It's Ratings Season: Patrick Peterson Top Rated Madden 12 Rookie

[The JareBear]

Peterson is a beast, great draft pick

[ConnSKINS26]

Re: It's Ratings Season: Patrick Peterson Top Rated Madden 12 Rookie

I always wonder how they're going to rate the guys with top-notch measurables who are drafted much later.

Like a Taiwan Jones. He deserves 97-99 speed, and comparable agility and acc ratings.

Are they going to gimp his speed so he's not such a good "Madden RB"? Or will they take care of that by keeping his Truck/Spin/Juke/Elusiveness ratings low, as he's a raw prospect (and low injury rating).

I hope so. Before he broke out and he was just a random fast Oakland 4th rounder, did Jacoby Ford have elite speed in '11? I guess that should answer my question.

[guaps]

Re: It's Ratings Season: Patrick Peterson Top Rated Madden 12 Rookie

Another example of over-inflation with the attributes. That JMP attribute seems way off to me.

In FBG, he is:
OVR: 80
STR: 66
AGI: 92
SPD: 94
ACC: 90
JMP: 82

While I clearly prefer these ratings over Donny's, I still think an overall of 80 is a bit high for a rookie who has never played a snap in the NFL.

[4solo]

i always like seeing how they rate the RB's of the rookie class

they always seem to make mistakes on guys all the time , if Kendall Hunter has under 92 agility im gonna be pissed

and same for Jaquizz his Agility better be a 96 or 97


because of the new way the Speed, Accel, and Agility are all tied into your speed and stop and go speed , they never get the running style right for the newer RB's imo

AD , Lynch and McFadden were a few of the More recent that they did a Good job on but others like

like Reggie Bush he shouldnt break as many tackles as he does , he should keep his core of speed accel and agility being all 97's but his Elusiveness(ability to break free of a tackle) needs to be fixed to a 80 imo

But guess what the great thing about this year is that we can edit palyers even during franchise. Oh I can't wait!

[sniperhare]

Re: It's Ratings Season: Patrick Peterson Top Rated Madden 12 Rookie

His ratings are higher than I'd like. The NFL isn't college, he shouldn't have that high of man coverage and press until he shows he can actually play at that level with NFL WR's.

They don't even have camp info leaking out to determine who is going to be starters or backups, or who it playing good or not.

[guaps]

Re: It's Ratings Season: Patrick Peterson Top Rated Madden 12 Rookie

His ratings are higher than I'd like. The NFL isn't college, he shouldn't have that high of man coverage and press until he shows he can actually play at that level with NFL WR's.

One of the problems I have with Madden is Tiburon's inclination to please casual gamers and youngsters, who want to see their favorite players dominate. The players in the NFL are given way too high ratings in Madden, especially the elite and rookies, who are assumed to be elite. And usually they get great ratings across the board, so they will always be elite no matter how poor the user input.

I'd prefer if they rated players lower (no players above 90 OVR and very few 90+ individual ratings) and allowed gamers to worry more about using their player's strengths (and hide their weaknesses), so you could have a 72 OVR playing like he's much better than his overall and vice versa. However, you first need to make the ratings to work properly

[Brandwin]

Re: It's Ratings Season: Patrick Peterson Top Rated Madden 12 Rookie

It's nice to see the highest rated rookie will be an 82.

[Dbrentonbuck]

Re: It's Ratings Season: Patrick Peterson Top Rated Madden 12 Rookie

Maybe I am in the minority here, but I don't think Peterson should be the highest rated rookie. I don't know who should be, but I don't think it is Peterson. Head to Head, Julio Jones was better than Peterson. While Peterson didn't cover Jones on every single play, they were head to head the majority of the time. Jones definitely burned Peterson on more than one occasion.

2010: LSU 24, Alabama 21 <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>
Jones: 10 catches for 89 yards, 1 TD <o></o>
Peterson: 6 tackles, 3 pass breakups<o></o></SPAN>
<o> </o>
2009: Alabama 24, LSU 15 <o></o>
Jones: 4 catches for 102 yards, 1 TD <o></o>
Peterson: 3 tackles, 3 pass breakups<o></o></SPAN>
<o> </o>
2008: Alabama 27, LSU 21 <o></o>
Jones: 7 catches for 128 yards <o></o>
Peterson: 4 tackles, 1 interception</SPAN><o></o>

I am not saying that Jones should be the top rated rookie. I am saying that Jones was as good if not better than Peterson head to head so Peterson should not be the top rated rookie.

This was just last November when Jones had 10 catches and a TD against Peterson. That doesn't sound like a shut down corner to me.

[LBzrule]

Re: It's Ratings Season: Patrick Peterson Top Rated Madden 12 Rookie

I think an 82 is a perfect rating for him. He's the top rated rookie that is expected to come in and make an impact right away. It's about projection and even as a rookie they are projecting him to make a bigger impact at the position than guys like Fabian Washington. I think that is right especially considering what an 82 overall means in Madden/NCAA. He could turn out to be a bust (very doubtful), but his measurables and athleticism alone forces them to project him to be better than a lot of guys already in the league. I just hope they regarded Jimmy Smith with at least a 77/78 overall with similar man/zone coverage/bump, 95 speed, 92 agility, 91 accel. Smith is another example. The Ravens best rated CB in 2011 was Foxworth who did not play because of an ACL injury. Out of the gate he was an 82. I think on the final roster he was a 82.

The Ravens drafted Smith and told him he would be covering the #1 for other teams out of the gate. Now don't you think, as far as Madden goes, when the defensive coordinator in real life says Smith will be covering #1 not Foxworth, don't you think that you have to rate that rookie better than the best CB they have on the team the previous year? He may not have a higher overall, but he has to be better than Foxworth in several other areas, whether he has played an NFL down or not. OK his Awareness and Play Recognition may not be where Foxworth's is due to NFL Experience, which is only a 78 and 79 respectively, but his Man coverage, Zone Coverage, Press, Speed, Agility, Strength, Accel, Jump have to be better (these are based on projection and measureables, not experience). That's what the coordinator is indicating when he says, you will be covering the #1 WR for other teams day 1.

With that said, I don't have a problem with PP7's rating at all looking at the CB's on the final roster for the Cards from last season. DRC ended with an 87 Ovr and their #2 CB Toler was a 74 overall. What is an 82 overall saying for this team? It's saying that PP7 is not where DRC is, but he's expected to be the #2 CB out of the gate, so he has to be rated higher than Toler. He does not have DRC's NFL Experience, but he does have his measureables and is more physically gifted. What does an 82 overall mean in Madden as a whole? Probably not much.

So what do you do? I just think an entire body of sources should come together to rate players. You have their physical gifts; you have their projected impact on the league as a whole, but then you have their projected impact on a team, what the players on the team at that position were rated previously?

[JaySmooov]

While I clearly prefer these ratings over Donny's, I still think an overall of 80 is a bit high for a rookie who has never played a snap in the NFL.

For people who may think his ratings are over-inflated, consider:

He ran a 4.34 40 time, officially.

He was one of the top performers in the 3-cone drill at 6.58 (0.14 percentage points off the Combine Record - this was actually set THIS year by Buster Skrine, so Skrine's agility SHOULD be one of the highest in the game).

I'm not sure about the Jumping rating though. I'd think 87-90 would translate better, since I'm pretty sure they're using the combine numbers. To compare, the record holder in the Broad Jump AND Vertical Jump, Donald Washington, had a 98 jump in Madden 10, and he jumped 45 inched in the vertical jump and 11 feet, 3 inches in the broad jump.

Peterson only jumped a 38 vertical jump, and 10 feet, 6 inches. So I think the JMP rating needs to be toned down a bit, around the 88-90 rating.

No problem with the coverage ratings. He was considered a true shutdown corner in college and most feel he will be in the NFL.

All this at 220 pounds.

[JaySmooov]

Maybe I am in the minority here, but I don't think Peterson should be the highest rated rookie. I don't know who should be, but I don't think it is Peterson. Head to Head, Julio Jones was better than Peterson. While Peterson didn't cover Jones on every single play, they were head to head the majority of the time. Jones definitely burned Peterson on more than one occasion.

2010: LSU 24, Alabama 21 <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>
Jones: 10 catches for 89 yards, 1 TD <o></o>
Peterson: 6 tackles, 3 pass breakups<o></o></SPAN>
<o> </o>
2009: Alabama 24, LSU 15 <o></o>
Jones: 4 catches for 102 yards, 1 TD <o></o>
Peterson: 3 tackles, 3 pass breakups<o></o></SPAN>
<o> </o>
2008: Alabama 27, LSU 21 <o></o>
Jones: 7 catches for 128 yards <o></o>
Peterson: 4 tackles, 1 interception</SPAN><o></o>

I am not saying that Jones should be the top rated rookie. I am saying that Jones was as good if not better than Peterson head to head so Peterson should not be the top rated rookie.

This was just last November when Jones had 10 catches and a TD against Peterson. That doesn't sound like a shut down corner to me.

Even Darrelle Revis got burned by Randy Moss. Not an indictment of Peterson's coverage skills, but more of the skill of Jones.

[JaySmooov]

I'm curious to see the rating Madden gives Da'Quan Bowers. They can't slight the guy for injury concerns that dropped his draft stock. Last time I checked, the injury rating doesn't drop the overall rating. He was considered the #1 overall pick back in March by Todd McShay (Not sure about Kiper, you know they always disagree though )

That being said, I think 76-80 would be the appropriate range for him, but closer to 80. I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of the chosen few to crack 80+ this year, since it looks like it won't be many. I'm thinking Bowers, AJ Green, Marcell Dareus, Von Miller, Tyron Smith, Mike Pouncey, and possibly Cam Newton, due to the Physical ratings.

Also, don't think too quickly that Julio Jones would be the 2nd best rookie, or even have a rating above 80. Remember, he had a problem with drops, and he didn't run much routes. Those are probably the two most important ratings for a WR. So if he comes in with 70-76 catching AND route running, which is a strong possibility (It would probably end up closer to 76 since he WAS picked 6th overall) then he could end up with a rating of 76-78. So more than likely, AJ Green cracks 80 even, with better hands and route running, but certainly Jones will be faster.

[JaySmooov]

Re: It's Ratings Season: Patrick Peterson Top Rated Madden 12 Rookie

I just think an entire body of sources should come together to rate players. You have their physical gifts; you have their projected impact on the league as a whole, but then you have their projected impact on a team, what the players on the team at that position were rated previously?

I can't see EA using that logic too much. For example, the Bears drafted a safety YET AGAIN in Chris Conte. Now, Angelo said he may be the first TRUE free safety, whatever THAT means, since John Lynch. (I thought a FS was just the safety who could cover, personally, but that's me). I can't see EA inflating Conte's ratings because of those comments.

[LBzrule]

Re: It's Ratings Season: Patrick Peterson Top Rated Madden 12 Rookie

I can't see EA using that logic too much. For example, the Bears drafted a safety YET AGAIN in Chris Conte. Now, Angelo said he may be the first TRUE free safety, whatever THAT means, since John Lynch. (I thought a FS was just the safety who could cover, personally, but that's me). I can't see EA inflating Conte's ratings because of those comments.

Yeah but is he going to start day 1 for the Bears or is he competing? That's the difference between players like PP7, Jimmy Smith, both who have been given the drivers seat already and say Conte who I'm not sure he will start. If he does I think you have to look at the current safety on the roster and if Conte beats him out, you either should lower that Safety or you give Conte the same overall as him.

[Bengals28]

Re: It's Ratings Season: Patrick Peterson Top Rated Madden 12 Rookie

AJ Green should be the next highest rated rookie.