Madden NFL 13 Videos - Demo Intros

[DaveDQ]

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I like the intros. I kind of wish there was a voice introducing the game before Jim and Phil take over. I might ad one myself.

[bucknut88]

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I think the intros are 1000000000000000x better than the absolute joke we saw in NCAA 13.

But I still need to see how diverse this is. And how they'll complement this with a post-game show, a half-time show, or mid-game updates.

As of now, they have about 25% of the presentation down pretty solid. Not amazing, but solid. And I think that's a huge accomplishment in itself for a company like EA.

Am I the only one who could care less about this stuff? Give me close to perfect gameplay and I'm happy. I don't need halftime shows or pre-game anything. I just want the gameplay to be SOLID.

[jwhezzy2003]

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normally madden would be about to come out in a week? Delayed release #FAIL

[S C 0 0 Z E]

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lol Pete Carroll must be doing some serious deadlifting, his traps are huge.

[Nab_Impervious_XII]

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Am I the only one who could care less about this stuff?

You're not.

But there are also people who do care.

No reason why we can't have both excellent presentation and excellent gameplay. It's been done before.

[wheelman990]

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They have done a pretty good job here. I like how there was 2 variations of intro's here(mostly audio). If the playoffs and Superbowl's have there own special pregames & intro's, I think overall this is the best looking pregame/intro cut scenes of any football video game I have seen. If only it had a custom stadium music & editor

[CajunPunk]

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http://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/n...en-nfl-13-demo

I guess I am becoming "that guy" but what's the deal with some of the cut scene transitions? I have read back to some of the things The Watcher used to point out all the time back in the day, that still seem to be there. For example in the Redskins video, why does it transition from everyone in the huddle putting their hands in, immediately back to everyone on the sideline?

If they are intending for that to be a flashback type montage of something that has already taken place and then back to a "live" shot of the sideline, there needs to be a better method to relay that to the viewer. I hope people understand what I am saying and not just thinking "stop being nitpicky" because the little things like that matter

I'm with you, man. Jump/quick cuts denote a continuation of time. Cross-dissolves (or fades) denote a passage of time. If you watch the NFL on TV and when they are doing a flashback, the video often tends to slow just slightly right before a cross-dissolve to the live video. In real time (a live game), the guy in the bus is switching from camera to camera without dissolves or transitions. You jump from one shot to the next because this is happening now.

This doesn't happen 100% of the time, but quite often. You can see it happen in NBC's coverage of the Olympics when showing a flashback or replay.

Also, the camera in Madden always seems too fixed on the player, as if it bounces with his trot. I hope the cutaway cameras are more stable, smooth and TV like in '13.

Studying film, videography and editing along with shooting news and sports has kinda ruined movies, TV shows and other things for me. Ha. So, when I see what you see, I can tell that it's not that you are simply being nit picky. Instead, you are picking up on things you normally accept subconsciously because they are abnormal compared to what you are used to. It's like when you visit someone's house and it smells different. You pick up on things that aren't what you are used to.
Is that too confusing? lol

With that said, Madden has ALWAYS been the worst in the commentary and presentation dept. They've made huge strides the last few years in that regard, however, and it'll probably be a bit longer before it feels fluid. I guess...

[Big FN Deal]

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I'm with you, man. Jump/quick cuts denote a continuation of time. Cross-dissolves (or fades) denote a passage of time. If you watch the NFL on TV and when they are doing a flashback, the video often tends to slow just slightly right before a cross-dissolve to the live video. In real time (a live game), the guy in the bus is switching from camera to camera without dissolves or transitions. You jump from one shot to the next because this is happening now.

This doesn't happen 100% of the time, but quite often. You can see it happen in NBC's coverage of the Olympics when showing a flashback or replay.

Also, the camera in Madden always seems too fixed on the player, as if it bounces with his trot. I hope the cutaway cameras are more stable, smooth and TV like in '13.

Studying film, videography and editing along with shooting news and sports has kinda ruined movies, TV shows and other things for me. Ha. So, when I see what you see, I can tell that it's not that you are simply being nit picky. Instead, you are picking up on things you normally accept subconsciously because they are abnormal compared to what you are used to. It's like when you visit someone's house and it smells different. You pick up on things that aren't what you are used to.
Is that too confusing? lol

With that said, Madden has ALWAYS been the worst in the commentary and presentation dept. They've made huge strides the last few years in that regard, however, and it'll probably be a bit longer before it feels fluid. I guess...

I am sitting here saying "Yes" like that diner scene from "When Harry Met Sally", lol. Thanks for articulating the specifics far better than I could. Like I said, a poster called The Watcher has actually been down to Tiburon and told them about these things, according to an OS search, so it just baffling at this point. I just wish EA/Tiburon would copy the NFL from the rooter to the tooter as best they can and stop letting the "Madden" brand get in the way.

Oh well, like you stated, at least it is far better than it has been.

[wheelman990]

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lol Pete Carroll must be doing some serious deadlifting, his traps are huge.

All the coaches look weird. Not sure why it's so hard for them.

[DickDalewood]

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Awesome.

Hell. Yes.

Excited for Tuesday

[cuttingteeth]

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I am sitting here saying "Yes" like that diner scene from "When Harry Met Sally", lol. Thanks for articulating the specifics far better than I could. Like I said, a poster called The Watcher has actually been down to Tiburon and told them about these things, according to an OS search, so it just baffling at this point. I just wish EA/Tiburon would copy the NFL from the rooter to the tooter as best they can and stop letting the "Madden" brand get in the way.

Oh well, like you stated, at least it is far better than it has been.

I do work in film already, totally know where you guys are coming from and so here's what I'm seeing, too:

The first thing to take in mind is that youtube is notorious for compressing footage harsh. That means that all footage you'll see on youtube is going to come across at least slightly darkened than the live product on your home monitors/television.

Second, let the youtube footage completely load before watching. As with any streaming footage, if the loading is snagging or lagging, you get what looks like jumpy transitions, when they may actually be smooth when again you play it yourself on your monitors/television.

I actually don't see as much motion blur as I figured would be in the game, but these are like everyone's pointed out - they are prefabbed cut scenes/animations and not gameplay. So the motion blur may end up bugging some folks after all. Doubly, the motion blur needs to be really judged on playing the game at home and not on a compressed youtube video.

The motion of the camera moving with the player, like what happens when focused on RG3 warming up, they are pretty clearly trying to simulate "hand held" camera styling. Where that goes wrong is why many folks don't enjoy all of these found-footage films so much anymore. It plays with your conditioning of what film/television has made you used to - static shots or at the very least, stable dolly or tripod shots for action. Oh, and it also isn't so realistic anymore, as basically any high end camera now has amazing image stabilization. You honestly have to edit in with after effects in post to get a really shaky camera look.

Per the slight offness of replay footage compared to the live footage, that is your eye noticing frame rate differences. Most live sports and/or news (especially your local news stations) will be direct feeds being filmed at anywhere from 30 to 100 frames per second (or fps). Resolution isn't worth discussing because that is another subject really. When you watch a film it's 99% of the time shot and screened to you at 24fps - if you live in the UK, it's done at 25fps. That look is very specific. Daytime soap operas are mostly 30fps. Local/live news is mostly 60fps. Most live sports are shown at 60 to 100 fps. In the case of replay footage, though, it's no longer a live stream, and you're viewing a rendered version of the footage for replay/screening. That rendering usually takes 60fps live footage back down to 30fps or takes 100fps live footage back down to 30fps. Very few networks will render higher than 30fps, and so your eyes notice the "loss of gloss" if you will...or moreover you are able to see that rendering down in framerates isn't lossless.

I hope this helps some. If anything, you all now know why Peter Jackson's screening of The Hobbit footage in new, HD 48fps was really bothering people. We've really all gotten conditioned over so many years as to what certain footage should or shouldn't look like.

[exposedaking]

Presentation looks great, player faces need MAJOR work

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[seasprite]

Not trying to be picky, but how come Moss has the redskins logo on his left sleeve but none of the other Redskins do?

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[StrawHat Patriot]

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The intros are really solid. I like how they have been done with different animations for the players.

I have some problems though. The commentators may say the same thing for every divisional matchup, or pretty much whenever the same two teams play multiple times. The transitioning is extremely poor. The camera cuts and the players doing one thing one the field only to cut to them doing stuff on the sidelines. The coaches moving around flapping their hands the same way.The coaches look really bad;

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[davep]

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Phil Simms is still sucking on that sour candy.