Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

[Yeats]

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This is way way off. Forget about just Madden the vast majority of sports gamers in general care about this feature otherwise every major sports title wouldn't include it in their games. It's a feature that reaches across the entire community. From the hardcore crowd that wants rosters exactly how they are in the NFL to the little kid who wants to put all the Sesame Street characters in the game as 99 ovrs. It's one of the features that's all encompassing in terms of the demographic. Of course there are people that don't touch it all, but that doesn't change the fact that in 2012 it's a necessary part of any sports game

I disagree, certainly when it comes to Madden gamers. The typical Madden gamer doesn't care about anything other than making sure they have the latest rosters in order to play online. This franchise for years now has been geared towards the online/arcade gaming crowd. And they certainly don't care about player rating editing.

[Bigmac612]

Wtf do ppl not get abt ppl wanting ncaa imports...what is this "id rather have fake guys with storylines bs"???

Do you not get that when i play with a guy and see other guys from my dynasty for 4 years...i already know their ups and downs im completely immersed into them...they already have their own storylines based off that cause you actually SAW their collegiate career develop!!!

So when you import them in madden and see your guy and other guys you played with or against..it gives you a WAYYYYY better feeling of being immersed because you actually PLAYED as them or against them for a whole 4yrs in NCAA, so imo its much more better than some random guy with a random storyline you know nothing about...watch!, these so called "storylines" are going to be soooooooo generic...if they cared at all..they would atleast gave us the ability to edit our own draft classes...what do ppl not get about this??...say that a class of fake players you have no connection to just other than scouting them than players you have played with or against for 4yrs, won awards and championships with is just ABSURD.....



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[RynoAid]

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My problem with this is that josh looman is bring arrogant and not addressing the community with " we ran out of time" well explain what had to be done to get it in. And if it was in what bug did it create that would ruin the whole game.

I just think he has that I created the mode and it's awesome attitude and anyone that questions his mode he shuts out. Well if you are in the business of selling a product you don't do that. You explain why something is and how it could benefit the person buying it. Explain how having roster edit this year can create a gaming bug in the mode and what it would do.

My thinking is that when you edit rosters in the mode or bring in an edit roster it bugs the storylines and kills the CC mode to a point it is not functional. I'm thinking once you change or edit anything the Storyline tag to each player disappear.

But lucy you have some "seplaining" to do

As a programmer myself, i think your probably pretty close to what i would guess as to why edited rosters and draft classes are not in CCM.

As for Josh.. meeting him several times and corresponding with him, the last word that comes to mind is arrogant. I think when you have to communicate with as many people as he does, it's difficult to make everyone feel important though and sometimes maybe it comes off that way.

I know he has expressed to me that he wants to add things the right way going forward with this CCM mode. Maybe that's driving the delay.

[moylan1234]

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I disagree, certainly when it comes to Madden gamers. The typical Madden gamer doesn't care about anything other than making sure they have the latest rosters in order to play online. This franchise for years now has been geared towards the online/arcade gaming crowd. And they certainly don't care about player rating editing.

I'm talking about editing in general which is the topic of this thread and you only speak for yourself on these boards you have no idea what the typical Madden gamer does with their game

[wheelman990]

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I disagree, certainly when it comes to Madden gamers. The typical Madden gamer doesn't care about anything other than making sure they have the latest rosters in order to play online. This franchise for years now has been geared towards the online/arcade gaming crowd. And they certainly don't care about player rating editing.

Completely false. Just look up old threads and comments all over the internet man. Even casual Madden players tweet, visit forums, and visit youtube!!!

And the casual player wants to edit up his favorite players like superman.

Online is not as popular as so many like to think. Not even the majority have xbox live gold! Some not even a ISP! Those are the more hardcore players online. To be honest I think most casual players trade in Madden after a month anyway. The ones I know did.

[penacho]

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I'm sure this is mentioned somewhere in this thread, but I didn't find it. In what video, podcast, tweet, or interview did Josh Looman say we couldn't edit a player's number?

In online franchise we could only edit the number and it made sense to me. I don't see how changing the number would mess with a story.

Looman talks a lot about immersion and I respect him for doing his emphasis on immersion. He's got to realize if I'm the Dolphins I don't want a #13 on the roster. If I trade for Tebow, I want to change Bess' number and give Tebow #15, too. If I can't do those things, I'm not immersed in the "reality."

Thanks to anyone who can give me a source!

[jpollard25]

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I disagree, certainly when it comes to Madden gamers. The typical Madden gamer doesn't care about anything other than making sure they have the latest rosters in order to play online. This franchise for years now has been geared towards the online/arcade gaming crowd. And they certainly don't care about player rating editing.

What's the name of your data mining service...you have some amazing statistical theory and awareness that I would like to take advantage of???

[Bigmac612]

As a programmer myself, i think your probably pretty close to what i would guess as to why edited rosters and draft classes are not in CCM.

The problem is with this...is NBA2K is able to implement all of this and change the storylines in their franchise mode accordingly and have been doin this for the last 3yrs....its hard to accept EAs reasoning when one game implements it soooooo easily without F'n nothing up...

They better go ask their Devs for some advice!


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[RynoAid]

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We're both adults and i don't mean to get into an online pissing contest with you. I'm disappointed with the changes and you seem more or less content. No problem but I'm not and I'm not going to be talked out of my opinion. I feel like my reasons are pretty valid and judging by this thread and other online responses, those reasons are not unique to me.

Happy Gaming.

I'm a man I'm 40!!!!!

anyways.. i never said i wasn't disappointed about what is missing. I am happy with what has been added. Enough so that I believe this will be the best Madden in a decade. For me it's two steps forward with the gameplay, engine and ccm enhancements.

[wheelman990]

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As a programmer myself, i think your probably pretty close to what i would guess as to why edited rosters and draft classes are not in CCM.

As for Josh.. meeting him several times and corresponding with him, the last word that comes to mind is arrogant. I think when you have to communicate with as many people as he does, it's difficult to make everyone feel important though and sometimes maybe it comes off that way.

I know he has expressed to me that he wants to add things the right way going forward with this CCM mode. Maybe that's driving the delay.

Then why release ccm at all this year? Sorry, I don't buy that for a minute. Obviously ccm is not ready to be released this year

[Errors Occurred]

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What's the name of your data mining service...you have some amazing statistical theory and awareness that I would like to take advantage of???

If you just look around online today it seems like that data is messed up it's got that 3-5% error ....I think more people than not Edit and with all the new stuff they put into the game with the shoes and gloves I think even more would have looked into it.

[briz1744]

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was not meant to be condescending but when someone says they have less control this year, it leads me to believe they have not fully fleshed out all that is CCM. Maybe im misguided, and apologies if it's deemed condescending.

Whatever the new features give us they won't be able to add all the players donny moore leaves out of the game, decrease DT ratings to lessen interior pass rush and OT ratings to add edge rush or any of the multiple reasons I edit rosters to increase realism in my franchise.
If the new features were added to what we had rather than replacing them iwould still be as hyped as I was when I first heard them announced now I'm debating whether to stick with M12

[Yeats]

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I'm talking about editing in general

And that's what I'm talking about. I doubt more than 1% of gamers care about player rating editing. No doubt more than that care about editing their player's armbands or jersey number. And that's why the EA devs dare to remove editing from the game... because they know it won't affect their bottomline. Most Madden gamers don't care.

[cuttingteeth]

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Here's another clear look at why most of us are going to hate the game:

We who like editing and accuracy and then some are going to be able to edit said roster, BUT our ONLY shot at playing a season with that roster/those players is to do PLAY NOW games. That means, like I used to have to do with freaking John Elway's Quarterback on Nintendo 8-bit, I will have to create a spreadsheet with each team name and who they play that season. Then I'll have to create a sheet for my post season bracket. Then I'll have to play my Super Bowl making sure I picked the right stadium or hoping that at least that option to play a Super Bowl game is still available.

That's it. That's the only way those of us who enjoy full editing will be able to play the game happily.

[RGiles36]

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Then why release ccm at all this year? Sorry, I don't buy that for a minute. Obviously ccm is not ready to be released this year

That's an exaggeration, don't you think?

I share in some of these disappointments, but the notion that CCM is not ready is reaching IMO.

We go too far at OS sometimes. Don't get what we want individually, and now the whole mode is broken. Sheesh.