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  • Glorious Arc
    MVP
    • Sep 2008
    • 1875

    #181
    Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog - Improvements to WR/DB Interaction

    Originally posted by marktg30
    This is why we need procedural awareness.

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    And yes we need players to have to look at their QB but there are times with peyton and marvin where marvin didnt even have to look at peyton because they were that in-tune with each other on the timing....

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    • FootballDetails
      Banned
      • May 2008
      • 1177

      #182
      Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog - Improvements to WR/DB Interaction

      I'm thrilled with the improvements.

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      • Derrville
        Banned
        • Sep 2008
        • 1623

        #183
        Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog - Improvements to WR/DB Interaction

        Originally posted by roadman
        Coming from where Madden was, wouldn't you agree that people can get somewhat excited for 10?
        Of course, im excited! Its just like, people are already like "Where can i pre order?" "Im def buying this!"

        And we havent seen gameplay yet, these additions are nice and all but i'll hold off on he pre ordering till i see gameplay.

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        • dk6663
          Rookie
          • Jul 2002
          • 224

          #184
          Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog - Improvements to WR/DB Interaction

          Hey, I cant see the videos. Where else can i go to see?

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          • Deltron
            Rookie
            • Sep 2003
            • 340

            #185
            Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog - Improvements to WR/DB Interaction

            Ian,

            I hope you guys are aware of how Madden's old defensive assignment feature was slightly broken and/or ineffective. If you assigned a defender to a WR, the defender would simply switch positions in order to stay covering him.

            For example, if you assigned Bailey to Moss, and Moss happened to line up in the slot where a safety would usually be on him, Bailey would simply lineup as a safety (with safety depth) and your safety would be your CB. This negates defensive play calls where you want Bailey to be in a bump-n-run coverage, and it negates other types of coverage as well.

            I would call this another band-aid approach to defensive assignments. If you look at the way 2k implemented this feature, the defender always maintained their coverage assignment while following the player they are matched to. In madden, if you might end up having a cornerback lined up at LB and a LB playing corner.
            Last edited by Deltron; 03-05-2009, 12:04 AM.

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            • Shadymamba
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              • Apr 2005
              • 758

              #186
              man looks real good! thx for the update i love to see guys working hard for the fans! keep it up
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              • NYGmen56
                Banned
                • May 2006
                • 258

                #187
                Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog - Improvements to WR/DB Interaction

                Ian,

                while those videos do look very good, im hoping you guys put some extra animations for WR & DB like hand checks from a CB as he is running downfield with WR, and bumping or positioning battles between WR & CB within the 5 yards of play. 2K sports did a great job on those animations in thier football games which made for great realism.. Keep up the good work..

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                • NYyankz225
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 555

                  #188
                  Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog - Improvements to WR/DB Interaction

                  Originally posted by NYGmen56
                  Ian,

                  while those videos do look very good, im hoping you guys put some extra animations for WR & DB like hand checks from a CB as he is running downfield with WR, and bumping or positioning battles between WR & CB within the 5 yards of play. 2K sports did a great job on those animations in thier football games which made for great realism.. Keep up the good work..
                  You're kidding right? Did u miss the blog?

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                  • frozenblade
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 4

                    #189
                    These new animations are sick! Now if you could add alot more catch animations and some jump ball animations this madden be amazing! since you have this whole momentum thing going maybe you could add some LB/DB with WR/HB interaction where the halfback will slam into a defrender and they both sort of... well deflect away and then they both get their wits back and slam together again.

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                    • LBzrule
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 13085

                      #190
                      Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog - Improvements to WR/DB Interaction

                      Originally posted by Deltron
                      Ian,

                      I hope you guys are aware of how Madden's old defensive assignment feature was slightly broken and/or ineffective. If you assigned a defender to a WR, the defender would simply switch positions in order to stay covering him.

                      For example, if you assigned Bailey to Moss, and Moss happened to line up in the slot where a safety would usually be on him, Bailey would simply lineup as a safety (with safety depth) and your safety would be your CB. This negates defensive play calls where you want Bailey to be in a bump-n-run coverage, and it negates other types of coverage as well.

                      I would call this another band-aid approach to defensive assignments. If you look at the way 2k implemented this feature, the defender always maintained their coverage assignment while following the player they are matched to. In madden, if you might end up having a cornerback lined up at LB and a LB playing corner.
                      This is exactly what I was talking about by not having guys swap positions. I just used different players in my examples. I hated it on the old Madden's for this reason.

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                      • c dizzy m baby
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 371

                        #191
                        Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog - Improvements to WR/DB Interaction

                        Ian this is huge for me, but could you make sure you add the ability to just press one WR instead of your whole defense coming up? I play with the Raiders and they have one good press coverage corner in Nnamdi, but when 09 first came out Deangelo wasn't good at it. With the improvements to the press animations I dont want to have to have my hypothetical Deangelo getting toasted just because I want to press with Nnamdi.

                        Im going to have so much fun with this combined with the defensive assignments since I exclusively play with the Raiders... I could have Nnamdi follow your number 2 WR with a bad release around all day and eliminate him from the game, while I double or triple team your main threat, or I could play him straight up with Nnamdi to focus on other areas of your offense.... It is starting to feel like real football....

                        Also Ian did you say if the double team man coverage was working correctly? The defense never brackets the receiver, they both usually end up getting toasted.

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                        • game designer
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 1

                          #192
                          my maine interest would be sense this is supposed to be more realistic are the wide outs that have the abilty to go and catch the ball at its highest point and the abilty to slow down togather them self to jump? are the the wide out like larry and randy moss gong be able to adjust and slow to make the jump at the end of there route to catch the ball at it highest point?

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                          • MRxAmazing
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 1170

                            #193
                            Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog - Improvements to WR/DB Interaction

                            Originally posted by c dizzy m baby
                            Ian this is huge for me, but could you make sure you add the ability to just press one WR instead of your whole defense coming up? I play with the Raiders and they have one good press coverage corner in Nnamdi, but when 09 first came out Deangelo wasn't good at it. With the improvements to the press animations I dont want to have to have my hypothetical Deangelo getting toasted just because I want to press with Nnamdi.

                            Im going to have so much fun with this combined with the defensive assignments since I exclusively play with the Raiders... I could have Nnamdi follow your number 2 WR with a bad release around all day and eliminate him from the game, while I double or triple team your main threat, or I could play him straight up with Nnamdi to focus on other areas of your offense.... It is starting to feel like real football....

                            Also Ian did you say if the double team man coverage was working correctly? The defense never brackets the receiver, they both usually end up getting toasted.
                            You used to be able to do this is Past-Gen Madden. I loved it.

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                            • kjcheezhead
                              MVP
                              • May 2009
                              • 3118

                              #194
                              Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog - Improvements to WR/DB Interaction

                              This is such a huge issue for me that I would love to see the db/wr animations shown to us in a in game vid like the pass block animations were done. Almost every shot I have seen shows the dbs still getting killed in man coverage.


                              Two wrs running routes in this image and they are both beating their man against Tenn (a pretty solid d). Can I see some shots of good man coverage please?
                              Last edited by kjcheezhead; 05-16-2009, 02:59 PM.

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                              • johnnyg713
                                MVP
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 1465

                                #195
                                Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog - Improvements to WR/DB Interaction

                                this thread brought back some memories... Look at what we were told we were getting last year for wr/db interaction

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