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  • ncaa07jones
    Banned
    • Sep 2006
    • 269

    #46
    Re: those who have it early... will you wait for vick to start a franchise?

    Originally posted by DaTwolves21
    thank you my brother, i dont condone what he did but i understand and am able to move forward, nobody is perfect and thus nobody but the power of above can judge. We have corrupt politicians, gays, lesbians, rapist among other horrible charactered people and i don't look down upon them because it's not my job and i'm not perfect.
    I wonder how many of the anti "Vick" people are supporters of abortion?

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    • DaTwolves21
      Banned
      • Dec 2004
      • 1895

      #47
      Re: those who have it early... will you wait for vick to start a franchise?

      Originally posted by KaptnKirk12
      So now it's racist? Jeeeeeeezeeeeee.
      yup either 1 of the 2, i'm not making it up, deep down inside you know it too, it's always been deeper then just dogs fighting because if the shoe were on the other foot, it would be condoned and everything would be ok, vick was made a example of and thus certain other "people" were warned...........i've seen caucasian people associated with dog fighting................this arguement could go on 4ever i'm done please close this thread asap

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      • soxnut1018
        Puck Dynasty
        • Jan 2008
        • 626

        #48
        Re: those who have it early... will you wait for vick to start a franchise?

        The leading reason in why people hate Vick is because dogs are seen as pets. Animals are tortured every day in this country, yet we only care if the animal is cute. If you eat meat you have no right to criticize Vick. Now I enjoy meat, but I realize that these animals are born and raised as food, then are they slaughtered. Michael Vick did something wrong but the hypocrisy is ridiculous.
        "Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them and you have their shoes."

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        • JaBronie247
          Banned
          • Aug 2009
          • 625

          #49
          Re: those who have it early... will you wait for vick to start a franchise?

          It doesn't matter if a player is good or not everyone deserves a 2nd chance but it depends on the crime/thing they did

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          • ncaa07jones
            Banned
            • Sep 2006
            • 269

            #50
            Re: those who have it early... will you wait for vick to start a franchise?

            Originally posted by soxnut1018
            The leading reason in why people hate Vick is because dogs are seen as pets. Animals are tortured every day in this country, yet we only care if the animal is cute. If you eat meat you have no right to criticize Vick. Now I enjoy meat, but I realize that these animals are born and raised as food, then are they slaughtered. Michael Vick did something wrong but the hypocrisy is ridiculous.
            I couldn't agree more, these people and their double standards.

            Want to talk about morals? Go complain about legalized prostitution in select cities and counties in Nevada, talk about Abortion.

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            • DaTwolves21
              Banned
              • Dec 2004
              • 1895

              #51
              Re: those who have it early... will you wait for vick to start a franchise?

              Originally posted by darthlaidher
              calm down fellas first of all vick wasnt that good of a qb to begin with and stallworth is in his last yrs of playing id say. me being from sacramento im not proud to know that stallworth came from here and vick well he did horrible things to some dogs which me as a owner of a dog would never do, im not a peta fan and im not going to protest that he might play in the nfl again but do i think its right he did those things no i dont.

              but he should get a chance to play again. he did the lesser of two evils even though what stallworth did and vick did were bad i think vick should play again and stallworth should be thrown out of the league and banned from being in the hall of fame... if he gets that far because he killed a human being and hell he only got 30 days in jail and now hes allowed to leave his house to train.WTF

              see you started off on the wrong foot, Vick was and is a hell of QB, a unreal talent and super athletic football player, as far as stallworth, i dont really care, i wasn't there at the accident but i believe that stallworth didnt hit the man on purpose, lol as far as the HOF, nah he hasnt had good enough career to be in it.

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              • darthlaidher
                Banned
                • Aug 2009
                • 503

                #52
                Re: those who have it early... will you wait for vick to start a franchise?

                Originally posted by DaTwolves21
                yup either 1 of the 2, i'm not making it up, deep down inside you know it too, it's always been deeper then just dogs fighting because if the shoe were on the other foot, it would be condoned and everything would be ok, vick was made a example of and thus certain other "people" were warned...........i've seen caucasian people associated with dog fighting................this arguement could go on 4ever i'm done please close this thread asap

                oh please bro dont play the race card thats played out. if it was about race dont you think he would of got off worse since everybody that loves dogs is a racist?

                race has nothing to do with it and for you even to pull that b.s is out of line. are you african american? do you feel the world closing around you because of the color of your skin? relax bro the world isnt out to get you.

                this isnt the 1960s black people has made leaps and bounds since then and to bring up some stupid like that will hell just make you look bad because your playing the race card when most people arnt really racist.

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                • RedZoneD25
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 2963

                  #53
                  Re: those who have it early... will you wait for vick to start a franchise?

                  Originally posted by DaTwolves21
                  it is time for the thread to be closed, this is crazy, I don't get your opinion on Vick and as a african american when i see somebody bashing a black athlete or celebrity i think deep down inside it's either your jealous of his status or your racist............
                  I imagine if you said something about a white athlete it is automatically hate as well?

                  If you're truly able to get over it, you wouldn't be saying stuff as stupid as this. I am a WHITE supporter of Vick's return, but to say if someone isn't a fan of it must mean he is racist...

                  His status- most hated football player in the past 20 years. Hmm..That's a ton to be jealous of.

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                  • JaBronie247
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 625

                    #54
                    Re: those who have it early... will you wait for vick to start a franchise?

                    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...tallworth.html for everyone who doesn't know the story there it is! its about MIKE VICK an DANTE STALLWORTH ok so read it then think to yourself bout morals

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                    • darthlaidher
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 503

                      #55
                      Re: those who have it early... will you wait for vick to start a franchise?

                      Originally posted by DaTwolves21
                      see you started off on the wrong foot, Vick was and is a hell of QB, a unreal talent and super athletic football player, as far as stallworth, i dont really care, i wasn't there at the accident but i believe that stallworth didnt hit the man on purpose, lol as far as the HOF, nah he hasnt had good enough career to be in it.
                      hella good at running thats it that fool wasnt accurate enough to be a good qb

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                      • ncaa07jones
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 269

                        #56
                        Re: those who have it early... will you wait for vick to start a franchise?

                        Originally posted by darthlaidher
                        hella good at running thats it that fool wasnt accurate enough to be a good qb
                        but yet he started.... as a professional QB, So I guess your smarter than a NFL Coach now.

                        So now there's 32-64 QBs that are better than Vick?

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                        • JaBronie247
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 625

                          #57
                          Re: those who have it early... will you wait for vick to start a franchise?

                          Originally posted by davey225
                          I imagine if you said something about a white athlete it is automatically hate as well?

                          If you're truly able to get over it, you wouldn't be saying stuff as stupid as this. I am a WHITE supporter of Vick's return, but to say if someone isn't a fan of it must mean he is racist...

                          His status- most hated football player in the past 20 years. Hmm..That's a ton to be jealous of.
                          Thats only because of the dog fighting situation before that he was the most marketable player in the NFL also he even won a ESPY in 2003 best NFL player but only haters vote for that right?

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                          • darthlaidher
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 503

                            #58
                            Re: those who have it early... will you wait for vick to start a franchise?

                            Originally posted by ncaa07jones
                            but yet he started.... as a professional QB, So I guess your smarter than a NFL Coach now.
                            yeah he started but look at the back up lol they should of put the back up in, they used him for his running threat mostly. he wasnt a pocket passer. even you know that.

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                            • Manny_Shevitz
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 268

                              #59
                              Re: those who have it early... will you wait for vick to start a franchise?

                              Originally posted by DaTwolves21
                              yup either 1 of the 2, i'm not making it up, deep down inside you know it too, it's always been deeper then just dogs fighting because if the shoe were on the other foot, it would be condoned and everything would be ok, vick was made a example of and thus certain other "people" were warned...........i've seen caucasian people associated with dog fighting................this arguement could go on 4ever i'm done please close this thread asap
                              So, your reasoning is that because there are white people involved in dog fighting as well, then anyone who condemns Michael Vick for what he did is racist? Yeah...that makes perfect sense. Dude, how do you even know what color my skin is?

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                              • CBizzle
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 192

                                #60
                                Re: those who have it early... will you wait for vick to start a franchise?

                                The Vick hate in here is sickening. He did his time, and now he deserves a second chance. I'm sure all of you would feel a lot different if a family member/close friend/sibling did something like this. Then would you still say they don't deserve to be a part of society? Yeah, you probably wouldn't.
                                Last edited by CBizzle; 08-12-2009, 03:11 AM.
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