Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

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  • Icarus2k9
    Rookie
    • Jul 2009
    • 118

    #106
    Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

    Originally posted by PhillyJim76
    So let me ask this, if I buy Madden and want to play a franchise with the Eagles in 2012, I have no choice but to deal with Kurt Warner coming back and have to deal with fake college players in the draft. No choice, this is what I have to do?
    Unless they have Kurt Warner be one of several options of comebacks (Brett Favre, Tiki Barber spring to mind) that's it. If you prefer your storylines to be borne from your years of NCAA production, you're not getting it.
    Last edited by Icarus2k9; 06-11-2012, 09:27 PM. Reason: Didn't know you could turn off comebacks. I am the bad information man.

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    • nelia8629
      Rookie
      • Jun 2012
      • 2

      #107
      Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

      So i cant trade a player before the CC and carry it over???and no NCAA imports???

      IS THIS TRUE????????????????/

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      • kjjnesb
        Pro
        • Jun 2007
        • 844

        #108
        Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

        It has become more and more evident that CC is an online first mode as very little consideration has been given to the offline gamers.

        And I'm not buying the not enough time excuse they've blatantly sacrificed consumer functionality for scripted storylines and events that would most likely be broken if we we're to edit our own roster or create our own rookies in mass.

        So in Madden 13 with imports gone no pre/in CC roster edits I can essentially only have one created player in the entire damn mode.... That is not a revolutionary career mode that is several steps backwards and signs of an unfinished mode.
        Last edited by kjjnesb; 06-11-2012, 09:31 PM.

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        • speedy9386
          Pro
          • Mar 2009
          • 828

          #109
          Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

          Does anyone know if the ratings are still expanded?

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          • StanleyStutters
            Rookie
            • Jun 2012
            • 321

            #110
            Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

            Originally posted by Knickerbocker
            Wow. Madden finaly adds all these great features and all most of you care is roster editing? Also from what I've read the official rosters players are now lower rated ... Jeez ...
            It's not just the roster editing, for most people it is a combination of things. Yes, the CC mode looks like it has some real potential and the new engine looks great, but in the process we have lost several features.

            Roster editing was an enjoyable feature that I think a lot of people used. Even if they just let us fix the equipment & numbers of players I think people would be happier.

            Multiple team control is another missing feature. This pretty much leaves people playing on the same console with one option and that's Play Now mode. Everything else you have to do alone.

            Importing draft classes and RTG players is gone as well. It was great to have the ability to use players for four years in NCAA then transfer them over to Madden. This also allowed people with edited rosters in NCAA to get actual college players in the Madden games.

            My personal favorite feature couch co-op is gone. I've been playing Franchise mode in Madden for as long as I can remember and the best part was playing couch co-op games with friends and family members.

            I'm not denying that Madden has added some nice new features, but they've taken away some great ones in the process.

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            • scottyo60
              Pro
              • Oct 2008
              • 499

              #111
              I have bought Madden since Sega days, but gotta pass this year. I'm all about editing and expanding ratings to make a difference. I'll stick with 10. Best $4 purchase I made in a long time.

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              • khaliib
                MVP
                • Jan 2005
                • 2878

                #112
                Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                This isn't a bash against Donny, but he simply "Does Not" know how rate players within their programming logic to get them to perform in a realistic manner.

                One person to judge/decide the perspective on how a Specific Position should react/behave in their game, is just ........!!!

                For years the Gaming Community has supplied suggestions w/video's to help utilize their ratings and the manner in which they are programmed to drive animations, to get the most Realistic Gameplay possible.

                Since being on Next-Gen for 7 yrs now, this valuable information has fallen on "Deaf" ears although they love to use the tag line "We listened to the community" during their marketing hype phase.

                The Negative response isn't just comming from the OS Forum, it's being voiced from every Gaming Forum and social platform available.

                "We didn't have time" is simply Horse-pucky because it's already there, it's just "LOCKED" to the gamer.

                That's right, they've simply chosen to LOCKED it from the gamer.

                If there was a real/logical issue that would arise from allowing Player Ratings Editing and the possibliltiy of problems on the Infinity Engine, then it wouldn't be available for Play Now games, period!!!

                It's one thing to force the gaming community to play from the developer's chosen camera angles, but to force gamers to play football from the perspective of "ONE" person is revealing about how they view the Football Gaming Fanbase.

                Control and Profits!!!

                I had high praise for the Madden Developement and the introduction of a Physics Based System, but to spend $60 on one man's perspective of football, is just _________!

                Especially when his roster's has "Always" needed some type of adjusting/editing to make the game play somewhat close to each gamer's perspective of football.

                I'll rent as always dealing with any EA Sports game, just to see what the Infinity Engine looks like, but without any ability to edit ratings myself within CC, I'm not going to buy off of "Wishfull" thinking knowing it's plain as day what will arise after release.

                I simply want another developer to take a shot at bringing us some Authentic Football at this point.
                Just make it Fully Customizable w/out gimmicks, and I'll buy it just cause.

                Really!!!!

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                • Reggie16
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 834

                  #113
                  Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                  Man oh man, just when we think madden is turning the corner, they Eff something up, this is a big time eff up. I am disgusted. No madden for me, looks like ill just be playing ncaa 13.
                  NBA: Los AngelesLakers 2009-2010 World Champions
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                  OaklandRaiders

                  Patiently Wating.....Madden 12, Ncaa 12

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                  • SA1NT401
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 3498

                    #114
                    Originally posted by bpac55
                    This is also a direct quote from the Madden Presentation article

                    By popular demand! Here are some of the new facemasks that have been added to the game...

                    Mixing and matching the new NIKE uniforms, cleats, face masks, sleeves and other yet to be released gear will keep me and many gamers out there in edit player for hours.



                    found here....
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                    GREAT find.


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                    • Knickerbocker
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 508

                      #115
                      Oh well, I'm prolly biased since I play online franchise only. And this year this mode surpases same mode of any other sport game. I'm excited as hell, but yes it suck for offline gamers,
                      “If you meet the Buddha in the lane, feed him the ball.”-Phil Jackson

                      “I never thought I’d lead the NBA in rebounding, but I got a lot of help from my team-mates – they did a lot of missing.”-Moses Malone

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                      • RGiles36
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 3957

                        #116
                        Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                        Well, I guess this is a case of taking the good with the bad. The bad, of course, being that we can't edit our OWN rosters & take them into franchise. The good, to a degree, is that we can use Donny's rosters in our franchise.

                        I'm ok with Donny's rosters as long as they continue to provide player authenticity (equipment, facemasks, etc). They've done a good job w/ making players appear true to life the last two years. It'll only suck if say real life Dez Bryant stops wearing a visor and alas, I won't be able to fix it. Ugh...
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                        • BurghFan
                          #BurghProud
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 10042

                          #117
                          Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                          Steve, I had to like your original post solely for you choice of screenshot

                          Anyway, as has been said before, if we can only used edited roster in Play Now, then you might as well not have them at all. I couldn't even tell you the last time I played a play now game. My general routine is to wait until the end preseason/start regular season rosters come out then jump right into my franchise. Also, I couldn't care less about messing with what different Nike equipment players are wearing.
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                          • Knickerbocker
                            Pro
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 508

                            #118
                            And Khaliib I agree it sucks for the offline players, but do not talk for the "majority". Madden as most sports games has at least the same number of online players if not more. OS has a large majority in offline, but that is OS.
                            “If you meet the Buddha in the lane, feed him the ball.”-Phil Jackson

                            “I never thought I’d lead the NBA in rebounding, but I got a lot of help from my team-mates – they did a lot of missing.”-Moses Malone

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                            • SA1NT401
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 3498

                              #119
                              Originally posted by Icarus2k9
                              It's getting to the point where we have to accept EA want the quirky obsessed Madden crowd to just go away now, please. A long time ago I remember someone from EA commenting on here that they didn't want their franchise modes to resemble databases, because that wasn't interesting, and if they were going to bring depth into Madden franchise they were going to do it their way. (Sorry for horrible paraphrasing and even worse memory).

                              This is just a little glimpse of the result of that drive. I just feel they honestly don't understand or would even want to understand why someone would spend hours and hours painstakingly editing their franchise to get it accurate to the last player. Heck, most football fans don't know the backups of their favourite teams, let alone the 53rd man. But Peyton Manning has his face and throwing motion and cadence, AMIRITE?

                              For years, people have attempted to make franchise modes as immersive as possible by tinkering and editing and writing storylines for themselves and setting house rules and all sorts of crazy behaviours...because these guys want that from their games. Now EA have the choice to finally deliver the immersion on their terms, but it's like they don't understand why those obsessive players won't abandon their well worn and well loved ways, or why those gamers don't trust them to deliver accuracy.

                              I'll admit, I'm absolutely stoked for CCM. For the level I follow the sport at it's going to push my buttons in very satisfying ways. But my goodness, are they betting the house on their rosters being perfect, their progression system being awesome and their draft classes and trade logic being sublime.

                              Because we now have no way of helping them any more. Well, it's that or 32 team online franchise, which is an odd direction to push us in because I'm sure they used to say online franchise was untouched because who could get a 32 team league going in the real world?
                              BRAVO my friend ... Bravo.


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                              • jerwoods
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 2997

                                #120
                                Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Clarification

                                Originally posted by Steve_OS
                                Yes, you can.
                                Steve btw I love this place i wish i couild be more positive about these sports games but i just got a new PS3 in march and my NBA 2k12 just stop playing i think i cleaned it too much I know the Madden team works very hard on these games i just am disappointing is all

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