Madden NFL 13 Title Update #2 Arrives Tomorrow, Player Editing Still Being Explored

[mestevo]

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The editing issue came to light at E3 months ago and the response is that they are looking into it at this stage is somewhat underwhelming

They addressed the elephant in the room, if they didn't the thread would be even longer with all the things (including editing) people would rather have fixed.

They've reiterated just more than with 140 characters what has been said before more or less that they're looking into it.

[kehlis]

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EA has mentioned they're looking into it prior to today, and he said:



If he knew before today then he'd know EA isn't just finding out.

Looks to me like he was just making a point as to how ridiculous it is that they are just looking into it and providing facts directly from them to help back his points.

Seems to me though that you were just trying to pick a fight for no reason.

[celtics6]

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So EA now finds people who have legitament complaints hilarious? That sounds like a shot to me. Seems like you are handpicking the wrong people as well.

[mestevo]

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Looks to me like he was just making a point as to how ridiculous it is that they are just looking into it and providing facts directly from them to help back his points.

Seems to me though that you were just trying to pick a fight for no reason.

Not at all, the 'they pretend that they are just finding out' to me is where I took issue with that post. You and I clearly just read that post differently.

[Tweeg]

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I think a lot of us knew that this would be the type of patch that you normally see on release day. However, since it's coming out two weeks after release, I find it more than a bit concerning that they couldn't even squeeze assisted tackle tracking into this update. This is an issue that was evident within an hour of the demo hitting the marketplace.

[MeTsFaN719]

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I'm with you on that.

I mostly play 3 player co-op vs CPU and it's the most fun I've ever had with a video game.

Madden 12 was a great game in my opinion (once the sliders were setup), simulating teamwork with your friends is great fun and, sociable gaming aside, the beauty of having human teammates is you see a noticeable reduction in botched CPU AI and the game feels less scripted.

Why oh why did Josh and the Madden team only allow gamers to enjoy Madden 13 alone - really strange and totally unheard of for a team-based sports game.

Wow man same here. 3 player co-op franchises are awesome. It's fun doing things like modeling the roster together, having games where you're all clicking and then some where you gotta pick up the slack because your buddy is struggling, the whole offseason, etc. We had a ton of fun with Madden 12 and we were looking forward to this year with the new gameplay, and man were we let down.

And like I said my brother and I share a gamertag and an Xbox 360, so it's not like either of us can really play it as much as we want to. I don't really see why it would be hard to add it into the patch unless I'm missing something. I'd even settle for just one other human player...

[celtics6]

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I think people need to get out of the stone age more than anything. It's an ego and personality flaw thing. It's not that difficult to listen and communicate.

[prototype561]

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Are they patching the gameplay in CCM, because it plays totally different than Play Now?

Am I the only one experiencing this?

In play now the cpu offense on all-madden is very dangerous, it is very hard to stop the run. The cpu has had multiple 100 yd games on me.

In CMM, I have yet to give up more than 50 yds with the browns, I seriously believe the sliders dont work in CCM.

[36omadden]

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wish they would give more detailed info on the title update!

[tarantism]

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Here is what I don't understand: The madden Devs and their apologists are always talking about how everybody has different needs, and it's impossible to make everybody happy. However the easiest way to make the most possible people happy every year is to make the game as customizable as possible. That being said, year by year we seem to be LOSING the ability to customize our Madden experience.

If they truly cared about making as many people as possible happy then they would allow us to change as much or as little about our gaming experience as possible.

I remember two years ago being very excited with the addition of game plans. I thought that using sliders, coaching schemes and game plans we could potentially have NFL teams play as true as possible to their real life counterparts. However, in a patch that same year, EA made it impossible to apply game plans to CPU teams at the game launch screen. Now this year they have even taken away our ability to use the two controller workaround.

What I don't understand is, why? People say EA is lazy, but I personally don't see it. They seem to be going out of their way to take away workarounds that hardcore sim gamers are using to make their Madden experience more realistic. They even took away 32 team control! Does our desire to customize the game to give it more authenticity hurt their pride?

Regardless of the answer that EA might give, there have been a series of decisions made this year to actively take away user customization that I regard as no less than a disaster. I don't see how they could possibly be surprised with the backlash.

If only I could edit CPU game plans I would be sticking with this year's Madden. I could look past the poor sim stats and other issues (though they should be fixed as well, to be honest) but because of how poorly the hard coded CPU game plans are I am going to shelve this Madden and go back to 12. At least in that game I still had the two controller workaround.

[celtics6]

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Here is what I don't understand: The madden Devs and their apologists are always talking about how everybody has different needs, and it's impossible to make everybody happy. However the easiest way to make the most possible people happy every year is to make the game as customizable as possible. That being said, year by year we seem to be LOSING the ability to customize our Madden experience.

If they truly cared about making as many people as possible happy then they would allow us to change as much or as little about our gaming experience as possible.

I remember two years ago being very excited with the addition of game plans. I thought that using sliders, coaching schemes and game plans we could potentially have NFL teams play as true as possible to their real life counterparts. However, in a patch that same year, EA made it impossible to apply game plans to CPU teams at the game launch screen. Now this year they have even taken away our ability to use the two controller workaround.

What I don't understand is, why? People say EA is lazy, but I personally don't see it. They seem to be going out of their way to take away workarounds that hardcore sim gamers are using to make their Madden experience more realistic. They even took away 32 team control! Does our desire to customize the game to give it more authenticity hurt their pride?

Regardless of the answer that EA might give, there have been a series of decisions made this year to actively take away user customization that I regard as no less than a disaster. I don't see how they could possibly be surprised with the backlash.

If only I could edit CPU game plans I would be sticking with this year's Madden. I could look past the poor sim stats and other issues (though they should be fixed as well, to be honest) but because of how poorly the hard coded CPU game plans are I am going to shelve this Madden and go back to 12. At least in that game I still had the two controller workaround.

EA doesn't trust their own customers? we are the enemy? lol...

[mirrored32]

talk of editing players for CC is nice to know about. I appreciate that! I figured it would take till M14 before this would be actually considered, but it is apparent that the new team is doing a great job of response and trying to put out the game that people want! good times!

[R9NALD9]

If they haven't fixed the mess that is the challenge system, the bug where your defense run commit for no reason etc. etc. and equally important fixed assisted tackles and half sacks...then I'm trading this in.

It will be the shortest span of time I've ever had a Madden game before trading it in.

[GiantBlue76]

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You realize everything that is posted here is read by the team and taken into consideration right?

No, actually I don't realize that. The player movement, running, line play, challenge system, ball physics and penalties have been harped on for YEARS here. They have all yet to be taken into consideration.

I posted in response to the comment because it continues to come up and needed to be addressed.

Just ignore that stuff. Some people don't like the gamechanger program, others do. It's not going to solve anything by responding to that.

I enjoy interacting with the community, so my posts won't stop. Regardless of the feedback, we're always listening.

Who said anything about stopping your posts? Just don't get emotional and get personal about an unhappy customer. Whether you want to hear it or not, customers who have no other NFL football gaming option have a lot to be upset about. Until Madden grows up to be an adult game again, the criticism is going to continue to flow. Unfortunately, you have to just absorb it and get the information that you need. There is more than enough here on this board alone, but it's not even needed. Model the game after the actual NFL without cutting corners and half baking elements of the game and success will follow. There is tons of footage out there, and there are even other games to compare to so that you can see how to do certain things.

Everyone who posts in these threads wants the same thing. Everyone expresses themselves differently. Madden needs to be much better than it is, but if you guys can pull that off, all will be forgiven.

[briz1744]

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They addressed the elephant in the room, if they didn't the thread would be even longer with all the things (including editing) people would rather have fixed.

They've reiterated just more than with 140 characters what has been said before more or less that they're looking into it.

My point was that after being aware of the depth of feeling this issue has raised that 3 months later they ought to be a little more farther along in the process than it would appear from that statement .
By now I would like to think they would at least know what they are capable of adding via a patch. For example they have ruled out Fantasy drafts at this stage is any aspect of editing not plausible ? Etc