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  • guaps
    Observer
    • Sep 2009
    • 694

    #991
    Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

    Originally posted by unBEARable
    Average for me, it was nice to play some football though as i've not bothered with madden since 09 and I didn't like that version.

    Still lacking PI calls even when set to 100 as well as other penalties. Also still lacking challenge options.

    Also experienced some dodgy OL blocking when my center ignored the NT in a 3 front so my QB just got sacked. It's not as bad as previous years but it was a reminder of things that annoy me about Madden. The new camera angles are nice though.

    The franchise additions have got me tempted BUT I'm going to continue on with the demo for a week or so to see if i'm going to pick it up. Been burnt by Madden to many times in the past.
    I've had the NT unblocked on a few plays too, but they were all run plays. Even plays where up to three guys (C, RG and FB) all missed the NT. I mean, come on, he's 6'2" 340 lbs and not the kind of guy you easily overlook. I haven't seen it on any pass plays yet, but I did notice that's he's incredibly fast once he's off his blocker.

    Regarding the dodgy blocking, the OL/DL interaction still seem very scripted to me, as it's been in the past. I especially don't like the fact that DL don't have a drive to get to the ball carrier. They run about and interact with the OL, but they're not really trying to get to the ball carrier.

    One of the worst examples of this so far was a play, where one of my DTs was assigned to spy the QB (to counter the mad QB runs) and my other DT was doing a stunt. I had to record a video of it, because it looked so wrong. I'm user controlling Peppers and do get to the QB albeit too late (he threw a TD on that pass), but my DT just runs straight past a WIDE open hole in the offensive line without noticing it. Also the LG seems aware of the play, so he moves into position to block before the DT is even half way there.
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    On a side note, does anyone, who's tried a more recent build, know if they've fixed zone coverage in regards to the running game? I've seen instances where a CB in zone coverage doesn't recognize a scrambling QB until he's over the line of scrimmage - even if he's running straight at the CB and there's no receiver in his zone.

    Also, if your LBs are in zone coverage on a run play, they have to wait until the ball is handed off to the RB before they can react. It appears that play recognition doesn't have any effect until the handoff has taken place - even for players like Urlacher. This is very disappointing, but would explain (along with overpowered OLs) why running is so easy in Madden 12.

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    • Broncos86
      Orange and Blue!
      • May 2009
      • 5505

      #992
      Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

      Interestingly, I can see the referees better in Madden than NCAA. In NCAA, the back judge would, at a glance, be hard for me to distinguish from the safeties and it'd mess me up a bit. In Madden, I don't have that issue at all.

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      • NYJin2009tm
        Rookie
        • Mar 2009
        • 239

        #993
        Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

        Originally posted by Aggies7
        I know I'm late to the party but I prefer the camera angle further away. Allows me to see more of the field and watch the play develop.
        I agree. I like this better too.

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        • Buddywalker
          Rookie
          • Aug 2011
          • 71

          #994
          On the Xbox the instant replays are way too short. The Xbox demo only shows the last seconds of the play.

          On the PS3 the instant replays are just fine. Here you can see the full play.

          I hope, they will fix this issue on the Xbox soon.

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          • SDOTizBak23
            Banned
            • Jul 2011
            • 17

            #995
            What slider settings is everyone playing on? I want the most realistic setting of sliders and difficulty should be on all pro or atleast all madden. Thanks! (I want the game to feel like I have a 50/50 chance of winning or losing... Not just downright win or downright get clobbered)

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            • Playmakers
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2004
              • 15344

              #996
              Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

              Originally posted by Armor & Sword
              Kicking is a major surprise. It looks and feels awesome. And i have not even fiddled with the sliders at all. Once I get a great set in place it will be even more of a challenge.


              As far as the default camera angle. You will have the zoomed camera option, the broadcast option or the classic option (demo). I am going to give the zoomed camera a run this year as I have heard it adds so much in the way of sim elements, and the game looks gorgerous as your much closer to the field.

              If your a long time Madden fan....IMO this is the Madden we have been waiting for on next gen.

              I can see myself diving into gameplanning big time with the improved gameflow system. I have been using it for 70% of my play calls and I can't wait to customize it and challenge myself to execute the plays as if I am the player and the coach is calling them in. It adds a major element of sim and challenge. Plus when you customize your audibles you can change the play if warrented.

              I have seen DPP at work. Finely got rocked a few times going across the middle for some catches. He dropped both after getting blown up. He then had DPP take effect in dropping wide open passes (he was now hearing footsteps).

              Dude!!!! Are your friggin joking me?

              THIS GAME IS GOING TO ROCK!!!!
              I agree this years Madden has great potential....I can see myself playing it all year which hasn't been the case for about 5-6 years now

              I was sold on the game after playing the demo about 4 times....i haven't played it much since but that's only because i'm not real big demo guy or fan of the Packers or Bears

              With a few tweaks this year I think Madden 12 will hands down be the best football game by EA this year no disrespect to NCAA 12 but it simply doesn't hang with Madden this year IMO
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              • mva5580
                Pro
                • Nov 2004
                • 753

                #997
                Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                Originally posted by Aggies7
                I know I'm late to the party but I prefer the camera angle further away. Allows me to see more of the field and watch the play develop.
                I prefer it further away for passing plays, but not running plays.

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                • SkinsBoYee
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 793

                  #998
                  Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                  Got a couple games in with the Demo last night. Really liked what i saw. I am by no means one that will dissect the footwork of a 70 rated RG and then call for the heads of any and all members of the team that created this game, but I am what I would call a sim player. Meaning, for my enjoyment I want what i play and see to mimick as close as to what I see on Sunday as i can.

                  That being said. Like the gameplay. Smooth is the word that comes to mind. Played on All Pro with some slider tweeks. Loved how the opposing D played. There are some tweeks to be made to sliders, but I will await for the retail to address these, no way would I put it upon a demo to nail gameplay just yet.

                  As far as the cosmetics..the players have never looked better. It kind of reminds me of the first time I saw the new madden on the original playstation back in the day. You know, sort of cartoony, yet utterly lifelike? I can't really explain it. I prefer this, and i think it makes the game look great.

                  FINALLY STAT OVERLAYS seems to be great. Saw a good bit of them...and in various scenarios. This just makes the game more alive...like you are really watching a game. I think past iterations of madden completely blew this, to the point of not even being in the game for some. This brings football to life. I wish there where even more...but at least we are seeing some and the skins of the overlays look great as well. Kudos there EA.

                  What I do wish they did though is can all that pregame stuff. Really...of all of us, who is gonna sit thru each one. Does it even really add to the game? A true halftime / postgame show would have gone to even greater lengths of giving us a true what you see on Sunday feel. The pregame stuff is bogus. Need the halftime stuff. Why not even flash stats at halftime. Again, just something that would draw you into the game more, which is so simple.

                  Lastly...with gameplay this smooth...I simply can not wait to play this game in the Broadcast cam. The walkups and ratio of player size to field in the cam is simply what we have been waiting for, for all players like me who use this camera to give us that game day feel. Yes, I know...how or why people play like this is beyond you. Please, let us spare this repetitive cliche of a statement and revel in what will be the best madden we have ever seen. Its football kids, its almost here. I am as giddy as a little gurrrrlllll.
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                  • JaySmooov
                    Banned
                    • May 2011
                    • 1693

                    #999
                    Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                    Originally posted by SDOTizBak23
                    What slider settings is everyone playing on? I want the most realistic setting of sliders and difficulty should be on all pro or atleast all madden. Thanks! (I want the game to feel like I have a 50/50 chance of winning or losing... Not just downright win or downright get clobbered)
                    I personally play on Slow game speed (This was the default LAST year) with a 30-35 threshold - I think 35 is better.

                    Since the sliders change the difficulty to Rookie for some reason (If you change it back to All-Pro or All-Madden, it resets the USER sliders from what I've seen) I don't mess with them. However I do plan to tinker with the CPU Rush Defense Reaction Time slider to see if the DLinemen breaking off blocks instantly can be toned down.

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                    • illwill10
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 19791

                      #1000
                      Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                      Originally posted by Playmakers
                      I agree this years Madden has great potential....I can see myself playing it all year which hasn't been the case for about 5-6 years now

                      I was sold on the game after playing the demo about 4 times....i haven't played it much since but that's only because i'm not real big demo guy or fan of the Packers or Bears

                      With a few tweaks this year I think Madden 12 will hands down be the best football game by EA this year no disrespect to NCAA 12 but it simply doesn't hang with Madden this year IMO
                      fully agree with everyting you said.
                      I can say that I am excited for Madden(couldnt say that say 05).
                      Only player Demo twice and I am sold. I am not a Demo guy or even Play Now Guy. I really just need a few games to get use to the game and find a good slider set.
                      Really like NCAA, but it doesnt hang with Madden. Presentation, Graphics, Franchise & SS looks great, DPP & Traits. Sure Madden doesnt have things NCAA has(Unique Formations and Offenses, Ability to take Pictures, College Atmosphere, Teambuilder, Coaching Carousel). But I can say I am more excited for Madden

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                      • DJ
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 17756

                        #1001
                        Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                        Originally posted by SkinsBoYee
                        Got a couple games in with the Demo last night. Really liked what i saw. I am by no means one that will dissect the footwork of a 70 rated RG and then call for the heads of any and all members of the team that created this game, but I am what I would call a sim player. Meaning, for my enjoyment I want what i play and see to mimick as close as to what I see on Sunday as i can.

                        That being said. Like the gameplay. Smooth is the word that comes to mind. Played on All Pro with some slider tweeks. Loved how the opposing D played. There are some tweeks to be made to sliders, but I will await for the retail to address these, no way would I put it upon a demo to nail gameplay just yet.

                        As far as the cosmetics..the players have never looked better. It kind of reminds me of the first time I saw the new madden on the original playstation back in the day. You know, sort of cartoony, yet utterly lifelike? I can't really explain it. I prefer this, and i think it makes the game look great.

                        FINALLY STAT OVERLAYS seems to be great. Saw a good bit of them...and in various scenarios. This just makes the game more alive...like you are really watching a game. I think past iterations of madden completely blew this, to the point of not even being in the game for some. This brings football to life. I wish there where even more...but at least we are seeing some and the skins of the overlays look great as well. Kudos there EA.

                        What I do wish they did though is can all that pregame stuff. Really...of all of us, who is gonna sit thru each one. Does it even really add to the game? A true halftime / postgame show would have gone to even greater lengths of giving us a true what you see on Sunday feel. The pregame stuff is bogus. Need the halftime stuff. Why not even flash stats at halftime. Again, just something that would draw you into the game more, which is so simple.

                        Lastly...with gameplay this smooth...I simply can not wait to play this game in the Broadcast cam. The walkups and ratio of player size to field in the cam is simply what we have been waiting for, for all players like me who use this camera to give us that game day feel. Yes, I know...how or why people play like this is beyond you. Please, let us spare this repetitive cliche of a statement and revel in what will be the best madden we have ever seen. Its football kids, its almost here. I am as giddy as a little gurrrrlllll.
                        Broadcast camera is really nice. Does Madden have Coach Mode? I may have to use that mode for one of my franchises this year, because I really like the look of the camera.
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                        • JaySmooov
                          Banned
                          • May 2011
                          • 1693

                          #1002
                          Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                          Originally posted by SkinsBoYee
                          Got a couple games in with the Demo last night. Really liked what i saw. I am by no means one that will dissect the footwork of a 70 rated RG and then call for the heads of any and all members of the team that created this game, but I am what I would call a sim player. Meaning, for my enjoyment I want what i play and see to mimick as close as to what I see on Sunday as i can.

                          That being said. Like the gameplay. Smooth is the word that comes to mind. Played on All Pro with some slider tweeks. Loved how the opposing D played. There are some tweeks to be made to sliders, but I will await for the retail to address these, no way would I put it upon a demo to nail gameplay just yet.

                          As far as the cosmetics..the players have never looked better. It kind of reminds me of the first time I saw the new madden on the original playstation back in the day. You know, sort of cartoony, yet utterly lifelike? I can't really explain it. I prefer this, and i think it makes the game look great.

                          FINALLY STAT OVERLAYS seems to be great. Saw a good bit of them...and in various scenarios. This just makes the game more alive...like you are really watching a game. I think past iterations of madden completely blew this, to the point of not even being in the game for some. This brings football to life. I wish there where even more...but at least we are seeing some and the skins of the overlays look great as well. Kudos there EA.

                          What I do wish they did though is can all that pregame stuff. Really...of all of us, who is gonna sit thru each one. Does it even really add to the game? A true halftime / postgame show would have gone to even greater lengths of giving us a true what you see on Sunday feel. The pregame stuff is bogus. Need the halftime stuff. Why not even flash stats at halftime. Again, just something that would draw you into the game more, which is so simple.

                          Lastly...with gameplay this smooth...I simply can not wait to play this game in the Broadcast cam. The walkups and ratio of player size to field in the cam is simply what we have been waiting for, for all players like me who use this camera to give us that game day feel. Yes, I know...how or why people play like this is beyond you. Please, let us spare this repetitive cliche of a statement and revel in what will be the best madden we have ever seen. Its football kids, its almost here. I am as giddy as a little gurrrrlllll.
                          I agree with everything but the part I bolded.

                          As a guy who lives in Chicago and has never been to a Bears game (yet), I like the intro a LOT. I never even knew they had one, so for me at least, I think it's kind of cool to see it. Now, of course they will get skipped through, but even instant replays get skipped through a lot. You wouldn't go as far as to say that Replay's aren't needed in order to upgrade gameplay slightly, would you?

                          This was the last time I remembered a player intro, and I thought it was AMAZING at the time. 0:05 - 1:30

                          <iframe width="640" height="510" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/kNvoBnUhfC4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                          You can also see how far Madden has come Even if it has taken too long.

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                          • UMhester04
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 1384

                            #1003
                            Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                            Anyone notice the defense only comes out in 1 or 2 formations when you run?

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                            • RumbleStud
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 113

                              #1004
                              Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                              Does anyone know if you can adjust player tendencies in the full game?
                              Last edited by RumbleStud; 08-11-2011, 04:06 PM.

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                              • Aggies7
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 9495

                                #1005
                                Originally posted by DJ
                                Broadcast camera is really nice. Does Madden have Coach Mode? I may have to use that mode for one of my franchises this year, because I really like the look of the camera.
                                Wait can you play the demo in broadcast mode?
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