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  • cocacolaman
    Rookie
    • Jul 2004
    • 198

    #16
    Re: The Little Things (Missed).......

    The CPU never pulling the QB has been crazy for years. I mean in their hockey game once the goalie gives up 4 goals he's gone.

    In my franchise in my first game I had 4 pick 6 by half time and they kept him in. Crazy thing is most of the other teams in franchise are starting their back up qb's ??? I have no idea why that's happening.

    It seams the list of things to fix is a lot longer than what they got right. I've been really disapointed in all of EA's releases this year.

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    • Mike Lowe
      All Star
      • Dec 2006
      • 5286

      #17
      Re: The Little Things (Missed).......

      Perhaps these are small, but they've always driven me crazy:

      -Mishaps such as bad snaps/holds on ST, fumbled snaps under center, a snap going over a punter's head (but STILL have a set % of getting some sort of K away...scramble on the run?!).
      -Penalty calling overhaul so that REAL penalties are called and not just the same 3 and also things like off-setting penalties, multiple penalties on the same play, etc.

      I agree with others about more dynamic commentary that is robust and changes each year, and also about the backup QB being pulled (and perhaps other positions...OL comes to mind).
      Last edited by Mike Lowe; 09-08-2011, 12:54 PM.

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      • statum71
        MVP
        • Nov 2006
        • 1985

        #18
        Re: The Little Things (Missed).......

        Ok...since we're talking "little things" (not a wishlist)
        • It would be nice to see (pre-game) more overlays on the coaches. And the commentators should mention the coaches at times throughout the game.
        • Show key players headed toward the locker room if they're knocked out for the game (or even in question). Make it a suspense....."Oh no...is Peyton coming back in?" NFL drama!!
        • Coaches getting after more than just the QB. Like CB's on busted coverage.
        • Coaches like Andy Reid and Jason Garrett holding the play sheet over his mouth talking into the headset.
        • Can we get the coordinators? It'd be awesome to see Rob Ryan standing near Jason Garrett. Or in the background kneeling down talking to the defense.
        • Players should stop helping guys from the other team up. (I'm sorry, but the NFL is sort of a mean sport) Its rare in real life.
        I know....someone's gonna post "EA needs to focus on gameplay, gameplay, blah, blah..."

        But the OS ask for "little things." Great thread by the way. Things like this are what makes The Show and NBA 2K so great. Keep it up. Hopefully it gets noticed.
        Last edited by statum71; 09-08-2011, 12:52 PM.
        The Lord is my shepard.

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        • Flamehead
          Banned
          • Dec 2002
          • 1501

          #19
          Re: The Little Things (Missed).......

          Peyton Manning's pouty face everytime he comes off the field.










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          • K_GUN
            C*t*z*n *f RSN
            • Jul 2002
            • 3891

            #20
            Re: The Little Things (Missed).......

            great thread

            *revamped challenge system

            *more player nuances---they have the QB/chin strap this year..cool...NOW ADD to that

            *playoff seeding page (start it at week 11)...like that other franchise did years ago

            for my Oak bros.....have the *baseball configuration on the field for home games until early Oct
            Last edited by K_GUN; 09-08-2011, 01:41 PM.
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            • fistofrage
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2002
              • 13682

              #21
              Re: The Little Things (Missed).......

              Originally posted by Mike Lowe
              Perhaps these are small, but they've always driven me crazy:

              -Mishaps such as bad snaps/holds on ST, fumbled snaps under center, a snap going over a punter's head (but STILL have a set % of getting some sort of K away...scramble on the run?!).
              -Penalty calling overhaul so that REAL penalties are called and not just the same 3 and also things like off-setting penalties, multiple penalties on the same play, etc.

              I agree with others about more dynamic commentary that is robust and changes each year, and also about the backup QB being pulled (and perhaps other positions...OL comes to mind).
              This is why I think EA needs to make the online play now game much different from the offline game. The online win at all costs crowd would whine and cry if a bobbled snap on a xtra point or fg cost them the game. The offline sim player would love it.

              The more features like bobbled snaps, cariety of penalties, real fg% option the better IMO. But after seeing the trainwreck that was Fight Night Champion, I know there is no way to please the offline sim gamer and online play now player at the same time.
              Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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              • T5063
                Pro
                • Oct 2010
                • 802

                #22
                Re: The Little Things (Missed).......

                EA need to hire a group of testers who know football and actually test franchise mode, superstar mode etc in order to get rid of all these 'little things' before they ship the game.

                And yes, it would be great if they improved things year to year without breaking/removing other stuff.

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                • Pared
                  Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 39337

                  #23
                  Re: The Little Things (Missed).......

                  Originally posted by T5063
                  EA need to hire a group of testers who know football and actually test franchise mode, superstar mode etc in order to get rid of all these 'little things' before they ship the game.

                  And yes, it would be great if they improved things year to year without breaking/removing other stuff.
                  This has nothing to do with this thread.

                  Post on the topic, please.

                  EVERYONE
                  - If you're frustrated about something - find another outlet. Stop ruining the thread.
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                  • areobee401
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 16771

                    #24
                    Re: The Little Things (Missed).......

                    One little thing they missed was a sideline analyst. Something similar to what 2k does with the NBA franchise. This would be a good way of getting information about the coaches , standings , injuries , pregame/halftime reports , and the like to the user.

                    Also helps with the broadcast aspect of the presentation. The additions EA added this year are great , but still not up to par with The Show , NBA2k , or MLB2k.
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                    • Broncos86
                      Orange and Blue!
                      • May 2009
                      • 5505

                      #25
                      Re: The Little Things (Missed).......

                      Originally posted by areobee401
                      One little thing they missed was a sideline analyst. Something similar to what 2k does with the NBA franchise. This would be a good way of getting information about the coaches , standings , injuries , pregame/halftime reports , and the like to the user.

                      Also helps with the broadcast aspect of the presentation. The additions EA added this year are great , but still not up to par with The Show , NBA2k , or MLB2k.
                      I'm expecting this next year, when they improve their sound and play by play code *cough*.

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                      • MatrixTN
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1857

                        #26
                        Re: The Little Things (Missed).......

                        They have the home/visitor assignments in the Super Bowl reversed. It is supposed to be AFC/NFC for odds & NFC/AFC for evens. Has been backwards since at least '10. On the previous gen consoles the home team was always the team with the better record.

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                        • Brian_OS
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 1905

                          #27
                          Re: The Little Things (Missed).......

                          Thank you all for the input and I hope EA does troll this forum. I like the idea of testing the game beyond just bug discovery. If EA could get real time game play feedback from a small targeted team that would help round out The game.

                          I think the only thing left in this hardware cycle/engine that they can do is tweak the presentation. It looks to me like they started down that road and rushed it leaving commentary as the last thing on ther list.

                          When they say they modeled real broadcasts this year they did but only a shell of what a real broadcast is.When games become predicable it loses steam fast. I think that is something we can all agree on...

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                          • Cards77
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 143

                            #28
                            Re: The Little Things (Missed).......

                            Originally posted by Broncos86
                            Commenting about the commentary is beating a rotting carcass of a horse. We know it's bad, we know EA knows it's bad, and we know commentary is a focus for next year.
                            That's what they always say. So that means commentary will be improved next year and some other area of the game will be busted.

                            Look at how "improved" franchise is this year! Not really but they need some kind of marketing buzz. They are running out of shells to play the shell game with.

                            Seems like "improving" the "running game" has been the focus for 3 years. How about improving the "passing game" so that the ball doesn't magically go through DBs hands and the safeties actually play the ball and their zone instead of just dropping......and dropping....and dropping and getting wider and wider?

                            Or maybe make it so that DBs actually COVER (like in the trailing position) instead of running the route ahead of the WR or getting picked by their own man.

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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #29
                              Re: The Little Things (Missed).......

                              Originally posted by Pared
                              This has nothing to do with this thread.

                              Post on the topic, please.

                              EVERYONE
                              - If you're frustrated about something - find another outlet. Stop ruining the thread.
                              Once again.

                              I don't care if you just joined this forum today or 8 years ago - this is NOT the place for you unleash all your pent up frustration.
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                              • infemous
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 1568

                                #30
                                Re: The Little Things (Missed).......

                                Removal of Strafe on Offense.
                                If this was to stop rocket catch cheese, they failed to address this issue on defense. This makes no sense, defenders have an unfair advantage on offensive players to attack lofted balls. Ruinous for online. Also negates any advantage to a big WR over small DB.

                                Jacked up ratings.
                                It seems now that in order for players to be of any use, their significant attributes must be 90+. This is ridiculous. I can appreciate trying to separate elite from the average, but christ, the average are still professionals..

                                Removal of the Extra Point
                                It sucked, but it was something.

                                QB Drop Backs
                                Why switch the button that stops the auto dropback to backwards? Makes no sense, worked fine pushing forward... encouraged you to step up into the pocket instead of drop back 20 yards by accident.

                                Playbook lack of memory
                                If I'm in my singleback set, and want the bunch WR formation, once a play is selected, it shouldn't revert to the top play of the set, it should stay on the bunch... Hard to explain, but now, basically, after every play, instead of remembering the formation within the set, it moves to the formation at the top. Means constant scrolling. You combine this with...

                                Numbers in formation art in playbook moving

                                This is relly disorientating. It used to just be static images for every set and formation, and now some bright spark decided to have a graphic of them moving? What purpose does this serve? It hurts the eyes and slows it down... I get you want us to use Gameflow, but I refuse, don't punish me for it.

                                Player data bar with picture moving
                                In screens such as Player Management in Franchise, why does the bar with the players portrait, height and weight and experience move when scrolling? It makes it hard to distinguish between spots 1 and 2 on the depth chart for example... it's an eyesore and unnecessary. Design person for M12 was slipping in the worst way. Don't know WHO thought that'd be a good idea. Complete waste of resources.

                                Shoulder pad issue
                                People commented that early screenshots made the players look too beefy... they said they toned it down, the game comes out and the shoulder pad issue is still there.

                                So many more issues, but I cba...

                                What I find is for every good feature brought in, 5 or 6 seemingly insignificant good features, or refined elements of the game are removed or trashed.
                                It's sloppy workmanship and an indication of a lack of thought and care.
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