Does anyone else think gamespeed should be part of the difficulty setting?

[TDogg09]

Re: Does anyone else think gamespeed should be part of the difficulty setting?

I think it should be a slider

[mightyrx]

Re: Does anyone else think gamespeed should be part of the difficulty setting?

Definitely a separate option.

[sois]

Re: Does anyone else think gamespeed should be part of the difficulty setting?

It's a little bothersome to me that so many oppose this, but nobody says why. Yes, your reflexes get slower as you age. Does this mean you are not playing at an "All Madden" level?

ABSOLUTELY!

Anyone can run through holes if the game is moving slower than normal. Like I said, even I could complete passes in the NFL if I had a 10 seconds to diagnose the routes, see who is open, analyze the pressure in the pocket.

Please, instead of simply posting "No", post why you think this is not part of difficulty.

Just because YOU can't handle the true game speed does not mean that it should not be considered.

For the record, I think it should be part of the sliders, but if you lower the speed to a certain level, you should be demoted a difficulty level as well. No true All Madden player should playing the game at 80% NFL game speed.

[sois]

Re: Does anyone else think gamespeed should be part of the difficulty setting?

How fast the game plays should be up to the individual player, not the developer.

No, how fast the game plays should be determined by the sport you are simulating.

[TheWatcher]

Re: Does anyone else think gamespeed should be part of the difficulty setting?

No, how fast the game plays should be determined by the sport you are simulating.

So you don't think a gamer should have the option to choose what speed the game runs at it, keeping in mind that the other EA Sports franchises have a gamespeed setting?

Why sell ourselves short? More options will only improve things. Having the piddly amount we have at the moment is part of many of the problems with the game right now.

[sois]

Re: Does anyone else think gamespeed should be part of the difficulty setting?

No I didn't say that, you can adjust the rating, but if you slow it down, you are not at All Madden mode. The more you slow it down, the lower the difficulty setting.

[TheWatcher]

Re: Does anyone else think gamespeed should be part of the difficulty setting?

For the record, I think it should be part of the sliders, but if you lower the speed to a certain level, you should be demoted a difficulty level as well. No true All Madden player should playing the game at 80% NFL game speed.

As far as I know, gamespeed sliders in football games have always been independent of the difficulty settings. I don't think having different speeds based on difficulty would simulate anything in real life anyway, because in the NFL there is a common speed and it's always just that. It's not like if you're a rookie you're slower than a 4th year player or a 4th year player is slower than a 8th year player, and so on.

Also, you'd then be tying a speed preference to a difficulty setting so you'd be taking choice away which is already an issue with this franchise. Sometimes I like fast speed, but I don't want to be forced to play on a particular difficulty setting just to get it. What if I prefer fast speed while playing on Pro? What if I like it slower on All-Pro? I'd be handcuffed.

[Stroehms]

Re: Does anyone else think gamespeed should be part of the difficulty setting?

No, how fast the game plays should be determined by the sport you are simulating.

If this was true, Golf would take foreveeeeeerrrrrrrrrrr........

Saying that, I wish play was faster. Maybe actually taking 40 times and comparing them with the Virtual players time from the goal line to the 40 yard line.

[sois]

Re: Does anyone else think gamespeed should be part of the difficulty setting?

What if I prefer fast speed while playing on Pro? What if I like it slower on All-Pro? I'd be handcuffed.

This is the concept I don't understand. If you require the game to move slower, you are not an All Pro player. Not trying to be offensive, but it's like playing in the MLB and telling all pitcher to not throw pitches over 80 MPH.

I know that is a ridiculous comparison, but I think its similar.

[RGiles36]

Re: Does anyone else think gamespeed should be part of the difficulty setting?

at this thread haha

[Focused One]

Re: Does anyone else think gamespeed should be part of the difficulty setting?

I think that game speed should be independent of the difficulty, if anything just for the fun factor... How fun would it be to scope the whole field in slow motion and watch how the AI's defense reacts to your players on all madden and then watch the same thing on rookie???...

Of course, yet again this a feature that 2K5 had that Madden has never had...sigh...

[TheWatcher]

Re: Does anyone else think gamespeed should be part of the difficulty setting?

This is the concept I don't understand. If you require the game to move slower, you are not an All Pro player. Not trying to be offensive, but it's like playing in the MLB and telling all pitcher to not throw pitches over 80 MPH.

I know that is a ridiculous comparison, but I think its similar.

You're saying that speed and difficulty go hand in hand, but I don't think that's the case at all. A person who wants the game to be slower may want that because they don't like the way the animations look at a faster speed, or they don't like that the plays don't really move with a real developing flow, not because it's too difficult. A person who wants it faster may want that because they simply like the speed, not because they want it to be harder, and playing faster doesn't mean it will be harder because of it.

I understand what you're saying, but you have to look at the very negative side of this which is that people will for the 5th year in a row have no customized choice of game speed, and this year they'd be forced into a specific difficulty setting just to get it. In all honesty, that's the kind of concept I'd say the consensus wants Tiburon to get away from... features that force you to do something without having freer choice (lack of CPU sliders, anyone?)... it's just never a good thing especially when so many games in the past didn't do that to us.

The other thing is that a players skill level is not determined by game speed. I used to play 2K5 on slow speed all the time when I played with the broadcast camera. Custom sliders... All I can say is that when I played other people who I'm certain weren't playing regularly on slow speed, it didn't matter... I was still handing out some pretty unmerciful whoop'ins, lol.

[Flamehead]

Re: Does anyone else think gamespeed should be part of the difficulty setting?

You're saying that speed and difficulty go hand in hand, but I don't think that's the case at all. A person who wants the game to be slower may want that because they don't like the way the animations look at a faster speed, or they don't like that the plays don't really move with a real developing flow, not because it's too difficult. A person who wants it faster may want that because they simply like the speed, not because they want it to be harder, and playing faster doesn't mean it will be harder because of it.

I understand what you're saying, but you have to look at the very negative side of this which is that people will for the 5th year in a row have no customized choice of game speed, and this year they'd be forced into a specific difficulty setting just to get it. In all honesty, that's the kind of concept I'd say the consensus wants Tiburon to get away from... features that force you to do something without having freer choice (lack of CPU sliders, anyone?)... it's just never a good thing especially when so many games in the past didn't do that to us.

The other thing is that a players skill level is not determined by game speed. I used to play 2K5 on slow speed all the time when I played with the broadcast camera. Custom sliders... All I can say is that when I played other people who I'm certain weren't playing regularly on slow speed, it didn't matter... I was still handing out some pretty unmerciful whoop'ins, lol.

Agreed. Sois, when you say "it's a little bothersome" for you that so many disagree with you, I think it's because you presume that what you deem as a realistic representation of speed in a videogame representing football is fact, and that speed tied to difficulty should be a given, when not everyone agrees with that either.

What is considered a realistic representation of speed to you may be different to me and vice-versa. Heck, there have been iterations of Madden where a segment of this community thought the speed was too fast, looking more like a "hyped-up videogame" then an attempted representation of NFL football that happens to be a videogame (if that makes sense).

With a slider to adjust speed, everybody wins. You can play on what you believe is the realistic speed, and so can I. Customizable options are NEVER a bad thing.