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  • DirtyJerz32
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    • Aug 2007
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    #61
    Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Gameplay Trailer and Four More War in the Trenches Videos

    Looks like having speed rushers will finally mean something.

    Looks a lot better than those ESPN clips they've been showing. I feel like they should scrap those and just show these types of videos.

    Hopefully we'll get to see some WR/DB interactions soon.
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    • SB2G
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      • Sep 2003
      • 22

      #62
      Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Gameplay Trailer and Four More War in the Trenches Videos

      I think for me, those QB animations/drop backs/and scrambling animations are up there at the top of the list that need a major overhaul.

      I cannot stand when you roll with with a right/left handing QB to their non-dominant hand side. The spin or whatever the QB does looks absolutely horrible.

      I wanna' be able to do a spin out the pocket to avoid a pass rusher that Romo does all the time! Come on EA, do it for Madden 15!!

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      • charter04
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        • May 2010
        • 5740

        #63
        Finally some things that give me hope for this game. This has me convinced that EA has purposely kept things out of some of the footage so they can show bits and peaces as we move along. This wouldn't be the first time they did this. The ESPN footage is clearly last gen game play and what was seen at E3 and by the guys who visited EA is this stuff.

        I don't mind if the graphics aren't as big of a step forward. This gen's graphics have been pretty good. I just want a step forward in gameplay. I think that is what we are getting. I know some will say that things should have already been in the game well it wasn't. I don't care if double team pass block should have already been in as long as it's in now.

        These videos are why I don't jump ship or jump back on week to week. I will wait until I get all the info then make a decisions.
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        • BrianFifaFan
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          • Oct 2003
          • 4137

          #64
          Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Gameplay Trailer and Four More War in the Trenches Videos

          Really liked the "War in the Trenches" series. But you can see how they are just adjusting the existing animations. They are snapping to the next blocking assignment, not flowing. They really need a totally new set of animations. But, all things considered, I have hope for the future. They seem to be finally getting down the things that made the other game so compelling. Now they just have to build a set of animations that actually make it look fluid. They're getting there.

          Maybe JP is right. Hopefully next year they will get all of the pieces together. My biggest hope is that they will finally embrace signature animations while they sort this all out. I finally want to be able to say, "That's Peyton." Can't see his face, save a cutscene or two. But they could get his, and all of the other big QB's throwing styles down. It's that stuff that would finally get this game into "Wow!" territory, IMO. Right now, for all the improvements I just saw, something just screams "generic!" Maybe I've just been playing too much NBA2k14....
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          • The_Balm
            Formerly simon48xbox
            • May 2009
            • 585

            #65
            Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Gameplay Trailer and Four More War in the Trenches Videos

            Well, I must say this looks a lot better. I looks really good in some parts.

            I hope this is a lesson to EA's marketing and PR. Normally studios put out trailers because they don't want to show the real thing yet and usually the trailers hype it up and make it look better than all actually is. Madden is the reverse. So no more teasers and MNF videos, stick with the longer videos with camera angles that let you see something.

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            • ScalettaVinci
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              • Oct 2013
              • 6

              #66
              Honestly, if the Madden team gets the passing mechanic correct on next gen(too stiff) and the defensive player AI correct(reacting to the ball), this game would be gold. The franchise would be restored. I'm finally impressed by the progress. I may be sold at this point. Returning to Madden.

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              • dghustla
                Pro
                • Apr 2009
                • 721

                #67
                Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Gameplay Trailer and Four More War in the Trenches Videos




                This is the pass rush clip. I'm very excited from what I see here.
                1) the DE on the right using a speed rush, anticipated the T reaching out to him and swipes his arm down to prevent the block and allowing him to get great pressure. If Vick where to drop back too far it would have been a sack.

                2) The Linebacker on the right. He drops into coverage with his eyes on Vick. Then he actually turns his head to watch the outside WR and readjust his zone to his route. This is how zone defense should be played.

                This is only 1 play but at least there is something promising there.

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                • Lilgoosy
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                  • Aug 2013
                  • 40

                  #68
                  ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT AFTER ALL THESE YEARS WE ARE ABOUT TO HAVE A GOOD FOOTBALL GAME?

                  well, maybe not...but those videos are exactly what i wanted to see...and they DIDN'Y MENTIONED THE GRASPS ON THE FIELD !!!

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                  • TeeDogg
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 2283

                    #69
                    Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Gameplay Trailer

                    Originally posted by Steven78
                    The reaction here is priceless.

                    One day Madden is the worst football game ever the next day Madden is amazing and people want it now.

                    I picture the suits at EA reading this thread and high fiving saying "we won em back!"
                    don't worry, ESPN will drop another vid and it will be business as usual around here LOL

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                    • sk
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                      • Mar 2010
                      • 515

                      #70
                      Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Gameplay Trailer

                      Originally posted by bodymore
                      I'm confused. One minute it looks like crap, then it looks okay. I'm still not sure what to think about the game.
                      This is why you don't judge a game based on one trailer.

                      Those ESPN videos didn't highlight the improvements, they just showed some catch animations/run animations.

                      They didn't show the improved lineplay, but everybody assumed everything would suck
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                      • Jakeness23
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                        • Aug 2009
                        • 872

                        #71
                        Is the ball carrier still going to be able to run through those 1st and sometimes 2nd defenders like they aren't even there? Cause if a CPU player lowers their head in current gen, he's almost unstoppable no matter how small he is or how big the defender is, so I hope y'all did your physics homework for next-gen.
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                        • wordtobigbird
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                          • Sep 2008
                          • 4385

                          #72
                          Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Gameplay Trailer

                          Originally posted by krisxsong
                          This is why you don't judge a game based on one trailer.

                          Those ESPN videos didn't highlight the improvements, they just showed some catch animations/run animations.

                          They didn't show the improved lineplay, but everybody assumed everything would suck
                          People said "What we are SEEING sucks" now they are saying "What we are SEEING looks improved."

                          It isnt our fault EA put out the ****ty videos...

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                          • I_Pierre
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                            • Jun 2011
                            • 42

                            #73
                            Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Gameplay Trailer and Four More War in the Trenches Videos

                            They need to take all the QB animations, make a copy. Then, delete both of em. I cant even enjoy the amazing line play thanks to Captain dummy who can't move without twitching

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                            • munky1307
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                              • Jan 2011
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                              #74
                              Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Gameplay Trailer and Four More War in the Trenches Videos

                              At least they showed more than expected and it looked nothing like the ESPN videos. I'm at least curious to try it out.
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                              • SageInfinite
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                                • Jul 2002
                                • 11896

                                #75
                                Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Gameplay Trailer and Four More War in the Trenches Videos

                                Loved the war in the trenches stuff. The QB and running animations still leave alot to be desired for me though.



                                This whole animation just seems disconnected. Why isn't CJ looking at what he's trying to avoid? Why does it seem like his upper body and lower body were captured seperately? And lastly it looks like he's going back into that ugly base animation system they have. They really did just "stitch" together animations over the top of that UGLY locomotion they have in all EA games.
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