Is option run going to ruin 25?

[Sirs]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

Hopefully there is a way to coach your dline. Like set it to always go after qb or rb or leave it up to the players awareness. These plays have cheese written all over it.

[TombSong]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

What ruins the game is lazy people not willing to use the tools that are given each year.

So EA has to come out with gimmicky tools for the lazy people who can't click on and make the tackle or stop a run or get an interception on their own. There are tools for the option toooooo.

I doubt that the read option ruins the game for everybody. Maybe the guys who don't practice their stick skills suffer?

Anyways the guys in the NFL today running the option are capable pocket passers. Plus Steve Young and John Elway were scramblers who lived on the edges of the LOS. They won Championships....
And didn't Kordell Stewart get the Steelers to the Superbowl and how about Donavan McNabb?

Teamwork wins championships, dude.

I would have to agree with this. The read option is going to be something you are gonna have to actively be prepared to stop. As long as the game has tools to allow you to stop it, its fair game for people to use it as they see fit and they themseleves will have to also suffer the consequences of using it. Its your job to make them suffer those consequences. So far I have not seen no obvious exploitable way to use it. You have to put your work in to stop it, but you have to do that to stop anything in the game on either side of the ball.

If what a person runs aint a exploit, we cant cry foul because we dont yet know how to counter it or are the type of person who becomes so frustrated that you just give up and blame your opponents play style on why you are losing and not taking that long look in the mirror at your own play style and see it may be really you that needs the play style change.

Dont fear the read option, make whoever uses it pay for trying to use it against you.

The read option aint a up and coming attack in the NFL because its making defensive coordinators happy. It exists to make you feel exactly like you are feelingg now. Scared and looking for ways to stop it.

[kwabalicious]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

Not for me. I never play online in sports games (lag has too big of an impact on sports games).



Cornerback blitzes will severely limit their ability. Force the user to make the choice.

Lag mostly disappeared when the '13 games came out.

[kc10785]

I would have to agree with this. The read option is going to be something you are gonna have to actively be prepared to stop. As long as the game has tools to allow you to stop it, its fair game for people to use it as they see fit and they themseleves will have to also suffer the consequences of using it. Its your job to make them suffer those consequences. So far I have not seen no obvious exploitable way to use it. You have to put your work in to stop it, but you have to do that to stop anything in the game on either side of the ball.

If what a person runs aint a exploit, we cant cry foul because we dont yet know how to counter it or are the type of person who becomes so frustrated that you just give up and blame your opponents play style on why you are losing and not taking that long look in the mirror at your own play style and see it may be really you that needs the play style change.

Dont fear the read option, make whoever uses it pay for trying to use it against you.

The read option aint a up and coming attack in the NFL because its making defensive coordinators happy. It exists to make you feel exactly like you are feelingg now. Scared and looking for ways to stop it.

I respect that but my problem with this is if my stick skills are good why is EA not allowing me to use them. If I choose to play with the read man (DE or Outside Linebacker) Why is the game forcing me to go a certain way. I can't control the player for the first 3 to 4 seconds of the play. I just find that stupid and EA catering to the offense like usual so there new feature can have a high success rate and making players with good Defense stick skills suffer.

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[kc10785]

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[der juicen]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

No, it's not difficult to shut down both online AND offline in NCAA. I hazard to guess it will be similar in M25 and also not be extremely difficult to shut down. Of course, we will have people whom have a loud online presence and can be heard easier who will say it's unstoppable, but frankly, it is not.

Thing is that the casual gamer playing online won't spend the time to improve their stick skills. The better stick players will find a play that works and keep using that play over and over and over again. I don't believe that the gifted players should stop using that play, but I think there needs to be a system online that won't allow gifted players to play the ungifted. That's what caused me to stop playing online. I'm not going to spend the time to make my skills better if I can just play the CPU and enjoy my time playing.

Frankly, it's not Super Street Fighter 2 HD whatever. That game, you did have to have stick skills. This game, what, you have to direct your player towards the other player and run into him? Yeah, not difficult.

Now I say that, but there are people who do have a little more difficulty doing that. I admit, I do. I can't use my left hand, therefore I use my wrist to direct my player towards the ball carrier. I can still shut down a Read Option most of the time if I am set up in the correct defense.

[TombSong]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

I respect that but my problem with this is if my stick skills are good why is EA not allowing me to use them. If I choose to play with the read man (DE or Outside Linebacker) Why is the game forcing me to go a certain way. I can't control the player for the first 3 to 4 seconds of the play. I just find that stupid and EA catering to the offense like usual so there new feature can have a high success rate and making players with good Defense stick skills suffer.

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I agree that its stupid that they don't allow you control of your players at key moments. It seems to be the way they deal with other problems the game has(Nano's, Rocket Catching, etc). The reality is you we all have to learn the "Madden" way of playing offense and defense which ain't always the "make sense" way of doing things. The best we can do is manage our play style around what they have implemented else face many games of frustration. Until someone is allowed to make better NFL football game, this is what we have to put up with.

[aspengc8]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

Easy to defend. Just like in NCAA, commit the DE to crash on the RB, clean the QB up with the SS. You just have to commit someone to account for the QB.

[friscob]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

Easy to defend. Just like in NCAA, commit the DE to crash on the RB, clean the QB up with the SS. You just have to commit someone to account for the QB.

Easy to stop against the CPU. Against a talented player they are mixing this in w/ 4 wide passing plays like slants and playaction crossing routes that are equally hard to stop b/c of the bad secondary play.

The read option isn't unstoppable by itself but when mixed w/ other plays out of the same formation and a good player running the no huddle effectively it's pretty damn close

[der juicen]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

Easy to stop against the CPU. Against a talented player they are mixing this in w/ 4 wide passing plays like slants and playaction crossing routes that are equally hard to stop b/c of the bad secondary play.

The read option isn't unstoppable by itself but when mixed w/ other plays out of the same formation and a good player running the no huddle effectively it's pretty damn close

I don't see the problem. If they are a "good" player and actually mixing it up, yes, they will end up busting one on you. If they constantly call the read option over and over, they will soon find a 3rd or 4th down and a ruined drive. I mean, by your description, if I ran vanilla run plays and mixed in some passing and play action, that could be over powered.

[friscob]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

I don't see the problem. If they are a "good" player and actually mixing it up, yes, they will end up busting one on you. If they constantly call the read option over and over, they will soon find a 3rd or 4th down and a ruined drive. I mean, by your description, if I ran vanilla run plays and mixed in some passing and play action, that could be over powered.

Except vanilla run plays don't gash the defense.

[Gorilla Glass]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

Easy to stop against the CPU. Against a talented player they are mixing this in w/ 4 wide passing plays like slants and playaction crossing routes that are equally hard to stop b/c of the bad secondary play.

The read option isn't unstoppable by itself but when mixed w/ other plays out of the same formation and a good player running the no huddle effectively it's pretty damn close

A balanced offense in any set is difficult to stop. If you play a guy who goes through the play tree on offense and you are too lazy to go through the play tree on defense, then you fail.

Scheme beats everything. To be honest, I'd rather go up against a 'two play Harry,' than a balanced attack opponent, any day of the week.

[der juicen]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

Except vanilla run plays don't gash the defense.

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and disagree with this. A balanced attack means you can and mayhaps will gash with a vanilla run from Ace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFuRPNuTltQ = Vanilla bean

[aspengc8]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

Easy to stop against the CPU. Against a talented player they are mixing this in w/ 4 wide passing plays like slants and playaction crossing routes that are equally hard to stop b/c of the bad secondary play.

The read option isn't unstoppable by itself but when mixed w/ other plays out of the same formation and a good player running the no huddle effectively it's pretty damn close

I was referring to the thread question about the option run, not stopping the spread offense. IMO madden doesnt have the defensive formations designed to funnel spread teams.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Re: Is option run going to ruin 25?

I skimmed the htread but didn't notice, has anyone used the "Commit to QB" pre-snap read? Does it work?