We aren't being pesimistic, and we aren't saying we like the situation.

We're simply being realistic and admitting what is right in front of our faces.

Thanks...I appreciate the clarification. But remember...2k closed the gap from 10:1 to 5:1 over the course of 1 year. It can happen, my friend. Tecmo bowl didn't stay king forever...Nintendo didn't either (although they rose, fell, and now are back on top again). No one stays market leader forever.