Madden NFL 10 Dev Diary Video: Everything You See On Sunday

[WaddupCouzin]

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I'm looking forward to playing Madden 10. As a diehard fan of the 2K series, I am glad they've stopped bashing 2K and really have taken the best aspects of what made the game so great to so many of us!

Presentation
A True QB Pocket
Oline vs Dline interaction
WR Route Running

Now just take the Challenge System and call it a day! :-)

[Tarheel]

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It's not as simple as you'd like to believe.

If they can patch it in, they will, if not, you wait until next year. Has nothing to do with blowing smoke anywhere.

Why does it have to be, "give me the feature that I want or you don't care about your customers?" When did we get so vain that if the game doesn't cater to each individual of the close to 1 million people who buy the game then it's considered a loss?

C'mon people, you're better than that. There are plenty of guys who want something in the game. Your request/wish/hope is no more important than someone elses.

Not to speak for this person, but the issue is that this has been an issue from day 1 of the next-gen era. Because you don't play with this angle, you don't understand the frustration (and there's nothing wrong with that). For those who do play with this angle, it is important to them as having online franchise for those who expect that feature. Be fair about it--everyone has their own way of enjoying the game. He's not saying his priorities are more important than others, he's just voicing his opinion which is what this forum was created for.

[bubba4]

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I think this issue with broadcast cam needs to be dealt with. The very least they could do is just activate it for cpu and coach mode games. I am not a programmer by any means, but I don't understand how "bugs" could affect this camera angle in a cpu controlled game. After all, the replay system has the broadcast angle.

The new presentation in Madden this year is such a welcome sight!! I can see that they are surely giving maximum effort. For so many years a lot of us have pushed for this. Madden is on the right track now. We broadcast cam fans are simply trying to push them to the finish line. That's all.
Bubba4

[Pared]

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Not to speak for this person, but the issue is that this has been an issue from day 1 of the next-gen era. Because you don't play with this angle, you don't understand the frustration (and there's nothing wrong with that). For those who do play with this angle, it is important to them as having online franchise for those who expect that feature. Be fair about it--everyone has their own way of enjoying the game. He's not saying his priorities are more important than others, he's just voicing his opinion which is what this forum was created for.

Actually I do play from that angle on occasion, so don't assume.

The comment is a microcosm of what is wrong with most of the comments by guys in this forum. They can't get to EVERYTHING this year. If this is one of the things left out, posting about it in any thread that has to do with people mentioning presentation isn't going to do anything but annoy those who actually like the improvements that are obvious in these videos.

Add the fact that he has plenty of posts in the Broadcast camera angle fans unite thread... and it's obvious where this is going.

If you want to talk about the broadcast cam, there is a thread for it. Stop derailing the thread.

[countryboy]

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This year's game looks as though its been developed on completely different console hardware vs past installments.

[TreyIM2]

Pared - Keep reiterating what you said about EA not being able to get to everything this year. I just don't get the whining up here when it is beyond obvious the extreme amount of work to cover multiple bases in this year's Madden. The problem is that this nation is raising too many spoiled males, bottomline. They want everything and are used to getting it in their households and it spreads to every aspect of their lives. They don't know how to appreciate much outside of getting what they want and even then, there is a complaint about something about that, too!

As for the broadcast cam thing, yea, blog it, folks. I only liked broadcast cams for watching a game where I choose the teams and just wanna kick back. Side to side football went out with Tecmo Superbowl, for me.

[adfletch71]

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The only people derailing this thread is people that say "stop whining" about this or that. Madden is the only NFL game in town, so where do we have to go otherwise? Broadcast cam have been in sports video games since last gen. NBA2K, MLB the show and others. All Pro 2k8 as well, all current gen has them. I don't hear them complaining about bugs and glitches about that view. For u guys that only play the madden view way, so what. Thousands play and like to watch the broadcast way. It should be in, no excuses anymore. U want or money, earn it!!!

[SkinsBoYee]

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Could have said it better Bubba...

And Pared, I believe this thread is about presentation is it not? I have to consider camera's a far more important aspect of presentation than say a cut seen of fans, or a coach. What has been frustrating gamers such as myself who play in the broadcast style, is that for 4 years now we have been patiently waiting. We have gone to "Our" specific threads. We have heard over and over again...the "Guess we have to look forward to it next year" line far too many time. We even had Ian himself state last year...this was possibly a patch for last years game. No dice.

I think we are all impressed with the improvements, but to say its an annoyance for people who are happy with the presentation of the game to hear what even a very small minority of folks who pay just as much as the next person who buys this game ask / share there thoughts on what we need in a product for either a purchase or our enjoyment is just as counterproductive as what you garner an annoyance. Do not mean to harp, but this is a big thing for those of the like mind...in fact the biggest. Its painful to see all this development finally and have in the back of the mind, have to hope for next year.

This video is all about the presentation. Like all products, this will be analyzed and criticized. The camera's are the heart of presentation, specifically gameplay presentation. If I am wrong on that aspect of things...then back to our cave we will go. But you have to see the irony in this video...for those that are dying for a broadcast cam...this video is beyond words.

And as Sil from the Soprano's said..."Just when I thought I was out...they pull me back in!"

[thunderstruck22]

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It's not as simple as you'd like to believe.

If they can patch it in, they will, if not, you wait until next year. Has nothing to do with blowing smoke anywhere.

Why does it have to be, "give me the feature that I want or you don't care about your customers?" When did we get so vain that if the game doesn't cater to each individual of the close to 1 million people who buy the game then it's considered a loss?

C'mon people, you're better than that. There are plenty of guys who want something in the game. Your request/wish/hope is no more important than someone elses.

The thing is, i see ian adressing multiple topics and wishlists on this board but 40+pages of broadcast cam he avoids like the black plague. This is where my comment of blowing smoke came from. Throw us a bone ian , give us something from what iv heard its been months since he has mentioned anything about it.

And as far as broadcast cam being relevant to the topic , i think it is. The topic is everything you see on sunday and i have never watched a full game from the view of behind the qb.

I Think alot of us are looking for madden to be exactly what we see when watching a game cam included. If i want to truly feel like im playing "the game" "on the field" Ill buy back breacker from those clips i get the feeling that you will be "on the field" .Madden has the license it should be a true representation of what we see on sunday

[Zedox]

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I haven't posted in a while...lol but oh well. Good job EA. Now, I know you guys don't have it this year...just gimmie Sportscenter. That's it. Weekly stats, maybe some "aww he's not doing good the past couple weeks", some injury reports, someone wanting a trade. But really, you can copy Sportscenter from NFL 2K5 and I won't complain at all (of course you'll have others who will) even though I would want more than just that. Sportscenter, especially for franchise. That and keep working on gameplay and we'll be in good relations. Sexual even...just kidding...lmao.

[Pared]

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If he doesn't address it, he doesn't address it.

When you start posting about it in multiple threads, it can be considered spamming or trolling.

And this thread is a perfect example.

Instead of discussing the video, you're derailing yet ANOTHER thread.

There are guys that want to discuss the video. You've put it out there already what a broadcast camera would mean to you. Again, there is an ENTIRE THREAD for this. There is no need to continue to belabor the point.

[pepp32]

I've just entered the house of EA ,and Ian, "I love what you've done with the place!" Now, "Pylon" animations, pre/halftime/pstgame shows and new commentators along with new running animations and this could be hands down one of the BEST SPORTS SIMULATORS OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aside from all that, this years model looks fantastic. Great Job Ian. See you online Augest 14th!

[Tarheel]

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Actually I do play from that angle on occasion, so don't assume.

The comment is a microcosm of what is wrong with most of the comments by guys in this forum. They can't get to EVERYTHING this year. If this is one of the things left out, posting about it in any thread that has to do with people mentioning presentation isn't going to do anything but annoy those who actually like the improvements that are obvious in these videos.

Add the fact that he has plenty of posts in the Broadcast camera angle fans unite thread... and it's obvious where this is going.

If you want to talk about the broadcast cam, there is a thread for it. Stop derailing the thread.

Buddy relax...its a thread about presentation/broadcast atmosphere so yeah its ok to mention the camera. Hey don't attack me I wasn't assuming anything.

[Tarheel]

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If he doesn't address it, he doesn't address it.

When you start posting about it in multiple threads, it can be considered spamming or trolling.

And this thread is a perfect example.

Instead of discussing the video, you're derailing yet ANOTHER thread.

There are guys that want to discuss the video. You've put it out there already what a broadcast camera would mean to you. Again, there is an ENTIRE THREAD for this. There is no need to continue to belabor the point.

Have you checked your blood pressure today?

[harnalien]

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Have you checked your blood pressure today?

well, this thread was nice while it lasted, lol!

To try and stay on topic; I am looking forward to what the final product looks like so true opinions can start to flow. I am sure this has been a big undertaking for the group if they are truly fixing old issues.