Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

[AllJuicedUp]

So just to clarify... we can't bring in edited rosters into CC (or edit rosters while in our CC) because they "ran out of time"

It's one thing to make terrible terrible terrible game design choices, like say removing the ability to play as multiple franchises or play with edited rosters, and then to lie about it with the lame excuse that they didn't have time to add it in... really? You mean you didn't have time to NOT REMOVE features we've had for years?

I can't wait till these features are brought back in a future Madden and advertised on the back of the box!

[secondsolution]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

I honestly don't know why everyone is so pumped about Madden. What is it that everyone see's? I see a messy RTP engine along with the same thing I've seen since 2011. Out of all the games I've watched on youtube, nothing has really stood out to me. Not one thing. Can someone explain to me why this Madden is so much better than last years?

I'm excited about it because of CC, all of the stuff that has been taken out doesn't bother me. I'm just looking forward to playing an indepth career mode.

[Bigmac612]

Can't agree there either, the new Locomotion and overall step backwards in M11 made me not even purchase the game after playing the demo. I only kept M12 for a month after the frustrating walk on FAs that flooded the franchise, poor FA system & pretty bad importing of NCAA rosters in Franchise Mode...different strokes for different folks I guess because those were deal-breakers for me. But with that track record, I seriously doubt he would have done a lot more good, especially since he started this whole oblivious act when well known issues with the game were brought up to him, along with a few snide remarks to the community. He started off well but quickly lost focus under the criticism during & after M11 unfortunately.

It was most likely Looman's decision and Weber agreed to it, I just don't see Ian caring that much post M10 either way, especially since he tried to tell us Franchise wasn't used much in Madden in the first place.

I agree with everything everyone says about Ian and his direction..i said i thought Mike Young was the right guy...my major gripe i guess, is Ian was alot more upfront on issues and why things were the way they were...these guys here, well you barely get a peep outta them...i just want a detailed logical explanation on why you take out such an instrumental part of the game, thats all

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[SkillzKillz719]

Stupid. But I have GameFly, so I'll rent this either way.

[HammerOfGod]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

I honestly don't know why everyone is so pumped about Madden. What is it that everyone see's? I see a messy RTP engine along with the same thing I've seen since 2011. Out of all the games I've watched on youtube, nothing has really stood out to me. Not one thing. Can someone explain to me why this Madden is so much better than last years?

New bells and whistles. Many on this board and many more who are not in the hardcore group go apes*** every year when the first round of info. comes out for this game. Same goes for the hardcore NCAA gamers as well.

Then as the game gets closer to release and especially after release, many here realize that this is an EA Sports game, therefore there are huge gaping wounds (flaws) in it, and it's FUBAR.

[Playmakers]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

editing, especially the base roster you take into CC, has a huge impact on gameplay.

most of these guys are online players.....

they could give a rats a$$ at how the CPU plays for offline players like myself.

I have intentions or desire to play online and to me having the ability to re-rate CPU players so that they perform better on the field during a offline franchise was huge for me in Madden 12.

I don't think that EA's default rosters give us the best possible gameplay on the field and this is why not being to edit players ratings is a huge downer for me.

[bichettehappens]

I honestly don't know why everyone is so pumped about Madden. What is it that everyone see's? I see a messy RTP engine along with the same thing I've seen since 2011. Out of all the games I've watched on youtube, nothing has really stood out to me. Not one thing. Can someone explain to me why this Madden is so much better than last years?

Ok, I'll take the bait.

1. The "messy(?)" physics engine, despite a few minor missteps I've seen here and there in the E3 vids, looks like it's giving us the most realistic contact & tackling results in the history of the franchise.

2. Variable pass trajectories is a big one for me, as I've been bitten many times by a dump-off pass in the face of a blitz either resulting in a bullet pass off my RBs helmet or a floater landing out of bounds.

3. The game just continues to look more fantastic every year. The field finally looks like a football field, without the random "oil spills" of years past. The HDR lighting is actually a quietly big thing for me since I like to document my franchise on here, as in the past the shadows made my game pics for night or overcast games come out too dark. Not to mention the new broadcast elements, absolutely love that the entire starting lineup is shown now for example. The little things like that I find endearing.

4a. They removed the UDFAs and now allow editing of the accelerated clock within CCM - these were the main barriers preventing me from a long-running M12 franchise.

4b. The improvements to scouting, AI via team-specific overalls and schemes, storylines and the overall life and presentation of the career mode will allow me to be more immersed than ever. I've had to create storylines myself in prior years in order to hold my interest in such a bland mode; it's about time the game does some of that for me.

These are all major improvements for me, I could list more but these are some of the core aspects that appeal to me. Sure, I'd like to have the ability to edit numbers and equipment if I so choose, and wouldn't mind having the other stuff added back in, but for me there is a lot to be excited about with M13 that I can overlook some of the minor things I'm losing out on. But I understand they're not minor for everyone.

Edited to add: also the removal of the old progression system is a big improvement for me.

[Bigmac612]

Have we even seen video on how these storylines work?? Why are ppl so sold on that...you dont even know how immersive they are...they could just be some bland redundant storylines...

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[LSX]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Its funny that this is exactly the sort of thing I have come to expect from EA, and specifically Madden. Its even funnier that the fanboys act like its no big deal and think it will be the greatest Madden yet. Because Madden has proven that their new features always work as advertised.....riiiiiiight. I used to be a loyal Madden fanboy years ago when they were making great games on the last gen consoles. Oh how times have changed.

I'm praying for the day that EA loses their exclusive license, or at least the day that they hire a team of devs with a lick of sense.

[DeuceDouglas]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Its funny that this is exactly the sort of thing I have come to expect from EA, and specifically Madden. Its even funnier that the fanboys act like its no big deal and think it will be the greatest Madden yet. Because Madden has proven that their new features always work as advertised.....riiiiiiight. I used to be a loyal Madden fanboy years ago when they were making great games on the last gen consoles. Oh how times have changed.

I'm praying for the day that EA loses their exclusive license, or at least the day that they hire a team of devs with a lick of sense.

If not being affected or devastated by things not in the game makes me a fanboy, then I guess I'm a fanboy.

[bichettehappens]

Have we even seen video on how these storylines work?? Why are ppl so sold on that...you dont even know how immersive they are...they could just be some bland redundant storylines...

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The link in this post has a couple screenshots, although I'm hoping some of the names are debugging text, like Looman has referred to about a lot of the screens they've shown lol

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043742519

[themassacre771.1]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

The link in this post has a couple screenshots, although I'm hoping some of the names are debugging text, like Looman has referred to about a lot of the screens they've shown lol

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043742519

"Mark Fightmaster" This is why we need to be able to edit. Come on with these dumb names.

[Bigmac612]

The link in this post has a couple screenshots, although I'm hoping some of the names are debugging text, like Looman has referred to about a lot of the screens they've shown lol

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043742519

But that ish looks no different than what NBA2K does with their association mode...if thats all their is to it..im disappointed, honestly

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[LSX]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

If not being affected or devastated by things not in the game makes me a fanboy, then I guess I'm a fanboy.

If it doesn't bother you and you're truly excited about the game and actually expect EA to deliver on all the hype, I'm happy for you. If all the new features actually work like we hope, great. Time will tell. But you can't honestly tell me that stuff like this is excusable in any way, shape, or form. Sorry but I'm tired of Madden's BS. I still hold the game to a high standard, as crazy as that sounds nowadays.

[DeuceDouglas]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

If it doesn't bother you and you're truly excited about the game and actually expect EA to deliver on all the hype, I'm happy for you. If all the new features actually work like we hope, great. Time will tell. But you can't honestly tell me that stuff like this is excusable in any way, shape, or form. Sorry but I'm tired of Madden's BS. I still hold the game to a high standard, as crazy as that sounds nowadays.

I wouldn't say it's excusable, especially so when it comes to the ability to change rosters. But if it would have only made it in broken this year, I'd just prefer it not to be in.