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  • aholbert32
    (aka Alberto)
    • Jul 2002
    • 33106

    #391
    Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

    Originally posted by Yeats
    Good grief man, it's called an opinion... just like you have an opinion that more people care about editing. I disagree with you. A few dozen posters on OS care obviously and may not buy the game. But past that, Madden sales will be in the millions as usual. It's not going to affect EA in any way, which is why they can risk removing editing. And they know that.
    Thats silly reasoning. There are alot of features within Madden that you can remove that wouldnt effect the sales. That doesnt mean that the features should be removed. I believe that you could remove online franchise and the numbers would be relatively the same. Why? Because its the only NFL game and some need their NFL fix.

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    • CRMosier_LM
      Banned
      • Jul 2009
      • 2061

      #392
      Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

      Originally posted by drlw322
      I just wonder if they unlock just equipment, names, and numbers, would it still cause a major bug. I hope the main issue is the rating edit and they can unlock the other things.
      i would say the main issue would be ratings and positions. hopefully they find a way to unlock the the other stuff.

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      • Yeats
        MVP
        • Mar 2012
        • 1581

        #393
        Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

        Originally posted by moylan
        but my opinion is backed up with actual facts that's the difference
        Yeah, you insist there are more people who are interested. Them's some facts there. No, that's called your opinion I'm afraid.

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        • aholbert32
          (aka Alberto)
          • Jul 2002
          • 33106

          #394
          Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

          Originally posted by Yeats
          Well like I said, a larger percentage of Madden gamers will care about the removal of armband and number editing, of course. But as far as editing player ratings, no.
          I dont get your point. You cant edit ANYTHING in CCM. Thats the issue. Not that the editing is limited.

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          • jpollard25
            Rookie
            • Jun 2011
            • 42

            #395
            Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

            Originally posted by Yeats
            Good grief man, it's called an opinion... just like you have an opinion that more people care about editing. I disagree with you. A few dozen posters on OS care obviously and may not buy the game. But past that, Madden sales will be in the millions as usual. It's not going to affect EA in any way, which is why they can risk removing editing. And they know that.
            Geez...it's a few dozen in a cross-section of a few dozen..."opinion" and statistics are not friends...state your opinion...stop using numbers.

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            • moylan1234
              MVP
              • Jul 2004
              • 3946

              #396
              Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

              Originally posted by CRMosier_LM
              The exact thing you just said without the fluff... no way they could get it in the game and have it tuned in time for release.
              exactly that's what I've been saying all along. they knew they wouldn't have time to flush it out completely so they went ahead without it. and for the record i've stated on the NCAA boards that I totally understand and respect their decision and I wish Madden would've taken that same approach to CC

              I love fluff especially with peanut butter, but I don't get what I ever said that was inaccurate

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              • Yeats
                MVP
                • Mar 2012
                • 1581

                #397
                Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                Originally posted by aholbert32
                Thats silly reasoning. There are alot of features within Madden that you can remove that wouldnt effect the sales. That doesnt mean that the features should be removed. I believe that you could remove online franchise and the numbers would be relatively the same. Why? Because its the only NFL game and some need their NFL fix.
                I'm not supporting the decision to remove editing, I think it's terrible they did that. But it doesn't surprise me, EA does this sort of thing all the time with their games. I'm just a realist. They obviously felt they could get away with it and that it wouldn't hurt their bottomline. And why? Because they know very few people care and/or will buy the game anyway.

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                • moylan1234
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 3946

                  #398
                  Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                  Originally posted by Yeats
                  Yeah, you insist there are more people who are interested. Them's some facts there. No, that's called your opinion I'm afraid.
                  I never insisted anything actually. I provided a fact that every sports game released today has this a fact you still haven't addressed at all

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                  • GiantBlue76
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 3287

                    #399
                    Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                    Originally posted by wheelman990
                    Didn't online franchise start with Madden 10? So, you been playing nfl football games for 2 years or just play with play it now games? Just curious. Thx
                    Hey Wheel,

                    I had every madden from 1988 (apple 2e) until 2000. Then I bought 2k. I played online head to head against friends during that time. Before that I played Madden on the genesis against friends and then I entered the online league realm on the PC. The PC had a fully functional online franchise back then, it was amazing. Then of course, they removed it, so I know exactly how you feel. 2k came out and I played the hell out of it online head to head against friends until 2k5 had full support for online leagues, then i played that. Then I lost my favorite brand of football to play all together. Trust me, I know exactly how it feels to have what you enjoy taken away. At least you can get yours back...

                    There are few people who are frustrated with Madden as much as I am, but connected careers is an awesome addition to this game. That much I am willing to say for sure.

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                    • aholbert32
                      (aka Alberto)
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 33106

                      #400
                      Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                      Originally posted by PPerfect_CJ
                      After some discussion, we agreed that Franchise mode is yours to control and that we needed to give you the ability to edit the ratings of any player in Franchise mode, whether they are veterans or the rookies you just imported from NCAA Football.

                      If you want some QB you imported to be an 85 overall because you won the Heisman with him, you’re welcome to edit him to be that high. It’s all up to you"
                      - Josh Looman EA Blog Madden 12

                      And I doubt that Looman would have said THIS if it were just 1%. Question is, why take it away from us?
                      I'm not a conspiracy theorist but EA (specifically the Madden series) is notorious for the old "take away and give back" game. They take a feature like editing away and then promote it as a new feature the following years.

                      They did it when Madden went to next gen consoles under the guise of "we are building from the ground up" and they did it again this year with CCM. EA has also done it in the past with Fifa, Live and NHL.

                      With the exception of Crew mode, I've never seen NBA 2k do this. Never seen Sony do that with the show. Never seen THQ do it with their sports fighting games. It appears to be a EA only move with sports games.

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                      • Danimal
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 2198

                        #401
                        Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                        This doesn't effect me but I see how it does others. I'm not going to sit here and say it's important or not important because I believe we all make our own determination in "what we can deal with" when it comes to sports games.

                        Having said that what I find a bit disturbing is for years people have screamed for EA to innovate. Stop doing "roster updates" give us something new.

                        CCM is something new and almost no one has played it yet but some people have already deemed it a failure. That's just absurd logic IMO.

                        I want to try it see what is good and what is missing. Figure out what "I can deal with" and if I can play it going forward. No one is going to know how it tastes and what it delivers until we dig into it and I for one, well I'm ready to eat.
                        <a href="http://www.operationsports.com/Danimal/blog/6756-going-old-school-v1/">Read my blog Going Old School v1 GridIron! football.

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                        • CRMosier_LM
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 2061

                          #402
                          Originally posted by moylan
                          exactly that's what I've been saying all along. they knew they wouldn't have time to flush it out completely so they went ahead without it. and for the record i've stated on the NCAA boards that I totally understand and respect their decision and I wish Madden would've taken that same approach to CC

                          I love fluff especially with peanut butter, but I don't get what I ever said that was inaccurate
                          I think I may have meant to quote the post you quoted... I don't have a full pot of coffee yet so therefore my thought process is still suspect

                          Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2

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                          • wheelman990
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 2233

                            #403
                            Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                            Originally posted by moylan
                            but my opinion is backed up with actual facts that's the difference
                            Where were the facts posted at?

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                            • CRMosier_LM
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 2061

                              #404
                              Originally posted by Danimal
                              This doesn't effect me but I see how it does others. I'm not going to sit here and say it's important or not important because I believe we all make our own determination in "what we can deal with" when it comes to sports games.

                              Having said that what I find a bit disturbing is for years people have screamed for EA to innovate. Stop doing "roster updates" give us something new.

                              CCM is something new and almost no one has played it yet but some people have already deemed it a failure. That's just absurd logic IMO.

                              I want to try it see what is good and what is missing. Figure out what "I can deal with" and if I can play it going forward. No one is going to know how it tastes and what it delivers until we dig into it and I for one, well I'm ready to eat.
                              If you invent a time machine so we can both skip to the release I will help fund it. Rynoaid might throw in as well.

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                              • poster
                                All Star
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 7506

                                #405
                                Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                                Casey, Ryno, have they said whether some of the generated features (assigned numbers & equipment for new players) will work better this year? Have they said they have dedicated more resources to make this area work better this year since there is no editing?

                                Since there is no editing, I would have thought they would at least discuss those aspects being improved and worked on in the new CCM. By not saying anything, all we have to go by is their track record of it not working well in the past. I get that it is a new mode, but I would have expected a mention of it being tweaked in the new mode somewhere along the line (blogs or E3 videos). Did they work on improving this area at all?

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