Madden NFL 13 Title Update #2 Available Now (Updated to Include Full Details)

[roadman]

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Word on the EA Forums is that there is a problem with the patch, and EA is fixing something and we should be able to re-download it later today.

I don't know if this is true, and i don't understand what it means exactly, but several posters on the EA Forums are saying that this is why no changes are evident yet even after getting the update.

Is that confirmed by EA, yet?

[Hades71]

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As a computer science major in college with emphasis in programming I do understand the difficulty in programming and fixing bugs especially for very large projects like this. However I can't stand for lazy or bad programming to start. I will say ti again, Madden used to be fun and a bit more realistic when it came to pure football. It's a football game first so start there then add in the bells and whistles.

Let's be honest, they have deadlines and budgets so QA and overall quality suffers. The team is about money now and less about what EA started as, sports fans. The designers of these games are gamers first and maybe football fans second if at all. They probably don't have QA testers that know or care about football either so when they test before it's released they only look for the obvious like a game crashing and overlook true football game play.

Herp, Derp.

[ProbieByKO]

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Where on the EA Forums? I just looked in the Madden General Discussion forum and didn't see this talked about anywhere.

A couple of posters mentioned this within a few threads, which is why I said that I didn't know if it was true or not.

I'm kind of hoping it is, and that's why no changes are noticeable yet.

I'll look through the threads again and post a link when I find it.

I repeat, nothing officially said by EA, just the word in a few threads on the forum.

[bucky60]

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This isn't solely a Madden thing, though.

The same thing happens with the baseball games, FIFA, NHL and NBA 2k. Except for MLB 2k, the difference is those games are better out of the box than Madden and people are more willing to wait.

I don't have FIFA or NHL, but the bold is the key to all the other games I have. NBA2K, even MLB2K or any other game I have doesn't come out with nearly the number of issues Madden does. Just because other games come out with some issues, doesn't excuse the way Madden is released.

[La Verite]

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Complaint I am seeing a lot on these forums:

Why is it such a big deal that it needs to be looked into to simply add editing players into this game?

If you have been following Josh Looman as I have he has answered this question. Editing players can more or less make Connected Careers mode crash or not function correctly with the storylines etc. So it is likely that they have to re-do some of the coding with the storylines and the entire CCM mode to accomodate for editing of players. Last thing I want is for them to rush out editing players and then CCM crashes/freezes every time I play it because of it.

Why is it so hard to implement a fantasy draft into Connected Careers?

They would, in fact, have to rewrite the code for multiple screens of the game and fabricate a whole new screen and process. A new toggle-able option on the CCM startup screen. It alters the flow of the pre-career setup significantly. More signifantly then an edit player option even. It also could potentially lead to a destabilization of the mode if not done correctly.

Then why did they take these things out?

They did not take these things out. This is not the Madden that has existed on this console since day one. The entire code was scrapped, and they used very little of the old code in this new game. Therefore, they did not take it out. They were not able to put it back in under the new format in time.

This is why I hope they only focus on minor things that won't mess the game up overall. I mean I understand some complaints but some people want a whole another game. I actually like M13 and I hope this game is not completly ruined just to satisfy a few negitive reviews.

[roadman]

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I don't have FIFA or NHL, but the bold is the key to all the other games I have. NBA2K, even MLB2K or any other game I have doesn't come out with nearly the number of issues Madden does. Just because other games come out with some issues, doesn't excuse the way Madden is released.

Never said or implied it did, just saying it's par for the time table of other yearly sports games patches.

[ballymenasteve]

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The developers had the 'final' build of the game, weeks before it was released, so there's no valid reason why some of the basic bugs like wind direction arrow, assisted tackles, stadium sounds haven't been fixed by now, even taking the certification period into account

[steamboat]

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Then it was designed and implemented very poorly. The story lines should have been dynamic (parametrized) so that changing players attributes would not break the story line.

Hey, I'm no apologist, nor am I a programmer all I am saying here is that at its current state the developers of the game have stated its not as easy as just a 10 minute job (like it was in the previous generation)



Then I would rather have them keep Franchise and CCM until CCM is ready to completely replace franchise.

I had heard something about franchise being too much to add on to the game on the PS3/X360 memory wise. Regardless the two are the same mode, and the stability issues I could see coming from having three rosters, three patch points, and all of that I just can't see it being plausible.


Yes they did take these things out. Were they in last years game? and previous years? Are they in this years game? They have been removed from last year to this year. Those features that were in the game last year are missing from this years game. Saying they were not taken out is just a semantics game.

Maybe it is semantics, but people are acting like they were in this code and they were taken out. Like it was simple for them to just leave it in. All I'm asking for is a little perspective, thats all.

The game right now is unplayable for me. I hope this patch at least makes it playable either online or offline. So I'm just as upset as others are about this, but being irrational and stating things that are not so does not help anyone. Particularly if you want to be taken seriously by the devs or EA personnel that comes onto these boards.

[crpav]

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Herp, Derp.

I am sorry for what i said. I just was a bit upset as I took the response as me being "stupid" not as what I said as boring.

[bucky60]

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The game right now is unplayable for me. I hope this patch at least makes it playable either online or offline. So I'm just as upset as others are about this, but being irrational and stating things that are not so does not help anyone. Particularly if you want to be taken seriously by the devs or EA personnel that comes onto these boards.

Who is being irrational and stating things that are not so?

[steamboat]

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Who is being irrational and stating things that are not so?

About half the people complaining on these boards. Not you, of course. We've been having rational conversations for the past week that I've been waiting for a playable game. But there are a ton here that use all caps and claiming that everything is so easy to fix. Even on this thread there are a half dozen examples of this.

[Hades71]

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If you have somethig to say then please post something more intelligent than that. Ok, maybe I went way out of no where with what I posted but come on quit being an EA nut hanger and see that EA has gone downhill and it's a sad truth.

Thanks for attacking me on a personal level for finding your post dull.

[Cnada]

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All arguments about patches number of them, EA Greed yada yada yada

I want Online Sliders Fixed but dont think this will happen in a patch think it is backend server stuff.

hope remains!

[thebizarrojerry]

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I am having fun despite the bugs, with online ccm... Just waiting for opening day rosters and hopefully to edit players in ccm someday

[steamboat]

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All arguments about patches number of them, EA Greed yada yada yada

I want Online Sliders Fixed but dont think this will happen in a patch think it is backend server stuff.

hope remains!

Thats a good thing, as it tends to mean it will be patched sooner then the next patch. I'm just hoping I can stay connected for longer then five minutes after this one.