Madden NFL 10 Videos: Ravens (CPU) vs. Titans (Ian) Full Gameplay in HD

[drae2]

Re: Ravens (CPU) vs. Titans (Ian) full gameplay in HD

Okay, my 2 cents. It doesn't make sense for me to talk about all the things that bothered me, because most of them have been said throughout this thread. I can't remember which vid it was, but Flacco from drop to throw on one play had 8 seconds real time. That's bothersome considering they are playing the Titans. And both teams are breaking off long runs too often. Remember, these are 2 of the best defenses in the league. If those 2 things are taken care of, I can deal with the rest.

[LAKE4742]

Re: Ravens (CPU) vs. Titans (Ian) full gameplay in HD

This game was played on "Slow" game speed.

Anything you liked?

Are you serious, Ian? I reeeeally hope so. If you are, can we get a vid with "Fast" game speed?

[Maximus205]

Re: Ravens (CPU) vs. Titans (Ian) full gameplay in HD

Yeah, Backbreaker is coming out....

with new videos showing the same tackling animations.

Not

Dude...Backbreaker is going to be awful. The first year of a brand new engine and new football franchise...It's going to be so riddled with bugs and flaws that it'll be almost unplayable.

Ian aka Tony Romo has done a great job in one year. I have my issues with certain things but it's certainly a great improvement and I'm looking forward to playing it.

Didnt know Cleo the Psychic got of of jail to join OS,go in a madden forum and bash Backbreaker.

[skudplayr]

Re: Ravens (CPU) vs. Titans (Ian) full gameplay in HD

and? that is exactly my point, season stats don't carry over into the playoffs.

It would be nice if, in the future, they made comments like..."What a touchdown run by Chris Johnson, he is a budding star who rushed for over 1,200 yards this season and it's continuing into the playoffs."

Or something like that...but like I said, that's aimed towards Madden 11 and onwards.

[hollywood21]

Re: Ravens (CPU) vs. Titans (Ian) full gameplay in HD

Is this a earlier build or is this a later build of E3.

[skudplayr]

Re: Ravens (CPU) vs. Titans (Ian) full gameplay in HD

Not

Didnt know Cleo the Psychic got of of jail to join OS,go in a madden forum and bash Backbreaker.

Better than someone coming onto a Madden forum and propping up backbreaker and dissing Madden, the game that the forum is dedicated to.

You really think Backbreaker, a game that few people know much about, is going to be anything close to as good as Madden?

[NoLittleBabies]

Re: Ravens (CPU) vs. Titans (Ian) full gameplay in HD

On your first TD run with Johnson, that's that CD bug. The SS Nakamura he just slides inside for no reason and then waits to get scooped up by the blocker. They are leaving the outsides open. If the game ships like that this is going to be a huge problem. There is alot more but I don't want to get into it here.

There was a fake FB dive on that play. I think the safety was biting on that. I mean, the safety probably shouldn't be biting on a FB dive but I'm just saying... I think that was the reason he got sucked inside, not a bug.

[-DaVe-]

Re: Ravens (CPU) vs. Titans (Ian) full gameplay in HD

It's a video game. I know people say it all the time but dude. There is nothing that can be done about it right now and you continually remarking about it won't change anything. Maybe it'll change in Madden 11 but for now, what you see is what you get. If it's a game breaker for you then that's a shame because most of us have seen flaws that we dislike but we're willing to ignore them because we love VG football.

It's a game breaker for me . It's inexcusable for EA to have these running animations when there's so many references available. This is something that is hard to ignore since you'll see it almost every play.

[Tyrant8RDFL]

Re: Ravens (CPU) vs. Titans (Ian) full gameplay in HD

I guess the running animations that we see on these videos are the same ones we're going to see on Aug 14? Hmmm I think i'll pass on this game. That aspect of the game just sticks out like a sore thumb. Sorry, I try to look past it but can't. Don't get me wrong , Madden has made some strides but the running animations are just awful. Plain and simple.
Seeing Chris Johnson run like that almost made me fling my monitor through the wall.
It's not real seeing a runningback run through the defense with his back perfectly straight . On top of that , he's running with these slow / long strides.

Atleast backbreaker is coming out.

The animations are really bothering me also. It doesn't look good.This is why the game is a rental for me, and then from there I will decide.

You are SERIOUSLY my new best friend. Thank you.

I laughed at that as well. Good stuff.

So I busted out the stopwatch because after the first half, it seemed as if the QBs had wayyyyyyyyy too much time to throw. I wanted to find out what the average time was from snap to throw for all the passes in the second half.

The results of my little test are rather interesting. First, the overall combined stats for Collins/Flacco:

12-28-4INTs-1TD..called back for holding.

The pass plays: time to release/result

3.0/inc
2.4/int

3.1/Comp...holding penalty
1.4/Screen complete CJ
3.3/Inc

2.8/Comp Heap
2.9/Inc.

2.4/Inc.
1.8/Screen complete CJ

3.2/Int. (Harper)
2.7/Inc.

3.0/Int. (Reed)

4.7/Inc.

4.0/Comp Scaife

2.4/inc
1.8/McLain
1.9/Mason
3.3/inc
3.0/Mason
2.9/inc.
2.6/Williams
2.3/Peerman
2.1/Williams
5.1/Inc.
2.6/Inc.
3.5/TD....holding
2.8/inc.
2.0/INT.

This averages out to less than 3 seconds from snap to throw. Additionally, quite a few of the passes were thrown under pressure. The pressure also caused a fair amount of incomplete passes.

I know the blocking and line play does not appear to be perfect, but based on the results it seems that it may be less of a problem that a lot of people think.

This is a great brakedown, but I do question it. From what I saw on the videos there wasn't really any pressure on the QB prior to him throwing the ball. The game seems to reward those for sitting in the pocket , which is cool but it seems way to long.

Its really hard to argue something when a large amount of the community is speaking of the same concerns. I know this was a ton of work for you, but if you dont mind. Do another breakdown on how many pass attempts are in the game and how many involved pressure on the QB. I guess also the time it took.

I think the real problem is the amount of animations that are involved in the line play. It looks very simple and vanilla. You dont see any real upfield rush. Anyway Ian is aware of it, and by Aug 14th it should be improved. The line play not animations.

[CapnKill]

Re: Ravens (CPU) vs. Titans (Ian) full gameplay in HD

All-Madden will 100% be competitive. I wouldn't say I'm good at the game but I'm no slouch, and I get worked pretty handily when I play all-madden. I don't think you'll have problems if you want to find a challenging experience...just my opinion.

Ian, I would love to see even 1 qtr of the game played on All Madden. 90% of the Leauges I've ever played in or heard of use the All Madden difficulty.

serious dud , show some respect...the guy just spent hours of his own time to show us the improvements to the game, and that is your response.

hey ian, what for what its worth, you get my pat on the back.

this forum cracks me up .............. the game looks ten times better than 09 and the guy deserves his props for it

I didn't realize I disrespected him. I think its interesting that so many people are convinced that this game will rock without even playing it.

I don't know about you but I don't sit there and make a list of the stuff I like, I just make a list of the stuff I don't like. I don't feel I need to comment on the stuff I liked, because... well.. I like them, so whats there to say? There's plenty of time after the game is released to dance around and celebrate the good stuff, I feel that this is the last chance we have to fix some of the bad stuff.

Maybe we should make a thread that says "All the stuff you like about M10 before you've even played it".

[Maximus205]

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Better than someone coming onto a Madden forum and propping up backbreaker and dissing Madden, the game that the forum is dedicated to.

You really think Backbreaker, a game that few people know much about, is going to be anything close to as good as Madden?

Do your research. Here i'll help the helpless.

http://forum.backbreakergame.com/showthread.php?p=103167#post103167

[Ian_Cummings]

Re: Ravens (CPU) vs. Titans (Ian) full gameplay in HD

On your first TD run with Johnson, that's that CD bug. The SS Nakamura he just slides inside for no reason and then waits to get scooped up by the blocker. They are leaving the outsides open. If the game ships like that this is going to be a huge problem.

Did it happen every time though? Could this be chalked up to one mistake or one assignment? I am not seeing an easy gain of yardage when I run outside because the SS takes one step inside...at least not often...

[Cusefan]

Re: Ravens (CPU) vs. Titans (Ian) full gameplay in HD

If you guys focus on the negatives, your going to hate Madden. Personally I see a much improved football game and I miss alot of the bad stuff. I can already tell that Im am going to love madden this year, flaws and all.

[skudplayr]

Re: Ravens (CPU) vs. Titans (Ian) full gameplay in HD

It's a game breaker for me . It's inexcusable for EA to have these running animations when there's so many references available. This is something that is hard to ignore since you'll see it almost every play.

Well, that's a shame. I hope Backbreaker is a good game so there is some competition. I'm just not confident it is. I think my faith in VG developers has been really crushed with the move to Nex-Gen systems. I go out and buy games like Madden 08, 09, and MLB 2K8 and they looks pretty but play like a 3 year old made it.

I hope this game can break the streak.

[adembroski]

Re: Ravens (CPU) vs. Titans (Ian) full gameplay in HD

so, all-pro is completely useless?

I don't know how you get that from what I said. There are isolated issues that exist at all difficulty levels. The guy wanted to know if All Madden was competitive, and it friggin' destroyed me. I lost games at All-Pro too. The point is that linebackers shouldn't run away from the line when they see run, and defensive linemen need to be a presence.