Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

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  • skabatula
    Banned
    • Aug 2010
    • 205

    #751
    Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

    Originally posted by CRMosier_LM
    I can't speak for all leagues but every successful one I have been in or seen has a forum set up either on a public site or a private one. OS supports leagues, DLG supports leagues, TSO supports leagues. i would say stick with one of those where the support is good. OS has an Online Franchise forum in this Madden section. Say we play week one and it is Monday, the league may advance on say Thursday. You and I have until then to get a time where we can both be available to play. Usually those leagues have a forum on the site for scheduling games. So i would post something like this:

    "Browns here, when can you get this in? I'm available from 8pm est til midnight everyday. text, email, or private message me and lets do this."

    Off topic I know, sorry.
    Thanks...gotcha.

    Carry on, good people.

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    • SteelerSpartan
      MVP
      • Apr 2007
      • 2884

      #752
      Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

      Originally posted by skabatula
      I saw this as well. But there was no time table for its return. We don't know for sure it will be in before Madden 14.
      Or if it will be fully Back....Like maybe they let you edit some equipment next but we don't get complete ratings customization and Positions changes back for 2-4 years
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      • skabatula
        Banned
        • Aug 2010
        • 205

        #753
        Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

        Originally posted by SteelerSpartan
        Or if it will be fully Back....Like maybe they let you edit some equipment next but we don't get complete ratings customization and Positions changes back for 2-4 years
        True.

        I'm not as concerned with player editing as I am roster editing.

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        • PGaither84
          MVP
          • Mar 2009
          • 4393

          #754
          Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

          I wasn't going to buy Madden 12, but when Feb rolled around, I broke down and bought it. Looks like I didn't completely waste my money as I will be playing for the next year.
          My Madden Blog

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          • Tweeg
            MVP
            • Jul 2008
            • 1414

            #755
            Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

            I can't wait to see what else has been removed as we get closer to August.

            I'm guessing you can't challenge calls on the field anymore because of RTP. I would also not be surprised to see play captains removed.
            Prototype Supreme

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            • bucky60
              Banned
              • Jan 2008
              • 3288

              #756
              Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

              Originally posted by CRMosier_LM
              You are just assuming. Or let me guess... you are much better at making games then they are right?!?
              I'm making assumptions from 30+ years of actual software design and implementation, including some very complex simulations. The practices I talk about are actual practices that have been used for those 30+ years.

              Are you the same guy that last year tried to tell me I don't know anything about compilers and linkers and portable code?

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              • mestevo
                Gooney Goo Goo
                • Apr 2010
                • 19556

                #757
                Originally posted by bucky60
                I'm making assumptions from 30+ years of actual software design and implementation, including some very complex simulations. The practices I talk about are actual practices that have been used for those 30+ years.

                Are you the same guy that last year tried to tell me I don't know anything about compilers and linkers and portable code?
                That's nice, but makes no difference outside the context of the effort it took to go from 12 to 13. Obviously there's more to it than your expertise would lead you to believe or it would have made it in.

                Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

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                • moylan1234
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 3946

                  #758
                  Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                  Originally posted by mestevo
                  That's nice, but makes no difference outside the context of the effort it took to go from 12 to 13. Obviously there's more to it than your expertise would lead you to believe or it would have made it in.

                  Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
                  Not necessarily in M12 they finally added full editing and we were told the process took 10 minutes, but they still waited all those years to put it in

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                  • DNMHIII
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2355

                    #759
                    Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                    Originally posted by mestevo
                    That's nice, but makes no difference outside the context of the effort it took to go from 12 to 13. Obviously there's more to it than your expertise would lead you to believe or it would have made it in.

                    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
                    It didn't make it in because it's terrible design decisions plain and simple. If editing creates bugs you already shot yourself in the foot for designing something that creates bugs that you've stated was important and will be back in at some point. Editing was important to people and it was in the game last year and if it creats bugs in this build or they just decided they didn't want to allow it then the design or the decision are both terrible IMO.

                    You really don't need 30 years of design experience to figure out that if you want to build a car with a smooth ride you just cant allow square wheels to be brought into the design you know.
                    Last edited by DNMHIII; 06-13-2012, 12:28 PM.

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                    • da ThRONe
                      Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 8528

                      #760
                      Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                      This is mostly an issue because they are so awful at rating players. I really don't understand the movement to take so much control from the gamer.
                      You looking at the Chair MAN!

                      Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                      • bucky60
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 3288

                        #761
                        Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                        Originally posted by mestevo
                        That's nice, but makes no difference outside the context of the effort it took to go from 12 to 13. Obviously there's more to it than your expertise would lead you to believe or it would have made it in.

                        Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
                        Doesn't change that if editing rosters breaks the storyline, then it wasn't designed correctly.

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                        • moneal2001
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 835

                          #762
                          Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                          dnmhii with all your game programming and design wisdom you should start a football game company. games are always buggy there are too many moving parts to design one without them. all the best designing in the world wouldn't prevent things from just not working together correctly.

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                          • DMorganU44
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 89

                            #763
                            Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                            Originally posted by da ThRONe
                            This is mostly an issue because they are so awful at rating players. I really don't understand the movement to take so much control from the gamer.
                            Online experience...

                            Originally posted by moneal2001
                            dnmhii with all your game programming and design wisdom you should start a football game company. games are always buggy there are too many moving parts to design one without them. all the best designing in the world wouldn't prevent things from just not working together correctly.
                            How? Only EA can make a NFL or NCAA game...

                            If MLB The Show or NBA 2k can give so much control, there´s no excuse for EA. At least in my mind as a non fanboy or anti-EA consumer.
                            Last edited by DMorganU44; 06-13-2012, 12:43 PM.

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                            • TreFacTor
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 1138

                              #764
                              Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                              Originally posted by da ThRONe
                              This is mostly an issue because they are so awful at rating players. I really don't understand the movement to take so much control from the gamer.
                              My best guess is that it (the removed features) would have been fine offline, but they couldn't get it to function properly online and since they want all modes to be synonymous, they decided to ditch it altogether.
                              Proud Beta tester for NFL 2K Dreamcast
                              "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."

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                              • mestevo
                                Gooney Goo Goo
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 19556

                                #765
                                Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                                Originally posted by DNMHIII
                                It didn't make it in because it's terrible design decisions plain and simple. If editing creates bugs you already shot yourself in the foot for designing something that creates bugs that you've stated was important and will be back in at some point. Editing was important to people and it was in the game last year and if it creats bugs in this build or they just decided they didn't want to allow it then the design or the decision are both terrible IMO.

                                You really don't need 30 years of design experience to figure out that if you want to build a car with a smooth ride you just cant allow square wheels to be brought into the design you know.
                                The scope of the problem is more along the lines of a different size tire. The ride will be plenty smooth for the vast majority of drivers.

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