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  • Smoke6
    MVP
    • Apr 2011
    • 1454

    #46
    Re: End of Console Generations is Not an Excuse for No Innovation

    Originally posted by rgiles36
    Coincidently, Madden '95 was my very first Madden. Maybe my memory doesn't serve me correctly: what features were in M95 that we don't have (and need) in 2012?

    Look man, I'm completely over the first five years of this generation. If you want to continue to harp on it and hold EA accountable, by all means, have at it. I'm of the belief that leads to more personal frustration than it does anything else, but I digress.


    it even sounds way better than any madden we have received this gen just from the description on the back. To tell you the truth, just reading had me immersed and now I wanna go grab me a genesis from somewhere!

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    • wat3
      Rookie
      • Nov 2011
      • 89

      #47
      Originally posted by mcmax3000
      From what I was able to find, it goes through 2013, meaning that Madden 14 would be the last game under the current deal...

      But yes, they're likely just going to extend.
      Thanks. I did some research of my own and was finding different answers from different sources. Some websites said Madden 13 is the last one and some sites said it runs to Madden 14 so I'm still a bit confused. Thanks for the reply.

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      • swiftychampleone
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        • Dec 2008
        • 328

        #48
        There's a huge group of sim-gamers that feels that the PS2 versions of Madden 07-10 played much better that the current-gen counterparts? Sure, it's not in HD graphics but the gameplay mechanics are way better and simpler? I have a PS3 and STILL have no current-gen Madden. I need a football fix so badly that I've been looking at Madden 10 on PS2 and contemplating buying it. I mean, I have Madden 07, but it's TOO outdated.
        Whatever you do, don't give constructive criticism or say anything negative about Madden video games! It seems to be the equivalent of a felony...

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        • JerseySuave4
          Banned
          • Mar 2006
          • 5152

          #49
          it's especially not an excuse when your excuse for the mediocre games and not including things in games have been "next year" or "we're working on it in the future." Then the new systems come out and they use the fact that they are still learning the systems as their new excuse.

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          • avwhitechic
            A DB'S SWAG
            • Jun 2011
            • 264

            #50
            Re: End of Console Generations is Not an Excuse for No Innovation

            Originally posted by mestevo
            Just more of the same, as if EA finds millions of new customers every year (they dont), and invoking the sacred 2k5 (again, will be happy when the sticky rules are finally enforced again). You'd think the gameplay has been the same since Madden 06 by many of the posts here, of course many probably consider Madden a roster update and little more every year which is probably the least genuine statement anyone can make.

            If we get half as many improvements to 13 as we saw in 12, many here will be pretty happy - but we have no idea what they've done with 13 yet, but this gen has been written off, nothing to see here.

            I would have expected the "can you be objective..." thread to come from a staff member and this thread created by one of the many jaded who post here, not the other way around.

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            • bobtrain
              Baseball King
              • Sep 2011
              • 331

              #51
              Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
              Much like the NCAA series, the Madden series spent this whole generation playing catch up to the last generation. Adding features we already had last generation back into this generation as new features, when in reality it wasn't.

              This generation was nothing but the HD generation for EA Tiborun, because the only thing they improved upon was the graphics and online stability. Game play has been at a stand still for 6 years now.

              If it wasn't for online, most people wouldn't even buy Madden or NCAA. And that is the sad truth of it all.
              Agree. Madden has a long history of removing features only to add them back in and call them new. I'm sure everyone one can recall when Madden recently added officials and field goal nets back into the game. Remember when Madden coded the game so if you called the same play multiple times that the CPU would read and react better each time. I'm not sure how it actually executed, but it was the little things the dev teams of old added to the game that made this one of the best franchises in the 90's and early 00's.

              It's also sad to see John Madden (the guy who the game is named after) have less of an impact. I believe his insight into the football world has hurt this madden franchise over the years as now you have the "gaming" community pushing this product vs. the "football" community. I see more exploiting of "money" plays now and less football technique used. The philosophy of gaining leisure fans to increase sales has made simulation die. It's sad.
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              • misterkrabz
                Banned
                • Feb 2011
                • 610

                #52
                Originally posted by Profit89
                This series needs to move to the PC if they want to be taken seriously.
                I couldn't imagine playing a sports game on a PC (small monitor, generic controller or god forbid the keyboard, a bazillion hacks/cracks/cheats)...couldn't disagree more. No thanks.

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                • Gotmadskillzson
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                  • Apr 2008
                  • 23441

                  #53
                  Re: End of Console Generations is Not an Excuse for No Innovation

                  Originally posted by misterkrabz
                  I couldn't imagine playing a sports game on a PC (small monitor, generic controller or god forbid the keyboard, a bazillion hacks/cracks/cheats)...couldn't disagree more. No thanks.
                  You could hook a PC to any size HDTV, whether it be plasma, LCD, LED or DLP, hell you can even hook it up to a HD projector and play on a 300 inch screen if you wanted to. Also you can use a regular XBox 360 controller with PC games as well.

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                  • The_Gaming_Disciple
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                    • Jul 2011
                    • 366

                    #54
                    Looking forward to next Tuesday when the official gameplay for NCAA will be unveiled. I know these forums as well as other game sites for college football will be on FIRE!!!
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                    • ch46647
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 3515

                      #55
                      Re: End of Console Generations is Not an Excuse for No Innovation

                      Originally posted by The_Gaming_Disciple
                      Looking forward to next Tuesday when the official gameplay for NCAA will be unveiled. I know these forums as well as other game sites for college football will be on FIRE!!!
                      I hope so. But unless they come out with pretty much an entire new game engine. I think most people will just be looking at it as "same old, same old."

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                      • Errors Occurred
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 360

                        #56
                        Re: End of Console Generations is Not an Excuse for No Innovation

                        Originally posted by misterkrabz
                        I couldn't imagine playing a sports game on a PC (small monitor, generic controller or god forbid the keyboard, a bazillion hacks/cracks/cheats)...couldn't disagree more. No thanks.
                        That was a joke right? I believe Madden would be great for PC because the little things that are not right in the game can be fixed and made even better.

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                        • mestevo
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                          • Apr 2010
                          • 19556

                          #57
                          Re: End of Console Generations is Not an Excuse for No Innovation

                          I think in the last 3 years or more the Xbox 360 controller has become the 'default gamepad', thanks in part to the consolitis of PC titles and number of ports most likely.

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                          • Profit89
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 612

                            #58
                            Originally posted by misterkrabz
                            I couldn't imagine playing a sports game on a PC (small monitor, generic controller or god forbid the keyboard, a bazillion hacks/cracks/cheats)...couldn't disagree more. No thanks.
                            This must be a joke.

                            I have my PC Rig hooked up to my 50" LED in the living room, with xbox360 controllers. Please don't compare a console, now or any future console, to a PC. A PC will smoke, and will always smoke, any console.

                            If you want to bring in the cost argument, then that's different. Because that's really the only argument that could be made in favour of a console (ie, the lower cost). Other than that, the PC crushes the console in every way imaginable.

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                            • SageInfinite
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 11896

                              #59
                              Re: End of Console Generations is Not an Excuse for No Innovation

                              Originally posted by Profit89
                              This must be a joke.

                              I have my PC Rig hooked up to my 50" LED in the living room, with xbox360 controllers. Please don't compare a console, now or any future console, to a PC. A PC will smoke, and will always smoke, any console.

                              If you want to bring in the cost argument, then that's different. Because that's really the only argument that could be made in favour of a console (ie, the lower cost). Other than that, the PC crushes the console in every way imaginable.
                              I don't even own a pc and I agree with this. The only thing for me is some of the games and series I really like are on console only. Other than that I totally agree.
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                              • DCEBB2001
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                                • Nov 2008
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                                #60
                                Re: End of Console Generations is Not an Excuse for No Innovation

                                Originally posted by misterkrabz
                                I couldn't imagine playing a sports game on a PC (small monitor, generic controller or god forbid the keyboard, a bazillion hacks/cracks/cheats)...couldn't disagree more. No thanks.
                                PLEASE tell me you are only 1% serious...
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