Man Coverage In '10

[Exonerated]

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hold up. first off he does give up touchdowns, just ask Eddie royal when he had 3 on Nsagnuma last yr.

Second he didnt have 3 on Nsagnuma. what am i thinking your right. this needs to be fixed. lol

Asomugha gave up 9 completions and 0 Touchdowns in 2008 playing all 16 games.

And Tony Gonzalez (98 overall) had 3 of them.

That is the definition of shutdown.

[carnalnirvana]

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THE SCARY THING is that animation were the defender plays the ball and deliver a hit in the same animation is still in the game....

look at the ign vid of phil showing the cpu vs cpu game steelers vs cards its in there at 4:11 the Db spidey bats it down then punishes the Wr....

adembroski, you are a loyal patient dude(to EA), and i would never disrespect you because i respect your opinion on OS but cmon cmon.

even if they ported madden 09 from ps2 its would kinda be better.....

the devs worked hard on this game and that should be commended, i applaud that but the vision is blurry.

this is probably my last serious post about madden now its just a game for me, and i have accepted that.......ITS JUST A GAME. ( by this i mean no more 12am trips to GS to pick it up, no more hunting sliders, no more editing ratings its gonna be like MARIO KART just play it sunday 2 hrs before a game comes on....).

The man coverage should be helped alot bythe return of cpu sliders IMO and also the lower ratings may not have the average Wr dominating LETS HOPE........

[DirtyBird]

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THE SCARY THING is that animation were the defender plays the ball and deliver a hit in the same animation is still in the game....

look at the ign vid of phil showing the cpu vs cpu game steelers vs cards its in there at 4:11 the Db spidey bats it down then punishes the Wr....

adembroski, you are a loyal patient dude(to EA), and i would never disrespect you because i respect your opinion on OS but cmon cmon.

even if they ported madden 09 from ps2 its would kinda be better.....

the devs worked hard on this game and that should be commended, i applaud that but the vision is blurry.

this is probably my last serious post about madden now its just a game for me, and i have accepted that.......ITS JUST A GAME. ( by this i mean no more 12am trips to GS to pick it up, no more hunting sliders, no more editing ratings its gonna be like MARIO KART just play it sunday 2 hrs before a game comes on....).

The man coverage should be helped alot bythe return of cpu sliders IMO and also the lower ratings may not have the average Wr dominating LETS HOPE........

Well one thing is, the vision was blurry because of the camera's the game isnt really like that.

[gr18]

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I think Chase said that when he played on All-pro he was seeing a pretty consistent pass rush.I'm just hoping the DE's are effective and you don't see it as much from the DT's.If it's the Colts you expect Freeney and Mathis to be the ones bringing it.

Even though man coverage should be better than that on Pro I wouldn't get too upset until we see it on All-pro.It seems that there might be a bigger difference than before.

[marginwalker]

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hold up. first off he does give up touchdowns, just ask Eddie royal when he had 3 on Nsagnuma last yr.

Second he didnt have 3 on Nsagnuma. what am i thinking your right. this needs to be fixed. lol

Nah man that was DeAngelo Hall covering Royal that whole game.

[SmokeCapone]

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DIdi anyone notice in the Eagles v Cowgirls 6 video that i think it was philly that ran a dime corner blitz and it was picked up by the guards and tackle. 1 on each side at that it was almost instantaneous how they picked up that blitz coming in.

[iBlievN5]

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from some of the vids i've seen, whenever you blitz and there arent enough blockers, they're coming through, maybe this is to balance it for the casual player.

hopefully, in '11 there'll be a mode akin to the "Hardcore" mode in Call of Duty 4. Meaning its more true to life with: smaller pocket, 4-5 sec maximum pocket time, more realistic coverage, and momentum being an important part of the game.

[kjcheezhead]

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They have. Unfortunately, last gen. We've gotta acknowledge, at some point, the amount of ground this team has to make up after the miscues of the last. We know it's going in the right direction, but it can't all get done at once.

This is always the answer. In 07 and 08 it was because they had to start over. Now it's still not in and everyone says can't get it done all at once. They've had 08,09 and now 10 to get this in but it is continually ignored.

Why is that? Because you can't sell games by saying "Hey guys, check out our new game, it's got these great features we've had in the game for years on ps2." So instead it gets pushed aside over and over again while they put in all the new features like Backtrack, Rewind, Fumble Pile and Protak. Next year it will be the next great feature and the old features we loved will be forgotten once again.

[adembroski]

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This is always the answer. In 07 and 08 it was because they had to start over. Now it's still not in and everyone says can't get it done all at once. They've had 08,09 and now 10 to get this in but it is continually ignored.

Why is that? Because you can't sell games by saying "Hey guys, check out our new game, it's got these great features we've had in the game for years on ps2." So instead it gets pushed aside over and over again while they put in all the new features like Backtrack, Rewind, Fumble Pile and Protak. Next year it will be the next great feature and the old features we loved will be forgotten once again.

Backtrack and rewind, agreed... Pro Tak is very much a substantial addition that you wont know how much it was necessary until you've experienced it.

I'd be willing to bet it'll get back in next year. They brought back individual defensive assignments this year, that's one step back in the right direction.

[SmokeCapone]

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I'd be willing to bet it'll get back in next year. They brought back individual defensive assignments this year, that's one step back in the right direction.

Thats the thing ADEM, its like this every year with EA "WAIT TIL NEXT YEAR" and we do that and still end up short in some features that should have just been added to the game and just leave GFX alone (there fine by me)

Maybe im not just grasping the dev process but from the outside looking in, it seems to me tht they should just keep developing on what they have out of 10 as if they never went gold.

With this gen being almost over one cant trip over the GFX of the game and just wait to see if they can hit there target render from this gen in the next one.

But as long as the fundamental of the NFL are there then I will have to deal with it. But I just want assurance that known glitches in the game that these idiots online take advantage of far gone.

I would like to know if the RC is gone along with the scramble egg QBs. I dont like the fact a QB in madden can have his back turned and still playmaker a WR while running for dear life and not looking at the player they're playmakering.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[kjcheezhead]

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I'd be willing to bet it'll get back in next year. They brought back individual defensive assignments this year, that's one step back in the right direction.

Thats the thing ADEM, its like this every year with EA "WAIT TIL NEXT YEAR" and we do that and still end up short in some features that should have just been added to the game and just leave GFX alone (there fine by me)

I would absolutely love for this to happen but I just don't see it. I read these threads about colored cleats and what not and I think EA feels they have to blow those things out the box to keep sales going. You can read it in the game reviews too. Every site always starts by asking EA with a sigh "Alright, what "great" thing is it this year that makes this game different from a roster update."

It puts so much pressure on EA to find something new and refreshing that they are forced to sacrifice the old stuff the didn't make the transition.

[adembroski]

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I'd be willing to bet it'll get back in next year. They brought back individual defensive assignments this year, that's one step back in the right direction.

Thats the thing ADEM, its like this every year with EA "WAIT TIL NEXT YEAR" and we do that and still end up short in some features that should have just been added to the game and just leave GFX alone (there fine by me)

I agree... I was actually disappointed when Ian said the graphics had received a boost. But what I was not considering is that a guy like Michael Young isn't qualified to put in something like defensive hot routes. He's an art guy. Not upgrading the graphics wouldn't mean more would get in otherwise, it just means Michael Young would be sitting in his office twiddling his thumbs.

Maybe im not just grasping the dev process but from the outside looking in, it seems to me tht they should just keep developing on what they have out of 10 as if they never went gold.

I don't understand this part of the process, so I really can't comment. I know they didn't have a playable 10 until January or something, but maybe that's because Pro-Tak broke it. I couldn't say. So much new was added, I think they had to scrap a lot of what was in 09.

With this gen being almost over one cant trip over the GFX of the game and just wait to see if they can hit there target render from this gen in the next one.

But as long as the fundamental of the NFL are there then I will have to deal with it. But I just want assurance that known glitches in the game that these idiots online take advantage of far gone.

I would like to know if the RC is gone along with the scramble egg QBs. I dont like the fact a QB in madden can have his back turned and still playmaker a WR while running for dear life and not looking at the player they're playmakering.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Actually, playmaker is out. Right stick is QB Avoidance. I'm not 100% willing to say RC is out because I never was very good at it... I was able to do it now and then on 09, wasn't able to do it at all in 10.

[adembroski]

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I would absolutely love for this to happen but I just don't see it. I read these threads about colored cleats and what not and I think EA feels they have to blow those things out the box to keep sales going. You can read it in the game reviews too. Every site always starts by asking EA with a sigh "Alright, what "great" thing is it this year that makes this game different from a roster update."

It puts so much pressure on EA to find something new and refreshing that they are forced to sacrifice the old stuff the didn't make the transition.

Once again, that's art. You have your art guys, your online guys, your gameplay guys, your franchise guys. Some of these are mix and matchable, some are not. For the most part, engineers can't do art and art guys can't engineer. Most designers have rudimentary understanding of code, but they work within tools that clean it up a bit, while engineers do the heavy lifting in that respect.

So having one guy working on colored cleats (and, like it or not, it was a massive demand from the community... I couldn't care less, but there are people who couldn't care less about offline franchise too) does not take away from another guy working on defensive hot routes.

A lot of what has changed it will take a very in depth look to see. The blocking logic is heavily improved (as in 09 it was virtually non-existent, there was no rhyme or reason to blocking, now it's a fair replication of BOB protection). I can't imagine that was easy to code, and it's something that requires heavy tuning. Something like that probably prevents them from adding 2 or 3 other, smaller things.

[jWILL253]

You know, I'm reading this forum, and I am seeing a lot of dissapointment. Man coverage, from what I'm hearing, is a joke in 10. I don't know what went wrong in the transition from last-gen to next-gen, but most of us want nostalgia. We want individual DB receiver-bumping, right-stick defensive Playmaker, etc. But, we're just not getting any of that...

[SmokeCapone]

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I dont know what it is but 09 is making me sick to my stomache as far as online play goes. I just dont get why people still cheat more than ever when a new madden is upon us. I get tired of the position swapping of WRs, one minute there in the slot next minute there flankers and everyone just thrwos the so deep that the ball is in the air a whole lot longer than its really supposed to be and thses guys just run right under it leaving all defenders behind.

Im glad ADEM said it was fixed to his knowledge, but i just get tired of these players who get rewarded for using 1 defensive plays all gm long no matter the offensive set.

I want just a few key things adjusted before I decide again on getting madden 10 or not.

Does a quarter defense still stop the run game in madden 10?

If that **** still persist after all this time, then its time for someone else to step in and take over football gaming period.

And that 1-5-5 defense shuts down everything it seems and I started to notice that its everyones go to defense when all else fails and it works 7-10 times, and maybe that because the blocking mechanice are so weak in 09 and from those maddn 10 vids I am hoping we can get rid of these cheater cheesers for good.