Madden NFL 13 Screenshot - Ronnie Lott

[juicer420]

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In fact, a quick google search of 1981 Ronnie Lott yielded these 2 pictures, one is a game worn helmet and the other is a Super Bowl picture.

[Senator Palmer]

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^ I've seen that facemask and I do know that these are supposed to be the players as rookies, but the Madden team took a populist route and made certain concessions to design the legends as people remembered them for the bulk of their career. That's why Reggie White has #92 instead of the #91 that he wore his first year in Philly, and that's why Mike Young dropped this on twitter a few months ago before the Mean Joe photo:

Ok @steelers fans. What # do you want to see on Mean Joe Greene in #connectedcareers? His actual rookie #72 or the iconic #75?

[juicer420]

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^ I've seen that facemask and I do know that these are supposed to be the players as rookies, but the Madden team took a populist route and made certain concessions to design the legends as people remembered them for the bulk of their career. That's why Reggie White has #92 instead of the #91 that he wore his first year in Philly, and that's why Mike Young dropped this on twitter a few months ago before the Mean Joe photo:

Oh ok, thank you for clearing that up. Is there any word on if he is a corner or Safety to start?

And just to be clear, I would hope they use the equipment/# that they are most recognized in. I was just pointing out that this was his first facemask in the NFL. Much like his USC facemask. And that may be why they dont have the correct facemask in that snapshot. Possibly because they don't have that facemask in the game. So they just used a generic DB type facemask.

[Senator Palmer]

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Is there any word on if he is a corner or Safety to start?

This is a really excellent question that I don't have the slightest idea about. He was All-Pro at both, but just looking at the way pro football reference has him broken down, I'd guess that he'd be a safety since that's where he spent his prime years. His first four seasons he was listed as a corner; his 5th they have him listed FS/LCB; and the final 9 he was a safety. Just looking at that I can see them making the concession to play him where he spent the bulk of his career.

[fsufan4423]

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I really don't understand why it matters how accurate this facemask is, you can barely notice it while your playing. You might catch a glimpse in a cut screen.

[juggalotusx]

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This is a really excellent question that I don't have the slightest idea about. He was All-Pro at both, but just looking at the way pro football reference has him broken down, I'd guess that he'd be a safety since that's where he spent his prime years. His first four seasons he was listed as a corner; his 5th they have him listed FS/LCB; and the final 9 he was a safety. Just looking at that I can see them making the concession to play him where he spent the bulk of his career.

Hey this isnt a what position did he play thread its a picture of the player thread, BOSS.............

[CurryMan]

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how come the graphics only look this good in cutscenes?

[Senator Palmer]

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I really don't understand why it matters hoe accurate this facemask is, you can barely notice it while your playing. You might catch a glimpse in a cut screen.

Last year, they made a point of thumping their chests for getting green dots on the helmets, even acknowledging that most people wouldn't notice it, but saying they took the time to do it anyway because that's the standard that they want to hold themselves to -- 100% authenticity was what they said in the blogs. That was the goal. So, if 100% authenticity is what they are shooting for then why wouldn't an inaccurate facemask on one of the greatest players of all-time matter?

[DeuceDouglas]

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I'm surprised with all the talk about how the facemask is wrong, nobody has mentioned how the sleeve stripes are wrong.

[juggalotusx]

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Last year, they made a point of thumping their chests for getting green dots on the helmets, even acknowledging that most people wouldn't notice it, but saying they took the time to do it anyway because that's the standard that they want to hold themselves to -- 100% authenticity was what they said in the blogs. That was the goal. So, if 100% authenticity is what they are shooting for then why wouldn't an inaccurate facemask on one of the greatest players of all-time matter?

Ok, if they are saying 100 percent accuracy then yes it needs to be done. It always would make me mad when they would not update the player portraits when going threw the rosters and seeing V.Davis still with dreads. I also think player faces should be spot on example Ryan fitzpatrick and the beard. I think Ronnie lott looks great with or without the the right facemask,big pads and missing pinky. IMO he was the toughest Saftey of all time and Im glad he is in the game...

[Skyboxer]

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I'm surprised with all the talk about how the facemask is wrong, nobody has mentioned how the sleeve stripes are wrong.

I never pay that much attention to stuff like that ... so what's wrong with the sleeves stripes? Other than maybe being a little thin. (numbers aren't on sleeve either also...)

[DeuceDouglas]

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I never pay that much attention to stuff like that ... so what's wrong with the sleeves stripes? Other than maybe being a little thin. (numbers aren't on sleeve either also...)

In the screenshot he's wearing a current 49er jersey, not a throwback. Their current jersey's sleeve stripes are truncated and don't go all the way around the sleeve except for the top one.

[Skyboxer]

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In the screenshot he's wearing a current 49er jersey, not a throwback. Their current jersey's sleeve stripes are truncated and don't go all the way around the sleeve except for the top one.

Aaaahhh...
I'd never notice that. Glad we have people who look that much into the details but until I get a new passing system and real ratings that matter I'll yell about that
Good eye!

[fsufan4423]

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Last year, they made a point of thumping their chests for getting green dots on the helmets, even acknowledging that most people wouldn't notice it, but saying they took the time to do it anyway because that's the standard that they want to hold themselves to -- 100% authenticity was what they said in the blogs. That was the goal. So, if 100% authenticity is what they are shooting for then why wouldn't an inaccurate facemask on one of the greatest players of all-time matter?

I agree! But are we bashing it just because we can, or....are we really mad because we want it, need it, can't play Madden without this facemask in the game, or sock length...ect.?

Not you....just in general

[Senator Palmer]

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I agree! But are we bashing it just because we can

I can't speak for the rest of my O.S. brethren, but genrally, by and large, when I see threads like these, I don't get the sense that anyone is harping on these issues because they can. You'll always see agendas start to show, but by and large the people who take the time to articulate what's wrong stay on subject.

As to the second part of your question:

are we really mad because we want it, need it, can't play Madden without this facemask in the game, or sock length...ect.?

I don't think that's what's going on, either. To me, it's all about the standards that you set for yourself and your work. Madden is supposed to exemplify the highest of those, so it's about holding them accountable. When you are a craftsman, everything you do is about attention to detail, you love the details, you take pride in details. And the work that you put out for public consumption is very much a reflection on you and how you approach your job. There's a pride that you get from putting in the work and knowing that every inch of what you created is on point, that you didn't skimp or cut corners -- that when someone puts the disc in their system that they got the best you had to offer.

Conversely, if I buy a product with my hard earned money -- say a jersey for arguments sake -- and everything looks good; the colors pop, material has that new sheen to it, the fit is perfect, but then I get in close and there's loose stitching on the underarms, or an odd hanging thread at the bottom -- I'm taking that damn thing back and getting a refund, because I'm not paying for someone's sloppy work, and that's exactly what a lack of attention to detail says: it indicates someone who didn't care what they were creating, and I can promise you that's the last thing EA wants to represent.

That's why a facemask or a stripe on the sleeve is important. None of it breaks the game, but when those little things are blatantly wrong, it tells me how far you did or didn't go in building this product.