Madden NFL 10 Ratings: Top 10 by Position (ESPN Videogames)

[marcoyk]

How does Larry Fitz have only 89 speed. He made a slant route into like a 40 yard TD run (I'm not sure about the exact distance of the run). 89?! And I don't really get the idea that Andre Johnson is that fast when watching him play. 94? Regardless I can't wait for this game. haha

[Derrville]

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I dont think anything will be changed.

Bradys TP has been like that for a while and despite basically EVERYONE disagreeing with it, it remains the same.

[shotgun styles]

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Cassel was nowhere near as good, especially early. Brady has proved through the years he doesnt need help. Years where Troy Brown(albeit a club legend but declining at the time) and Reche Caldwell etc were his weapons

And he wasn't throwing for 4000 yards and 50 TDs back then either, now was he?

I remember a game where he had FIVE COMPLETIONS and won the game! Those were great TEAMS that Brady just had to keep out of trouble and on schedule. The kicker won all three AFC Championship games and all three Superbowls.

Still Brady has maintained a 60%+ accuracy before the Moss effect. I know part of this is because he is more elusive/mobile then manning.

You are right though. Manning almost has passed twice as much as Brady. I wonder how good Manning would be with Moss...

I'm not saying Brady sucked. Not at all. I'm just saying that he was not asked to do much during those Superbowl years other than manage the game, and didn't start blowing the doors off statistically until Moss arrived.

[Sanchez_Mareno]

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And he wasn't throwing for 4000 yards and 50 TDs back then either, now was he?

I remember a game where he had FIVE COMPLETIONS and won the game! Those were great TEAMS that Brady just had to keep out of trouble and on schedule. The kicker won all three AFC Championship games and all three Superbowls.





I'm not saying Brady sucked. Not at all. I'm just saying that he was not asked to do much during those Superbowl years other than manage the game, and didn't start blowing the doors off statistically until Moss arrived.

He was winning SB's.... thats all

[shotgun styles]

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He was winning SB's.... thats all

His TEAM was winning Superbowls. His KICKER was winning Superbowls. Tom was along for the ride.

[Glorious Arc]

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He was winning SB's.... thats all

SBs mean nothing and they mean everything. Look at Moss highlights then look at Harrison highlights. Notice how often does Moss leave the ground in comparison to Harrison...Harrison did as good as he did because he had hands and could get open and finish. Manning gave him the ball in stride and basicly said hold out your hands and catch the ball. Moss did as good as he has because he is a freak who can catch. Moss didnt need good QBs to perform. He would make the play himself even if the ball wasnt near him.

Harrison

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[nepatriotsfan]

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His TEAM was winning Superbowls. His KICKER was winning Superbowls. Tom was along for the ride.

brady was the one who led them down in order to kick the winnin field goal. which wasnt the case when we beat the eagles maybe you guys should look it up

[droopizzle34]

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Chris Johnson not a top 10 RB? Bo Scaife not a top 10 TE? Keith Bulluck not a defensive player rated 90+? Once again the Titans get no respect with Madden ratings.

[daplayawitdafunk]

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Roddy White is hella overrated. How is he better than Brandon Marshall and TO. I just dont see it.

[JeriousNorwood]

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Just some observations after watching these guys play last year:

Frank Gore's speed rating is too high. He's a great runner, but he couldn't break the big one because people would catch him from behind.

Being an Atlanta fan, Roddy White's catching ratings are extremely overrated. He still drops wide open passes.

[SoxFan01605]

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And he wasn't throwing for 4000 yards and 50 TDs back then either, now was he?

I remember a game where he had FIVE COMPLETIONS and won the game! Those were great TEAMS that Brady just had to keep out of trouble and on schedule. The kicker won all three AFC Championship games and all three Superbowls.




I'm not saying Brady sucked. Not at all. I'm just saying that he was not asked to do much during those Superbowl years other than manage the game, and didn't start blowing the doors off statistically until Moss arrived.

Partially true. I believe year two (his first full year as a starter, he lead the AFC (maybe the NFL in TDs). That's the thing with Brady. I agree he's vastly overrated NOW. BUT, he was vastly underrated then.

Brady was much more than a game manager (that's a label I'd be more inclined to give a guy like Rothlesburger), but I do agree with the notion that the defense and line play were bigger factors in their SB wins than Brady by himself.

EDIT: and as a side note, it always amuses me that every ratings thread seems to break into the great Brady debate...lol. I was just glad to see his ratings drop a bit (even though it was only a little) as he's coming off a big injury.

[TreyIM2]

I really cannot care one way or the other about the ratings - I was just diggin' the new pics. Damn, this game is looking SHWWWEEEETTT!! Damn near photo realistic if not so. Hopefully, the jaggies can be worked out of the PS3 version, this year cuz I KNOW all the pics shown thus far are from the 360.

[edwing]

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Manning is a more accomplished passer. Moss changed everything. Remember, Moss put Culpepper and a post-retirement Cunnigham in the Pro-Bowl. He's a QB maker.

Personally, I think Brady is more of a WR maker than Moss is a QB maker. I mean, if Moss couldn't make the Raiders at least DECENT during his time there, and yet Brady could accomplish so much and make average WRs such as Deion Branch and Reche Caldwell look good, I question the validity of your argument. Look where Moss is now, with Brady, and look where Branch and Caldwell are now. They are nowhere close to the same as when they had Brady around throwing passes to them. Moss, I admit, probably lost all his interest and effort while playing for the Raiders, and having Brady has just rejuvenated his career, but the whole reason why he lost interest with the Raiders in the first place was because of a QB that couldn't bring the best out of him. In my mind though, (Peyton) Manning and Brady are both equals, as they have both shown that they can carry below average WRs when needed.

[Candyman5]

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TO's CIT is too high for all of his drops, Jason Whitten is a tad too slow (78-80 IMO), Brady's THP must be switched with his TAS, Westbrook shouldn't have 99 agility and Polemalu and Patrick Willis have a lower play rec. than they should. Everything else seems ok.

I was one of the only ones in the Rating thread that said he is a 87 overall at best that cant run between the tackles and can get to top speed fast but isn't a high speed runner...

[shotgun styles]

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brady was the one who led them down in order to kick the winnin field goal. which wasnt the case when we beat the eagles maybe you guys should look it up

What, dinking to wide open running backs against prevent defense is "leading"? Really?

Why is it then that in those AFC Championship games (Colts) and Superbowl (Giants) when Brady needed a TD instead of a FG HE COULD NOT DO IT?

Brady= NFL Network hype

Rich Eisen went to Michigan. Know that.