Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

[Sauk]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA press reset? (Joystiq)

This is Ian Cumming's first time being lead designer for Madden NFL and Phil Frazier's first full year as senior producer for Madden NFL. Give these guys a chance. Last year Madden made a big leap from Madden 08 to Madden 09 and this year looks even more promising.

You must have been playing a different madden then me lol

[TheWatcher]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA press reset? (Joystiq)

The fact that they made it a huge point to express "disappointment" for not having a team-play "Madden Online" mode is laughable. Yeah, THAT'S what's been holding Madden back from greatness all these years ... a mode that's going to take hell and high water to get everyone situated in one place at the same time to play out fully.

This is but one reason why I don't take the mags seriously. Ever since they all praised Madden 08--one of the crappiest football games ever made--I was done.

[MattIntellect]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA press reset? (Joystiq)

You must have been playing a different madden then me lol

You can't tell me that Madden 09 played like Madden 08. You can't.

[Moegames]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA press reset? (Joystiq)

im sorta just baffled by some of the replies here... last fall 75% of the posters in here were bashing madden 09 for its bugs and flaws and lack of advancement each year..and rightfully so, i was pretty pissed myself after noticing that bug filled piece of *&$^&*

But as someone else replied in here and said..some of you guys suddenly seem to have short patients for any negativity towards the series.. why? ..thats silly and dont be hypocrites

Personally... Madden needs this kind of criticism because if there weren't any...things would keep going the way there were. I have a good feeling Madden 2010 will be THAT GAME we been waiting for and i feel part of this is because of us in here nagging and harping to the dev's in here that post and read our input...

You know, in college.. my professor once told me that the weakest link in any business or company are the people that get all pissy when a customer complains about their lackluster product..i just hope that there arent any of this BS attitude in the developers at Tiburon....because that **** spreads like cancer and before you know it..the entire team will be affected by such crap attitudes...

Im VERY happy that Ian is lead developer now..i just feel he has that vision we been needing in Madden and from the looks of it..Madden is making its biggest leap forward in positive ways in a VERY long time...

Constructive Criticism is healthy for a product, unhappy customers "can" be healthy for a product..just as long as the people behind the product dont let their feathers get all ruffled up because people are unhappy with their lackluster product...its what you do from that point on that counts...

I look at Madden 2010 as a "new" beginning and i have high hopes for it this year regardless of the last 4 crap maddens...

By the way..the article on madden was spot on

[kjcheezhead]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA press reset? (Joystiq)

You can't tell me that Madden 09 played like Madden 08. You can't.

I would agree with him. On PS 3, Madden 08 is about a 1.5 while Madden 09 is about a 2.0. This team needs to get all the features and realistic play that the PS2 had before anything else. If they do that and this protak works out, then Madden 10 could still be an 8 or higher, but we just dont know yet.

[TreyIM2]

New in-game Madden footage - http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/14270630/madden-nfl-2010/videos/madden10_trl_eaglescowboys552709.html

[roadman]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA press reset? (Joystiq)

Nothing in this article surprises me.

Glad I don't put any stock on critics making decisions on my purchases.

[countryboy]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA press reset? (Joystiq)

another article and another one man's opinion.

[TreyIM2]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/987/987698p1.html

[marcoyk]

that article doesn't mean much to me. thanks for that link!! the game is looking gooooood!!

[TheCreep]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA press reset? (Joystiq)

You must have been playing a different madden then me lol

I must have been, because Madden 09 is the business.

[Bgamer90]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA press reset? (Joystiq)

im sorta just baffled by some of the replies here... last fall 75% of the posters in here were bashing madden 09 for its bugs and flaws and lack of advancement each year..and rightfully so, i was pretty pissed myself after noticing that bug filled piece of *&$^&*

But as someone else replied in here and said..some of you guys suddenly seem to have short patients for any negativity towards the series.. why? ..thats silly and dont be hypocrites

Personally... Madden needs this kind of criticism because if there weren't any...things would keep going the way there were. I have a good feeling Madden 2010 will be THAT GAME we been waiting for and i feel part of this is because of us in here nagging and harping to the dev's in here that post and read our input...

You know, in college.. my professor once told me that the weakest link in any business or company are the people that get all pissy when a customer complains about their lackluster product..i just hope that there arent any of this BS attitude in the developers at Tiburon....because that **** spreads like cancer and before you know it..the entire team will be affected by such crap attitudes...

Im VERY happy that Ian is lead developer now..i just feel he has that vision we been needing in Madden and from the looks of it..Madden is making its biggest leap forward in positive ways in a VERY long time...

Constructive Criticism is healthy for a product, unhappy customers "can" be healthy for a product..just as long as the people behind the product dont let their feathers get all ruffled up because people are unhappy with their lackluster product...its what you do from that point on that counts...

I look at Madden 2010 as a "new" beginning and i have high hopes for it this year regardless of the last 4 crap maddens...

By the way..the article on madden was spot on

Okay here's the thing. I'm expecting an article about madden 10. You know I'm all good with constructive feedback, but honestly, nothing in the article (or the previous one) talked about madden 10. It talked about the madden series as it has been this gen. That in itself, IMO, is a waste. We all know the features that have been added, etc. Like really, I don't get how anyone could say that those were good articles and that Joystiq did a good job when they had to correct the things that they said about the game.

I'm all for constructive feedback and there has been that in just about each and every preview of the game. It's just that what I don't like is how are you going to supposedly give a preview of Madden 10 but just completley disregard the game, get facts about the features wrong, and then talk about why you aren't interested in madden and why the EA/NFL monopoly is bad.

Like that isn't a preview of the game in any way really.

I know I'm being defensive but I just don't like it when people call others "negativity haters" for not liking an article when the article doesn't really talk anything about the game and even gets some things wrong about the game. How in the world does that make for a good article?

and if you played 07 and then played 09, you wouldn't really notice anything that different.

Even if they weren't that great, there was still a difference between them (at least imo).

Most of you just seem angry that it isn't another jock riding preview piece on how great EA and Ian are. Ian has been great for the Madden community and his level of interaction with the community is unmatched, but he has yet to make a decent game of Madden. Only 8 people on here have played Madden 10, yet you all already appoint him the chosen one and this the best Madden ever.

I've been fooled by marketing, glowing previews, and reviews time and time again. I'm glad Joystiq took a different approach to previewing the game.

lol and here's another thing...

for the ones saying how "great" the article is, why do you guys feel that all the other previews of the game "brown nosed" EA/Ian?
Like are you guys looking for that one article to back your ideas that madden 10 will truly be no different from the past ones or are you being really serious because really, each and every preview has said something wrong with the game in some way(s).

So a preview that has false information about the game, talks about none of the writer's impressions of the game, and focuses more on how madden has been in the past instead of how the game will be is a different approach to previewing a game?

So not doing something you were sent out to do is a different approach to what you were suppose to do?

[Child Rebel]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA press reset? (Joystiq)

Great, objective, realistic review. Anyone saying otherwise is exactly what they're accusing the author of this article of being. Biased. All he's done is put into an article what we've been saying for years and you're offended?

[droopizzle34]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA press reset? (Joystiq)

isn't Madden 10 the first time Ian has been Lead Designer?

[ewto16]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

This is Ian Cumming's first time being lead designer for Madden NFL and Phil Frazier's first full year as senior producer for Madden NFL. Give these guys a chance. Last year Madden made a big leap from Madden 08 to Madden 09 and this year looks even more promising.

Both have worked on Madden in the past. I'm pretty sure Phil was the lead guy last year, but they have both been on the team before. I don't put a lot of stock in titles and look at the work as a whole team accomplishment. Maybe a lot of what they wanted to do and their ideas got shot down in the past....who knows.

for the ones saying how "great" the article is, why do you guys feel that all the other previews of the game "brown nosed" EA/Ian?
Like are you guys looking for that one article to back your ideas that madden 10 will truly be no different from the past ones or are you being really serious because really, each and every preview has said something wrong with the game in some way(s).

So a preview that has false information about the game, talks about none of the writer's impressions of the game, and focuses more on how madden has been in the past instead of how the game will be is a different approach to previewing a game?

So not doing something you were sent out to do is a different approach to what you were suppose to do?

All the other preview articles bacislly read the same and could be written by an EA PR person. They talk about how awesome Pro-tak is, what it brings to the game, and how it will forever change Madden.

This article took a different stance and indicated how they were disappointed with what they saw from Madden so far and how they haven't seen any innovation in Madden in the last 3-4 years. I liked the refreshing viewpoint.