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  • LEBRONSTOPPER24
    Rookie
    • Feb 2008
    • 76

    #31
    Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

    Originally posted by landoniandeux
    This game is terrible as far as defense goes. There is no way passes to the flats should be so powerful. Wildcat abused heavily. Absolutely the worst pursuit angles (there is no way someone should be able to completely just turn around and run rampid on a top 10 defense). This game also has no pass rush if you r just rushing your front 4.
    and not being able to get user sacks this is the worst madden defense game of all time

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    • marc68
      Rookie
      • Jul 2003
      • 494

      #32
      Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

      I asked Ian about the flats issue, he never responded...I am sure he is being bombarded with the same question, but I would like to see what they are going to patch.

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      • bababooey76
        Pro Sports Handicapper
        • Jul 2008
        • 609

        #33
        Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

        I thought he was on vacation. I wonder how long it will take for EA to respond.
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        • Ænima
          Rookie
          • Aug 2009
          • 149

          #34
          Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

          Great post OP, although you left out the run blocking AI which is just atrocious. If you haven't picked up on it, call a variety of running plays and watch the decisions made by your OLine & TEs from play to play. It's bad. Really bad.
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          • tmulk
            Banned
            • Dec 2007
            • 450

            #35
            Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

            Originally posted by bababooey76
            From the posts I am reading, you are in the minority.
            Keep reading Baba Booey. Alot of people love this game, myself included. Seems like to me alot of the posters who dislike the game are just bitter in general, and love to hate. Not all, but some.

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            • tmulk
              Banned
              • Dec 2007
              • 450

              #36
              Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

              Originally posted by j2k9
              I love the zoom view! Speak for yourself. It gives me that immersion feeling like I'm really out there.
              Agree 100%. This is what we see in a broadcast. As soon as its obvious the player is going down, the director cuts to Hero-cam and shows a closeup of the runner, followed by a closeup of the tackler.

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              • mmorg
                MVP
                • Jul 2004
                • 2304

                #37
                Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

                Originally posted by Ruffy
                Don't put all of us in with your opinion.

                I'm enjoying the hell out of this game despite some flaws. Do us a favour and make a blog....this forum is cluttered with the same thread worded differently.
                If people didn't post threads then how would the developers know who to invite to the Community Day then huh?

                This whole forum has become an application for EA's Community Day event, it has now become a huge joke.
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                • bababooey76
                  Pro Sports Handicapper
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 609

                  #38
                  Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

                  Originally posted by tmulk
                  Keep reading Baba Booey. Alot of people love this game, myself included. Seems like to me alot of the posters who dislike the game are just bitter in general, and love to hate. Not all, but some.
                  A lot of people don't love it as well. Maybe you need to read a little bit too.
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                  • torrey
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 216

                    #39
                    Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

                    Originally posted by ityaboy56
                    Just be patient. It just came out, give it a minute. Now if in a month or so and it's still the same then we all have every right to complain. Don't get me wrong, I'm having some the same issues as well. But I have heard people are already given up on it.
                    thats because of the track record of EA. i agree though, we need to give it some time.

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                    • Exonerated
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 4899

                      #40
                      Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

                      Originally posted by LEBRONSTOPPER24
                      and not being able to get user sacks this is the worst madden defense game of all time
                      Lol don't blame the game for your failings.

                      The average NFL games averages around 2.5 sacks per game.

                      And I can get that many in the first drive.

                      Defense definitely works in this game. Ratings really matter. YOu can't have scrubs on defense and expect them to cover or get pressure.

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                      • Bootzilla
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 1433

                        #41
                        Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

                        The original poster made some really valid points. Many of the issues with gameplay can be fixed with sliders. I'm speaking solely from a single player perspective. I feel people should always state whether they are playing single player/off-line/on-line, etc. so we can narrow down the issues.

                        The stats issue does screw up realism in Franchise Mode.

                        The issue with the flats isn't as much of a problem in single player mode when you up the reaction time of the pass defense. I'm sure it's very easily abused vs human opponents.

                        I don't know if there'll be a fix this year for pass rushing OLB's in 3-4 defenses. Needs to be re-tooled. Maybe the stats can be fixed but, not the overall play or understanding of the defense.

                        The pass rush and running game both can be fixed with sliders. Now the blocking logic is screwed up but with proper sliders you can replicate real stats. Being patient and using your blocks and cut back lanes is actually very rewarding. I feel that the game is meant to be played with 60 or so snaps for both teams and people are wanting to see more sacks and are playing too few minutes.

                        The thing I agree with most with the original poster is that they need guys who know football. Someone is looking at the sack totals of OLB's in the 3-4 and are signing off on it. They must think it's okay. If they do, we need different people. Someone had to look at that stupid over the shoulder catch animation and say "yeah, that's cool!!!!! keep that animation and make it fire as many times as possible!!!!!" It's not cool. It's unrealistic. I remember seeing Donny and Ian on First Take and I thought to myself, "These guys look like they've never played a down of football in their lives."

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                        • JayBee74
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 22989

                          #42
                          Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

                          Isn't this about the time to talk about how good Madden 11 will be?
                          If your having fun with this game fine. I'm not really that picky, but until the line issues are cleared up this game is unplayable. The OL and DL ratings mean nothing and the blocking sucks. Fix that and I'm all in. Fix the other stuff too, but that's my major concern. The heart of football is the battle in the trenches and this thing isn't even ticking. I hope it's patchable.

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                          • vikingsfan1
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 827

                            #43
                            Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

                            Originally posted by j2k9
                            I love the zoom view! Speak for yourself. It gives me that immersion feeling like I'm really out there.
                            Do you work for EA. Get a life. It just an opinion. Nobody say they hate the game. If you like that stupid zoom view after every tackle good for you I am not going to knock you for it.

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                            • JayBee74
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 22989

                              #44
                              Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

                              Originally posted by Bootzilla
                              The pass rush and running game both can be fixed with sliders. Now the blocking logic is screwed up but with proper sliders you can replicate real stats.
                              The problem is that a 92 rated Center should outplay a 76 rated Nose Tackle over the long haul and that's not happening. Also the computer AI seems to adapt to that mismatch by leveling the playing field.

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                              • rhombic21
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 590

                                #45
                                Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

                                This game is just not fun from an online perspective, at least not on the regular ranked games (I've thought about doing the elite thing, but refuse out of principle). The main issue is the pass defense. Pass rush and underneath coverage are both horrible. Basically the game ends up coming down to who can catch the other guy offguard with a nano or two and get a clutch stop or INT.

                                But the run blocking is also horrible. If it weren't for RBs breaking some ridiculous tackles (my favorite are the tackles where you have 3+ defenders hanging on a guy, stopping his momentum completely, and then he miraculously comes out and races to the endzone), the run game would suck.

                                Overall, the game just isn't fun to play online.

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