Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

[dghustla]

Re: NEW Xbox One Gameplay Video (ESPN)

That's fine but when the EA devs speak on in interviews and such about authenticity and realism and being the most authentic realistic game ever I have a problem with it. Not just marketing, the devs themselves believe this game is the most realistic ever made and try to tell us every year that that's what their delivering and even try to bring sim guys down to give them help and feedback. It just doesn't make any sense.

If they are trying to make this arcade style game based on the NFL that's fine, but don't constantly tell me and try to sell that that isn't what you're doing. They're trying to keep the more sim style gamers in pocket with hope, while maintaing their core fanbase, which I understand, but don't respect.

I'm a sim/hardcore gamer, nerd, dork, whatever it's called these days. And yes madden can be a really annoying experience. coverage is mind boggling at times and there is a glitch is almost every aspect of the game. But there are are also some good aspects of the game as well. I honestly believe that the devs have good intentions. They want to make a more sim game, they want to make a game that could win game of the year and not be considered the laughing stock of their entire company and amongst their peers. I honestly just think they don't know how to. And it begins with understanding football. Of all the sports games out there, football is the most detailed of them all. I doubt those developers can tell you the difference between a 3 and a 5 tech or a 0 and 1 tech. or what a 2 gap NT is responsible in a 3-4. And until they get ppl in there who can explain what they see on the field the game will be what we have now. I like that they brought in a former NFL Oline to revamp the lineplay. In a few weeks we will have a video that will tell us if they can bring his knowledge to virtual life.

[Dogslax41]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

Trust me, I am with the rest of you guys getting roudier now because clearly, they were different builds and we have no idea what we are getting. My expectation level dropped from 100-49 after the recent vids

I don't even think THEY have any idea. I have never seen a game company one month before launch release marketing item after marketing item only to yank it back, delete it or pull it completely. They have now pulled two gameplay videos and countless screenshots off their website. How much confidence do you really have in a company that releases something thinking it honestly looks good and they are proud of it only to have immediate public reaction be so bad they feel the need to delete the material entirely?

[Jwest85]

I wish they would show some ps4 screenshots.

[SageInfinite]

Re: NEW Xbox One Gameplay Video (ESPN)

Is this the video that you're referring to? The E3 video looked better because of the way it was produced, and directed. The camera angle has this theatrical wobble effect.

But truth be told, I was sorely disappointed with the E3 video, and honestly anything next generation Madden has put out so far. If the below video is what anyone thinks is appropriate for next generation Madden, they have sorely set their bar extremely low. Understandably based on Maddens' track record, but this Madden E3 video still looks like a video game.

What I am personally looking forward to in the upcoming next generation consoles (PS4, XB1) is for games to blur the lines of reality and digital video games. I want "people, in game characters" whether that be sports, or any other games to be "lifelike"

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the E3 Madden video is still cartoonish, video gamey.

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I feel you, but this still looks so much better than what we've been shown lately.

Look at the way RGIII is calling out signals, never been in current gen.

The drop back is much slower and smooth, not in current gen or the footage.

The way he scans the field, definitely not in either we've seen so far.

How smoothly he transitions from pocket stance to the escape run. Again not seen.

The Lynch Juke, the way AP carries a couple ball carriers. All of this stuff was fresh and new and had me excited. While it doesn't look 100% real, it looked alot better than what we've been getting in motion. That's the stuff I was hoping to see around this time. That's the game I would've purchased for my PS4. I haven't seen any of that stuff in any of the footage that has recently been released. There's still more to be shown, but I haven't seen that stuff since E3.

[Dogslax41]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

I wish they would show some ps4 screenshots.

It's going to essentially be the exact same.

[Papa D]

Re: NEW Xbox One Gameplay Video (ESPN)

Everyone complained back in 06 when they gave us a new game with bare bone features, now everyone complains when they give us a full featured game, albeit a port, with minimal upgrades graphically.

What do you guys want them to do???

I think people had WAY too high expectations for next gen Madden and may not understand that the devs don't know the capabilities of these systems yet. First party next gen games are going to be much better graphically at first, they ALWAYS are. After a year or two the games will start to be pushed graphically and we will see much better LOOKING games. In the meantime, focus on the GAMEPLAY, the GAMEPLAY is what matters. To me, the gameplay looks pretty good, not great, but a definite improvement in terms of fluidity in movement and o/d line interactions look much improved. You can't turn a game that people are calling "trash" into "treasure" in one cycle guys. Continued improvement in gameplay and areas that matter is what we are wanting, let's hope it continues and at a faster rate, but at the same time, don't expect so much on the first iteration of a game on a new console.

Can anyone name ONE non first party title on 360 that blew you away graphically when Xbox 360 launched?

Everyone's talking about FIFA, but FIFA was a GREAT game on current gen, Madden wasn't. You have to keep these things in mind guys, it's going to take some time to get Madden on that level that we all want it to. Like I've said I don't expect it to take 5+ years to get there, I expect Madden 15 to be basically what we've been wanting, but how people could expect a port of Madden to compare to a port of FIFA is beyond my comprehension.

Really dude?? You serious?

Here's an answer.. How about for starters they try to catch up to a 10 year old(2k5) in the animations department?!! Lets start with that, sounds simple right since they did do that stuff that Madden still lacks 10 years ago?!!

[Jwest85]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

It's going to essentially be the exact same.

Well the E3 videos were played on pc due to the xbox one not being ready yet. The ps4 is more powerful and been ready to program for longer. It may be better. Only if EA sports doesn't make it water down to match the xbox one

[tfer717]

Re: NEW Xbox One Gameplay Video (ESPN)

I feel you, but this still looks so much better than what we've been shown lately.

Look at the way RGIII is calling out signals, never been in current gen.

The drop back is much slower and smooth, not in current gen or the footage.

The way he scans the field, definitely not in either we've seen so far.

How smoothly he transitions from pocket stance to the escape run. Again not seen.

The Lynch Juke, the way AP carries a couple ball carriers. All of this stuff was fresh and new and had me excited. While it doesn't look 100% real, it looked alot better than what we've been getting in motion. That's the stuff I was hoping to see around this time. That's the game I would've purchased for my PS4. I haven't seen any of that stuff in any of the footage that has recently been released. There's still more to be shown, but I haven't seen that stuff since E3.

i think ea just flat out lies about footage sometimes. Like the Kyrie NBA live 'game footage'... where he is dribbling and then all of a sudden starts to talk to the camera. How is that actual game footage? EA misleads until they can rob you.

[wordtobigbird]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

Yeah? What difficulty is this played on? Since we're going to reach and knock AI in this too?

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LOL. I could put any racing game on easy and never question if the driver had an eyes and a brain. I could put Madden on All-Madden and still wonder if the AI is even WORKING... Don't act like the difficulty level makes a difference in Madden AI. Cmon man..

have you ever played Forza?

[djordan]

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I feel you, but this still looks so much better than what we've been shown lately.

Look at the way RGIII is calling out signals, never been in current gen.

The drop back is much slower and smooth, not in current gen or the footage.

The way he scans the field, definitely not in either we've seen so far.

How smoothly he transitions from pocket stance to the escape run. Again not seen.

The Lynch Juke, the way AP carries a couple ball carriers. All of this stuff was fresh and new and had me excited. While it doesn't look 100% real, it looked alot better than what we've been getting in motion. That's the stuff I was hoping to see around this time. That's the game I would've purchased for my PS4. I haven't seen any of that stuff in any of the footage that has recently been released. There's still more to be shown, but I haven't seen that stuff since E3.

I'm dumbfounded as well Sage. Everything in that video looks like a tremendous step in the right direction compared to current gen. I have no clue what happened. Maybe they had to tone things down since it wouldn't run smoothly if kept in.

I just don't know what happened between E3 and now...

[GaryT531]

The camera angle at 0:12. That's what I'm talking about, I want to see replays/highlights from an angle like that.

[wordtobigbird]

Re: NEW Xbox One Gameplay Video (ESPN)

I like that they brought in a former NFL Oline to revamp the lineplay. In a few weeks we will have a video that will tell us if they can bring his knowledge to virtual life.

I could be wrong but didn't they bring in that o-line guy a couple of years ago? I forget his name but they started putting him in videos and saying "we have an actual olineman here blah blah blah". Not to knock your post but if hes the same guy, hes been helping them for awhile without much changing.

[LBzrule]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

I wish they would show some ps4 screenshots.

LOL, that is not going to save it. Second, SCREENSHOTS? If you are going to get a PS4 you should be asking for an actual game play video. By this time next month if you want you can have the game in your hands, even before the system is out. The game is released on 11/12 for PS4 and you have no actual game play video at all with less than a month to go.

[aholbert32]

Re: NEW Xbox One Gameplay Video (ESPN)

The best part of the vid was the end where Andrew Luck and the O linemen congratulated eachother. That looked fluid and good. Players move good in cutscenes but during actual gameplay its terrible. The more i see of this game the more disgusted I get. Im so close to cancelling my Amazon pre order but I still have this false since of hope waiting on actual gameplay from the perspective of someone with a controller.

Thats in current gen too. No difference.

[TheTruth437]

Re: NEW Xbox One Gameplay Video (ESPN)

APF2k8 was a amazing engine to build on. There are many moments where it looked real for a moment or two (Something Madden never accomplishes). Go play NBA 2k8. Imagine what APF2k would be right now if it had sold well. Next gen would have added even better gameplay and graphics. APF2k8 was a great engine, that felt rushed in graphic polish, and features. The animations would have been smoothed out through the years, just like NBA 2k8 vs NBA 2k14

I've played many hours of APF2k8 over the years. I would love to see a new APF release every year but it just didn't pan out.

There's no doubt that MLB The Show, NBA2k and FIFA have had years of good development to get where they are today. That's a big reason why they have surpassed (one and done) APF2k8 in quality imo.