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Re: The Worst Trade AI/Player Management in History: A Case Study
I seldom get involved in trades but I will say in season 3 several CPU teams are starting HORRIBLE QB's when much higher rated guys languish in the FA pool. I'm talking 40+ guys with 70+ guys available.
I've also seen higher rated guys stuck on CPU depth charts below lower rated guys for some odd reason as well.
I do think the CPU roster management AI needs some tweaking.Comment
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Re: The Worst Trade AI/Player Management in History: A Case Study
Maybe Frerotte just got hurt in those games and Sepulveda had to come in? That's what I assumed when I saw the numbers.
Oh and I can't see Vick going for anything more than a 4th rounder at this point.Twitter: @Palo50
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Re: The Worst Trade AI/Player Management in History: A Case Study
Using a punter at QB is a problem.
But how can you assume that the CPU has the ability to reason like a person? AI decides things based in pre-programmed ways, it doesn't have the ability to evaluate anything like how valuable a QB is when a team's starting QB is injured.
The AI's not that good but then it's never been.Comment
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Re: The Worst Trade AI/Player Management in History: A Case Study
Hey, I've got a GREAT one. Every year in my franchise I trade, straight up, my first round pick for the Raiders first round pick. I just won the Super Bowl and they still traded straight up at the beginning of the next season. Another top 5 pick for me. Wooooo!
Seriously though, I'm going to have to stop doing this. It was fun the first couple times, but at some point I like it to seem atleast halfway realistic. The Raiders are not only consistently worse than I am record-wise, but my overall team rating is higher than theirs. It makes literally NO sense.Playing Madden for what it is, not what it used to be.
If you continue seeking a Madden game with all of the options it had on XBox, you will be disappointed. If you accept that the next-gen version of Madden is a downgrade in every area except graphics, then you will find a true gaming experience.Comment
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Re: The Worst Trade AI/Player Management in History: A Case Study
The Chief's would never and should never do the first one but it looks like you got one over on the Bengals.
As far as punters working as QB's. It is quite funny but did you check the depth chart? Maybe he was listed above Dixon? I know when I set my depth charts to CPU it does some pretty funky things like putting my punter as the no 2.Comment
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Re: The Worst Trade AI/Player Management in History: A Case Study
Because he hasn't played in 2 years and has off-field issues? A 73 QB with 90 SPD and only a $1.5M CAP hit is a 73 QB with 90 SPD and a $1.5M CAP hit. If the CPU trade logic could actually devalue a player "right now" "at this point" because he is unproven and possibly rusty IRL I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be having the Trade AI conversation right now.
On those Chiefs trades - Larry Johnson is the 15th rated RB at 88 OVR and is older than all but two of the RBs ahead of him at 29. A first and second round pick is awful costly. Plus if you factor in the Mike Vick logic above, Gmama hasn't done anything lately to garner that type of value. (Just 1500 YDS & 8 TDs in 2 years?)Comment
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Re: The Worst Trade AI/Player Management in History: A Case Study
I don't know if this is the reason, but if I draft a 1st rounder and he ends up being a bust (50-69 overall with low potential), I'll still play him the first year to try to be as realistic as possible and to see if perhaps he plays better than his rating.
Most of the time though, he stinks and I doubt the CPU does this as well because I've seen 5th rounders who are gems that come in at 80 and start right away.Jay Cutler is a whiny little girl.Comment
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Re: The Worst Trade AI/Player Management in History: A Case Study
The Vick trade logic is a little odd, but it could be as simple as the AI wanting to sign a FA QB instead or maybe it's programmed to seek out a certain type of QB.
As for the depth chart thing, I know some odd things can happen when you sign a player. Here's what I think happened: Steelers depth chart is listed as: Big Ben #1, Batch #2, Dixon #3. Ben and Batch get hurt, but remain at #1 and #2. Frerotte is signed and becomes the new #3 (after Ben and Batch). But since the first two are injured he starts the games. Dixon is then bumped off the depth chart and is listed as benched. When Frerotte is injured mid-game, the AI automatically turns to the next possible player who is not benched. That would be the good ol' punter.
I think that perhaps when a player is listed as benched (off the depth chart completely and not a special teams player) that player is not available to participate in games.
The really wierd thing that I can't explain is how the punter with those attributes managed to do so well.Comment
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Re: The Worst Trade AI/Player Management in History: A Case Study
I'm only saying what I have heard on a couple radio stations and tv shows, saying if Vick has some decent accuracy and still has those legs under him, he could go for a second round or better. I don't believe that, but that is what I have heard. Not trying to start anything, lol.
To be on topic, I do believe the trade logic is horrible this year. I don't expect anything to be that great anymore with Madden's franchise. It sucks. There is a saying we all know and love "There's always next year."Comment
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Re: The Worst Trade AI/Player Management in History: A Case Study
Wait a second. The OP refuses to use Vick even to the point of skipping him to the 3rd string QB, but then complains when the CPU doesn't want Vick.Comment
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Re: The Worst Trade AI/Player Management in History: A Case Study
I actually found a PERFECT way to get around the bold part.
With the addition of editing players on any team there is a glitch/bug (which ever) when ever you change a players position he becomes the starter automatically so go to edit the higher players position make him a Kicker or Punter, Press start then go to edit again and bring him back to his original position and he is now the starter.Hurricanes
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Re: The Worst Trade AI/Player Management in History: A Case Study
To the OP, how in the world did you expect to get a 1st, 2nd or even 3rd pick for Vick? That punter situation was pretty wack. It's one thing for him to be playing QB, but to be playing at a decent level is just ridiculous.
To marktg30, I think the Cassel trade was somewhat reasonable, but getting a first and a second for LJ is a bit of a stretch.Comment
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