Editing in CCM = distorted appearances?

[mavfan21]

Re: Editing in CCM = distorted appearances?

I hope they fix this, obviously, BUT, if I had to have it happen to any position other than Kickers I'd pick the OL/DL.

I can easily ignore it in the jumble of bodies they turn into on each play anyway.

If it was WR/HB/QB/LB/DBs it would be pretty distracting.

[jethrobag]

Re: Editing in CCM = distorted appearances?

Ok so here is what I found..linemen are mess..I had two TE who's arms went skinny at the edit screen however I fixed them and it saved and worked in game play (meaning no skinny arms)..I signed TO and edited him..thought he needed to be alittle bigger..well he now looks like David Boston..so TO is messed up..tried to fix..stuck with MASSIVE arms..so makes me wonder if its player specific..
**edit**
Has anyone seen or heard from anyone at Madden since the patch dropped via tweeter, here, or any other place?

It does affect the OL more, but it has to be specific to some degree. I was fooling around with a Browns CCM last night, and Joe Thomas was fine. I could edit him and nothing changed. However, he was the only Olineman that did not change. All the rest had the skinny arms.

[spyoutofthecold]

Re: Editing in CCM = distorted appearances?

At this point they have to be trolling us, right?

-Put in a the ability to change overall D and O scheme....still won't save.

-Give us the ability to edti players......makes them looks like skinny freaks.

-Give us custom rosters.....depth charts resets every time you play a game.

There is no way this isn't deliberate anymore.

[Graffititech]

Re: Editing in CCM = distorted appearances?

At this point they have to be trolling us, right?

-Put in a the ability to change overall D and O scheme....still won't save.

-Give us the ability to edti players......makes them looks like skinny freaks.

-Give us custom rosters.....depth charts resets every time you play a game.

There is no way this isn't deliberate anymore.

The results of rushing to change code and overlooking or missing the effects.

[Falconfreak]

Re: Editing in CCM = distorted appearances?

Has there been any official word from EA over this? Surely they must have received feedback by now to let them know the glitches with editing OL/DL and the depth chart resetting?

[niftyjets]

Re: Editing in CCM = distorted appearances?

so then making their arms or legs bigger if they have the glitch will not make it look better.

is there any other fixes?

[SA1NT401]

Has there been any official word from EA over this? Surely they must have received feedback by now to let them know the glitches with editing OL/DL and the depth chart resetting?

Nope, and I don't expect any.

[Hooe]

Re: Editing in CCM = distorted appearances?

There is no way this isn't deliberate anymore.

Why would a for-profit company deliberately break its own product? There's no good reason for it.

The results of rushing to change code and overlooking or missing the effects.

Far more likely scenario that things just got rushed, at least partially as a result of the loud public outcry over the edit player issue.

[BBlom13]

Re: Editing in CCM = distorted appearances?

I also heard then if you draft a lineman they have the skinny arm problem, or overall small size problem.

If so, Say I draft a lineman and I edit him to make him bigger, will this affect my other lineman? And all lineman in the game?

Sorry if it's a dumb question or has been answered before.

[havokeff]

Re: Editing in CCM = distorted appearances?

Man, do people just not read through threads around here? lol

Anyway, after some more testing, this time with the Bears, it most certainly effects EVERY O-Line position. From simple # changes to complete body overhalls, it takes effect, EVEN though on occasion, the skinny arms didn't appear. It is difficult to tell with linemen, but the glitch seems to go the other way with showing size 10 arms in the editing screen.

The Defensive line though, it does appear that Julius Peppers at the RE position is unaffected though.

I'm going to check to see is players with distinct faces are immune or if it is simply the position.

Once I establish exactly who and what positions it is effecting, I will go deeper in the CCM and see if there are any work arounds.

[Geronimo22]

Re: Editing in CCM = distorted appearances?

Man, do people just not read through threads around here? lol

Anyway, after some more testing, this time with the Bears, it most certainly effects EVERY O-Line position. From simple # changes to complete body overhalls, it takes effect, EVEN though on occasion, the skinny arms didn't appear. It is difficult to tell with linemen, but the glitch seems to go the other way with showing size 10 arms in the editing screen.

The Defensive line though, it does appear that Julius Peppers at the RE position is unaffected though.

I'm going to check to see is players with distinct faces are immune or if it is simply the position.

Once I establish exactly who and what positions it is effecting, I will go deeper in the CCM and see if there are any work arounds.

Thanks for your research. It's much apprieciated.

Have you found out if it effects QB's? I know earlier you said it did, but it was fixable. Could you explain how? Thanks

[havokeff]

Re: Editing in CCM = distorted appearances?

Ravens:
Haloti Ngata, RE:
-No skinny arms on initial entrance into the edit screen.
-Changed belly, thigh and rear size.
-"accept & continue" pressed.

Terrence Cody, DT:
-Skinny arms present on initial entrance into the edit screen.
-Changed arm size from 0 to 10. No other changes made.
-"accept & continue" pressed.

Arthur Jones, LE:
-No skinny arms present on initial entrance into the edit screen.
-Changed thigh size from 1 to 10, changed #.
-"accept & continue" pressed.

-Enter preseason game.

Results:
Ngata: Skinny with giant arms.
Cody: Skinny with giant arms.
Jones: Skinny with giant arms.

Conclusion: On this trial I made body modifications to each player and the glitch took hold on each one. I need to test only information changes and equipment changes to get a thorough sample of the problem, but it doesn't look promising. I do believe that Ngata has a custom face like Peppers does, but the changes still took effect. I am going to go into "play now" and double check on what Peppers should look like.

[havokeff]

Re: Editing in CCM = distorted appearances?

Thanks for your research. It's much apprieciated.

Have you found out if it effects QB's? I know earlier you said it did, but it was fixable. Could you explain how? Thanks

No problem, I like this meticulous type of work. lol

As far as I can tell, QB's are fixable. They will either get 0 or 10 sized arms upon initial entrance into the edit screen, but the changes you make seem to take hold. i.e., making arm size changes back to the correct number.

[havokeff]

Re: Editing in CCM = distorted appearances?

Same CCM, coach:
Ravens:
Joe Flacco, QB:
-Skinny arms present upon initial entrance into the edit screen.
-Changed arm size from 0 to 5. No other changes made.
-"accept & continue" pressed.

Haloti Ngata, RE:
-Second edit attempt
-No Skinny arms present upon second entrance into the edit screen.
-Previous changes to belly, thigh and rear sizes present on character model and on sliders.
-Changed arm size from 10 to 0. Moved pad height and width sliders from 0 to 10 and changed sleeves from "standard" to "sleeveless".
-"accept & continue" pressed.

-Advanced week.
-Enter preseason game.

Results:
Flacco: Arm size change took hold. No other body abnormalities.
Ngata: Arm size change did not take hold. Body still abnormally skinny. Equipment changes took hold.

Conclusion on this trial:
QB's seem to be fine, although you will have to make changes once you enter the screen to make them correct before you "accept & continue".
Being a RE does not make a player immune to the glitch and I suspect that people that think this the case are playing with 4-3 style REs where it is harder to notice the difference without close examination.

[havokeff]

Re: Editing in CCM = distorted appearances?

Julius Peppers Play Now vs CCMCoach post edit:

Yes, it does indeed affect RE all around. It is just harder to notice on a 6'7" player than an 6'2" player as I am guessing the base zero model is bigger in the first place.

Here is Play Now Peppers:


And here is CCM Peppers after only editing his arm sleeves:



Note the thighs and the arms. It's not very subtle difference.