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  • dbeth
    MVP
    • Aug 2002
    • 2304

    #16
    Re: 2K Partners with NFLPA to Allow NFL Players in Multiple Football Games

    I'm with you in thinking NFL players in a APF-style non NFL team setup. Customize the teams all you want with the players. Heck, if you look at Ultimate Team, everyone is making their own uniforms and team names and aren't concerned about being the real teams...and that's in the "simulation" game. Let the non-sim game be generic teams that people can make into the real ones if they want.
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    • canes21
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 22930

      #17
      Re: 2K Partners with NFLPA to Allow NFL Players in Multiple Football Games

      Originally posted by zello144
      I think they can get away with a non "simulation" game instead of calling it a simulation game start calling it "realistic football" or "Virtual football" "computerized football" game something creative.
      That's not how it works. They can't just strike this deal and then call their game authentic instead of simulation and return NFL 2k because of their word choice. Simulation is defined by certain criteria that only the NFL, 2k, and EA know and we can only speculate on it. It may be that simulation gameplay is anything 11 v 11, anything with a franchise mode, or whatever the NFL defined it as with EA.
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      • canes21
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 22930

        #18
        Re: 2K Partners with NFLPA to Allow NFL Players in Multiple Football Games

        I also see on OS and other places on the internet that people are focusing on the word "multiple". I think when they refer to multiple games they just mean they'll release a game in 2021, a game in 2022, and so on. I don't think it necessarily means that they are going to release NFL Playgrounds and then another game as well.
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        • J_Posse
          Greatness Personified
          • Jun 2005
          • 11255

          #19
          Re: 2K Partners with NFLPA to Allow NFL Players in Multiple Football Games

          I think the low bar is a Playgrounds type game, but that won't move the needle enough to warrant a deal with the NFL/NFLPA (IMO).

          I think a MyTeam and/or MyCareer experience, which EA is already or has targeted with Madden NFL, is a strong possibility. The issue is that wouldn't appease the sim heads, so not sure how they could also target us or their previous audience from the APF/NFL 2K days.

          I'm happy they officially announced this deal, though. We'll probably find out sometime early next year what type of game it'll be.

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          • TheRandomOne
            Rookie
            • Jan 2013
            • 58

            #20
            Re: 2K Partners with NFLPA to Allow NFL Players in Multiple Football Games

            What exactly is football simulation ? Can no one else make 4 quarter games etc ? Even if thats the case why not just do things like NFL Blitz style games. Let the Madden nuts have Madden & let 2k bring back the fun in Football

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            • Kanobi
              H*F Cl*ss *f '09
              • Apr 2003
              • 6054

              #21
              Re: 2K Partners with NFLPA to Allow NFL Players in Multiple Football Games

              If the "simulation" football stipulation is only attached to the NFL license and not the NFLPA, then the door is open for 2k to make a pro football sim using current NFL players.

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              • J_Posse
                Greatness Personified
                • Jun 2005
                • 11255

                #22
                Re: 2K Partners with NFLPA to Allow NFL Players in Multiple Football Games

                Originally posted by Kanobi
                If the "simulation" football stipulation is only attached to the NFL license and not the NFLPA, then the door is open for 2k to make a pro football sim using current NFL players.
                Right, I was thinking the same thing last night. They could just go the Madden 64, Madden NFL prior to 95 (or 96 whenever they acquired the official NFL license) and old school Tecmo route and just use the NFLPA license to make a "sim" alternative.

                A lot is in the cards and it depends on what they think can generate the most revenue & make these like deals most fruitful. Which I believe a 'Playgrounds' type game alone will not. Of course could be completely wrong and that is exactly (and only) what they give us.

                I hope they are smarter than that and figure out how to fully optimize both this "non-sim" NFL & the - separate but just as valuable - NFLPA license.

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                • ksuttonjr76
                  All Star
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 8662

                  #23
                  Re: 2K Partners with NFLPA to Allow NFL Players in Multiple Football Games

                  In my mind, using fictional stadiums and teams would make the game "non-simulation" since it's not attempt to exactly replicate the NFL. The agreement with the Union gives them the right to use all the current players in any fashion they feel fit. The agreement with the NFL just says that the game is sponsored by the NFL.

                  It's really depends on how much of a middle finger that Take 2 is willing to give EA. There is way too many loopholes that Take Two can fall behind. I'm trying to imagine how this would play out in a court of law.

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                  • canes21
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 22930

                    #24
                    Re: 2K Partners with NFLPA to Allow NFL Players in Multiple Football Games

                    Whole lot of speculation going on right now. We don't really know what 2k is allowed to do and what they aren't allowed to do. It would be shocking to me if 2k were to make multiple games each year and for one to be a game that had all of the players, just no real team names or NFL branding and was basically 2k football brought back. I'd be happy, but I am only going to believe we're getting NFL Playgrounds until proven otherwise. I don't want to set myself up and expect too much.
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                    • milkmanbonzai
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2017
                      • 138

                      #25
                      I feel sympathy for anyone here who think 2K has a chance to make anything regarding "real" football. They're not; if you're a big enough sports game fan to be on OS, then you know what the line of sim and non-sim is already. It's clearly a Playgrounds and SuperCard deal and to think otherwise is simply a waste of your time and energy and only setting you up for disappointment. 

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                      • Kanobi
                        H*F Cl*ss *f '09
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 6054

                        #26
                        Re: 2K Partners with NFLPA to Allow NFL Players in Multiple Football Games

                        Originally posted by canes21
                        It would be shocking to me if 2k were to make multiple games each year and for one to be a game that had all of the players, just no real team names or NFL branding and was basically 2k football brought back.
                        Them releasing "multiple games each year" is unlikely. But an NFLPA licensed pro football sim is not at all difficult to fathom.

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                        • bubbachuck
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 912

                          #27
                          Re: 2K Partners with NFLPA to Allow NFL Players in Multiple Football Games

                          I just hope it's something different... Sure NFL Blitz style games were entertaining (and I'm sure we will most likely get NFL Playgrounds), but arcade football games never scratched my itch of pretending to be Barry Sanders as a kid.

                          I hope they come up with something that can include realistic player movements and mechanics but just not in the NFL stadiums. Maybe like a 7 on 7 park football thing with realistic player movements and tackling just no pads. You could still run a season/league/MyTeam or create a player and have like Pro-Am teams mixed with Stars (that you would probably have to unlock with VC knowing 2k hahaha) and created players. Maybe have different field types like traditional grass or beach football. Maybe even a flag football mode... Like NFL intramurals... Hahaha I don't know, just something...

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                          • bubbachuck
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 912

                            #28
                            Re: 2K Partners with NFLPA to Allow NFL Players in Multiple Football Games

                            Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                            Just make Coming To America’s version of McDowell’s


                            -First downs: 9 yards instead of 10
                            -TD: 7 points instead of 6
                            -FG: 2 points instead of 3

                            And full uniform editing.
                            "My footballs have no laces"

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                            • jfsolo
                              Live Action, please?
                              • May 2003
                              • 12965

                              #29
                              Re: 2K Partners with NFLPA to Allow NFL Players in Multiple Football Games

                              The ideas of some folks here would keep the lawyers for Take Two and EA living in the lap of luxury.
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                              • pietasterp
                                All Star
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 6244

                                #30
                                Re: 2K Partners with NFLPA to Allow NFL Players in Multiple Football Games

                                I have no interest whatsoever in non-sim football in any way, but I will buy this game out of spite. Which I realize is stupid, but.....I don't have anything smart to say in response to that. But I'm gonna do it anyway.

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