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  • tatmanfish
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    • Aug 2009
    • 165

    #46
    Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

    Skill, no suction, and improved AI will unleash it. Mini games just ruin the realistic aspect of the game. Its an attempt to be a simulation style football game, not NFL Blitz.

    I mean if you suck at manual pass rushing, there are people taht can help you become better along with practicing on your own. No need to dumb down the game for those who havent taken the time to learn the timing and art of pass rushing.

    Thanks for confirming youre trolling as well. How did those suction and rocket catch threads turn out?

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    • ryan36
      7 dirty words...
      • Feb 2003
      • 10139

      #47
      Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

      Originally posted by tatmanfish
      Skill, no suction, and improved AI will unleash it. Mini games just ruin the realistic aspect of the game. Its an attempt to be a simulation style football game, not NFL Blitz.

      I mean if you suck at manual pass rushing, there are people taht can help you become better along with practicing on your own. No need to dumb down the game for those who havent taken the time to learn the timing and art of pass rushing.

      Thanks for confirming your trolling as well. How did those suction and rocket catch threads turn out?
      Don't call out someone for trolling. Nobody here is the person responsible for those threads dude.

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      • TheShizNo1
        Asst 2 the Comm Manager
        • Mar 2007
        • 26341

        #48
        Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

        Originally posted by tatmanfish
        Skill, no suction, and improved AI will unleash it. Mini games just ruin the realistic aspect of the game. Its an attempt to be a simulation style football game, not NFL Blitz.

        I mean if you suck at manual pass rushing, there are people taht can help you become better along with practicing on your own. No need to dumb down the game for those who havent taken the time to learn the timing and art of pass rushing.

        Thanks for confirming your trolling as well. How did those suction and rocket catch threads turn out?
        You calling me a dumb troll?

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        • ryan36
          7 dirty words...
          • Feb 2003
          • 10139

          #49
          Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

          Let's move on , I don't want to have to close the thread. there are some great IDEAS in here. I want the devs to see

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          • The GIGGAS
            Timbers - Jags - Hokies
            • Mar 2003
            • 28474

            #50
            Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

            Originally posted by ryan36
            Let's move on , I don't want to have to close the thread. there are some great IDEAS in here. I want the devs to see
            Completely agree. These ideas can be revolutionary.
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            • RedZoneD25
              MVP
              • Aug 2008
              • 2963

              #51
              Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

              Originally posted by tatmanfish
              Skill, no suction, and improved AI will unleash it. Mini games just ruin the realistic aspect of the game. Its an attempt to be a simulation style football game, not NFL Blitz.

              I mean if you suck at manual pass rushing, there are people taht can help you become better along with practicing on your own. No need to dumb down the game for those who havent taken the time to learn the timing and art of pass rushing.

              Thanks for confirming your trolling as well. How did those suction and rocket catch threads turn out?
              There were no mini-games in NFL Blitz. Unless you count giving the guy you just tackled a leg drop Hogan-style.

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              • ryan36
                7 dirty words...
                • Feb 2003
                • 10139

                #52
                Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

                Originally posted by WTFitsDaveyJ
                There were no mini-games in NFL Blitz. Unless you count giving the guy you just tackled a leg drop Hogan-style.
                besides, with the right camera transitions, you wouldn't even know they were mini games.

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                • TheShizNo1
                  Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 26341

                  #53
                  Originally posted by ryan36
                  besides, with the right camera transitions, you wouldn't even know they were mini games.
                  They could go split screen.
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                  Just once I'd like to be the one they call a jerk off.
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                  • ryan36
                    7 dirty words...
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 10139

                    #54
                    Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

                    Originally posted by TheShizNo1
                    They could go split screen.
                    yes!!! that way the offense meters wouldn't interfere with the defense meters... it WOULD ALSO solve the problem of SEEING THE WHOLE FIELD UNREALISTICALLY

                    YES YES YES!

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                    • bkrich83
                      Has Been
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 71574

                      #55
                      It ain't sim unless you have

                      Tracking my NCAA Coach Career

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                      • Mo
                        SSN
                        • May 2003
                        • 11425

                        #56
                        Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

                        What madden needs is the analog throwing meter/system like The Show's Analog Fielding.
                        Don't you EVER read my blog? It's gotten a lot better.

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                        • ryan36
                          7 dirty words...
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 10139

                          #57
                          Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

                          Originally posted by Mo
                          What madden needs is the analog throwing meter/system like The Show's Analog Fielding.
                          They could do it like mlb2k, where each gesture was a different type of pass...bullet, lob , fade... or tie the gesture to the route.

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                          • tatmanfish
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 165

                            #58
                            Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

                            Mini games are dumbing it down(not saying youre dumb). Instead of using skill and timing to beat a guy, your just pushing corresponding buttons to intiate the same animations that are currently innitiated by pressing buttons or the R-stick. The only different is one required skill and the other requires knowing where the buttons are on the controller and pushing them when the screen tells you to.

                            You are literally taking out the skill and replacing it with a concept thats used in such skill required games as Mario Party.

                            PS Davey- i know there were no mini games in Blitz.....It was a comparison of simulation style football, versus full blown arcade football.....Which is where these mini games would begin to take the game.

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                            • The GIGGAS
                              Timbers - Jags - Hokies
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 28474

                              #59
                              Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

                              I think Madden will really be sim on the Wii U. Can you imagine? Just draw a line of where you want your player to go, and he goes there. Want to throw a pass? Just draw a line.

                              Man, I'm salivating over here.
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                              • canes21
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                                • Sep 2008
                                • 22898

                                #60
                                Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

                                Originally posted by ryan36
                                My guess is you then switch to first person view so you could be the guy in the middle of those soldiers as QB?
                                Playing in 1st person when using the Phalanx formation was always so much fun, but I felt cheap because I usually couldn't be stopped. It seemed like USC and Michigan State always put out the best players for the Phalanx.
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