Madden NFL 10 Franchise Mode Improvements: Part 2 Q&A

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  • Canadeion
    Banned
    • Sep 2008
    • 355

    #166
    Re: NEW FRANCHISE BLOG

    Since EA has well over $3,000 of my money from the past 18 years, I think I'm allowed to complain when they ask for our input and our questions, then don't answer them.

    It's called customer appreciation. In my opinion, it's been a long time coming that EA actually starts bringing the customers into the process. Everyone who says we are 'lucky they even talk to us' needs a reality check. Nobody from EA will EVER say that we're lucky they talk to us, or that we have no right to complain. Because they know damn well that we do have the right to complain, as paying customers.

    EA is not a charity... they charge us money. It is a company. And any company that charges customers for a product or service must be open to consumer feedback if they want to remain successful. And that is probably the reason they have opened the doors to us this year, because they knew that their bread and butter franchise (Madden) was turning into garbage, and in order to keep people paying money for it, they'd have to be more open to us. And it is working, but with that comes a responsibility for them to satisfy our questions and concerns, otherwise it defeats the purpose of having an open door policy with their customers.

    I do appreciate the efforts they are making, but they aren't doing it for US, they are doing it for THEM... it's to try and save a dying franchise, and anyone who thinks differently is intellectually dishonest.

    Ian and the crew seem like they have good intentions, and I'm happy about that... but if they are going to do it, they have to do it right... and answering bare bones, crap questions isn't doing anyone any favors. They are trying to MARKET and SELL a game, that they claim is SOOOO much better, but they have yet to really prove anything...

    And EA customers need to stop acting like EA is doing us a FAVOR by fixing a problematic game that we all PAID for last year.... and the year before.... and the year before that.... and before that.... and the years before that.


    Also, I have been with my cable company for 2 years... they gave me a free PVR.

    I have been with EA for almost 20 years. They have given me.... uhhh..... nothing that I haven't paid for.

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    • rickywal
      Banned
      • Sep 2008
      • 199

      #167
      Re: NEW FRANCHISE BLOG

      Originally posted by turfguy23
      I’ll repeat my favorite analogy for those of you who haven’t heard it before: If you found out you had termites in your house, would you build on another addition or clean up the foundation so that you could build on the house in the future?
      Then why on earth did they create an online franchise when they still needed to get offline fixed. Or are they 2 different houses and they thought building a second house using some of the termite infested foundation...

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      • rickywal
        Banned
        • Sep 2008
        • 199

        #168
        Re: NEW FRANCHISE BLOG

        Originally posted by jeetaa6
        Is this the only offline franchise blog?

        haven't seen anything about actual CPU to CPU trades and CPU to User trade offers. anyone else seen anything on this??
        I haven't seen anything on this, but I am assuming it hasn't been added. They came in halfway through the dev cycle and it looks like they have just cleaned up whats already there, so that online franchise could work.

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        • 18manning18
          Rookie
          • Sep 2005
          • 135

          #169
          Re: NEW FRANCHISE BLOG

          Yea but theres a difference between complaining and giving constructive criticism as to what they should change or do differently. I don't have a problem with the latter whatsoever. Saying something is broken is cool, how about saying what they should change instead.

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          • gr18
            MVP
            • Sep 2007
            • 2286

            #170
            Re: NEW FRANCHISE BLOG

            I've never seen another game where people wrestle with themselves whether to give up the $60.I'm sure many of these people are much more wasteful with their money in other ways in life or with other videogames.

            More than likely you'll get much more playing time with Madden '10 then you will with most action games that you'll beat in 20 hrs. or less.

            That being said,I certainly understand not wanting to give EA money again for an inferior product.I bought '06 for the PS2 at Christmas time for $20 then didn't buy '07-played 2k5,bought '08 after I got a 360-went back to 2k5,didn't buy '09-still played 2k5.

            So I'm far from a Madden fanboy and much closer to a 2k fanboy but am impressed enough by the dev crew and don't understand how you couldn't be.Not everythings perfect but c'mon now lets be realistic.It's the biggest yearly turn-around I've seen.We haven't played it yet so nobody can have 100% certainty.

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            • Canadeion
              Banned
              • Sep 2008
              • 355

              #171
              Re: NEW FRANCHISE BLOG

              Originally posted by gr18
              I've never seen another game where people wrestle with themselves whether to give up the $60.I'm sure many of these people are much more wasteful with their money in other ways in life or with other videogames.

              More than likely you'll get much more playing time with Madden '10 then you will with most action games that you'll beat in 20 hrs. or less.

              That being said,I certainly understand not wanting to give EA money again for an inferior product.I bought '06 for the PS2 at Christmas time for $20 then didn't buy '07-played 2k5,bought '08 after I got a 360-went back to 2k5,didn't buy '09-still played 2k5.

              So I'm far from a Madden fanboy and much closer to a 2k fanboy but am impressed enough by the dev crew and don't understand how you couldn't be.Not everythings perfect but c'mon now lets be realistic.It's the biggest yearly turn-around I've seen.We haven't played it yet so nobody can have 100% certainty.
              Exactly, I'm not going to complain about the game play until I've actually played it, but that doesn't mean I can't be mad that they wasted 5 minutes of my life with that sad excuse for a blog.

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              • big_larry
                Banned
                • Apr 2009
                • 573

                #172
                Re: NEW FRANCHISE BLOG

                Originally posted by Canadeion
                Since EA has well over $3,000 of my money from the past 18 years, I think I'm allowed to complain when they ask for our input and our questions, then don't answer them.

                It's called customer appreciation. In my opinion, it's been a long time coming that EA actually starts bringing the customers into the process. Everyone who says we are 'lucky they even talk to us' needs a reality check. Nobody from EA will EVER say that we're lucky they talk to us, or that we have no right to complain. Because they know damn well that we do have the right to complain, as paying customers.

                EA is not a charity... they charge us money. It is a company. And any company that charges customers for a product or service must be open to consumer feedback if they want to remain successful. And that is probably the reason they have opened the doors to us this year, because they knew that their bread and butter franchise (Madden) was turning into garbage, and in order to keep people paying money for it, they'd have to be more open to us. And it is working, but with that comes a responsibility for them to satisfy our questions and concerns, otherwise it defeats the purpose of having an open door policy with their customers.

                I do appreciate the efforts they are making, but they aren't doing it for US, they are doing it for THEM... it's to try and save a dying franchise, and anyone who thinks differently is intellectually dishonest.

                Ian and the crew seem like they have good intentions, and I'm happy about that... but if they are going to do it, they have to do it right... and answering bare bones, crap questions isn't doing anyone any favors. They are trying to MARKET and SELL a game, that they claim is SOOOO much better, but they have yet to really prove anything...

                And EA customers need to stop acting like EA is doing us a FAVOR by fixing a problematic game that we all PAID for last year.... and the year before.... and the year before that.... and before that.... and the years before that.


                Also, I have been with my cable company for 2 years... they gave me a free PVR.

                I have been with EA for almost 20 years. They have given me.... uhhh..... nothing that I haven't paid for.
                im witcha man, madden has been a really bad game since the next gen started (except for madden 09, it was atleast playable). and its taken them this long to finally make a decent next gen game. its not Ian and the new teams fault, they are really changing things for madden in a big way, its just life when the new president has to take the heat for last one who messed everything up, people are tired of a game that has potential and the means to be a great game but is consistantly underachieving, or in football terms a bust.

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                • Jono078
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 560

                  #173
                  Re: NEW FRANCHISE BLOG

                  Progression still seems suss to me, last year we were told it was improved but that was not true.

                  With this blog I was hoping to hear more about it.

                  And i'm also disappointed it still only happens in the off season.

                  Why do we get weekly roster updates with rating changes? Why not wait til the SB then release 1 big ratings update? Right, it sounds silly.

                  If you have this 50 rated player and he kills it for a month, you can't expect them to do it for the whole year and then progress for the following season. I propose a monthly progression system, That was if someone is in outstanding form they will be recognized for it right away.

                  Anyway, moving on that's something for Madden 11 now, hopefully what's in 10 will be good enough and much better than 09.

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                  • gr18
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2286

                    #174
                    Re: NEW FRANCHISE BLOG

                    Originally posted by Canadeion
                    Exactly, I'm not going to complain about the game play until I've actually played it, but that doesn't mean I can't be mad that they wasted 5 minutes of my life with that sad excuse for a blog.
                    I'm not exactly thrilled with the blog either.I found it too concise and clearly pointed in the 'positive answer' direction.That certainly isn't questioning Josh's integrety though.He's a busy guy and from seeing how some posters react I can understand staying away from the 'it won't be in this year's'.

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                    • Canadeion
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 355

                      #175
                      Re: NEW FRANCHISE BLOG

                      http://www.operationsports.com/forum...se-q-blog.html

                      They didn't even answer the questions in the FIRST SECTION of the VERY FIRST POST.

                      I don't know how anyone can find that acceptable.

                      EA, you're trying to sell a game here. Act like it, please.

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                      • MRxAmazing
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 1170

                        #176
                        Re: NEW FRANCHISE BLOG

                        Wow. Looks like I might as well play Online Franchise only, because Offline Franchise is just logic/bug fixes with a new menu.

                        This is the first blog that has disappointed me completely.

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                        • sois
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 1900

                          #177
                          Re: NEW FRANCHISE BLOG

                          Originally posted by Canadeion
                          http://www.operationsports.com/forum...se-q-blog.html

                          They didn't even answer the questions in the FIRST SECTION of the VERY FIRST POST.

                          I don't know how anyone can find that acceptable.

                          EA, you're trying to sell a game here. Act like it, please.
                          Exactly. FadeEmAll's awesome post was for nothing I guess. It had everything everybody wanted to know.

                          What would have been the harm in answering the questions?

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                          • FOREST007
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 491

                            #178
                            Re: NEW FRANCHISE BLOG

                            yea, i rushed to a computer on my lunch break just to see what was said...im so disappointed right now. im still gonna buy it tho
                            Dear EA, I enjoyed NFL Streetz 2

                            2K IS A HELLUVA DRUG

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                            • Yeah...THAT Guy
                              Once in a Lifetime Memory
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 17294

                              #179
                              Re: NEW FRANCHISE BLOG

                              Originally posted by fourthreemafia
                              Can someone please tell me how many former players become coaches? I can understand as positional coaches, but Ive always hated that you seen top players become head coaches in the game, when that never really happens.
                              This was probably answered by now, but I figured I'd throw in my $.02 anyway.

                              Recent NFL Head Coaches that Played In the NFL:
                              Dick Jauron (Bills)
                              Gary Kubiak (Texans)
                              Tony Dungy (no longer with a team)
                              Bill Cowher (same as Dungy)
                              Jack Del Rio (Jaguars)
                              Jeff Fisher (Titans)
                              Herm Edwars (same as Cowher)
                              Tom Cable (Raiders)
                              Jim Zorn (Redskins)
                              Sean Payton (Saints, practice squad player in NFL)
                              Ken Whisenhunt (Cardinals)
                              Jim Haslett (no longer with team or coordinator for Rams, not sure which)
                              Mike Singletary (49ers)
                              Mike Holmgren (no longer with team)

                              I'm sure there's others that I cannot think of but I know these guys for sure were players in the NFL.
                              NFL: Bills
                              NBA: Bucks
                              MLB: Cubs
                              NCAA: Syracuse
                              Soccer: USMNT/DC United

                              PSN: ButMyT-GunDont

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                              • Deegeezy
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 5265

                                #180
                                Re: NEW FRANCHISE BLOG

                                Will the new franchise hub not allow for us to view CPU vs CPU games?
                                Click here to read my dynasty report:

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