5 Overrated Aspects of NFL 2k5

[idigfoo9]

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I think this discussion has been put to bed. However, I have a thread in the non-sports section about how Citizen Kane is overrated and compared to the movies that are out today it is archaic. If you want to discuss meet me over there.

[TarHeelPhenom]

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lmao some of you guys are so childish, I mean HOW DARE I challenge the notion that 2k5 is the greatest football game of all time, right? Its kinda like when a rapper dies and everyone calls them “the greatest of all time”, but 2k5 is the rapper in this situation lol


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Except 2k5 isn't dead. it's very much alive just like other classic games. Guys are revamping the game much like NCAA 14 has been revamped and now NCAA 06 is being revamped. People still play those games on the reg. I just don't understand the purpose of "challenging" 2k5 on the 2k5 forum in order to boost up Madden, when you've already expressed how you felt about it on the Madden forum. Again, I don't think this would happen or even be allowed on the Madden forum. If someone came along and "challenged" Madden in this manner in order to boost NFL 2k5, I believe the mods would probably come along and shut it down quickly. That's just my opinion.

[speedy9386]

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lmao some of you guys are so childish, I mean HOW DARE I challenge the notion that 2k5 is the greatest football game of all time, right? Its kinda like when a rapper dies and everyone calls them “the greatest of all time”, but 2k5 is the rapper in this situation lol


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I think the notion is 2k5 was great for it's time. I don't think anyone's saying that it's better than today's Madden. Makes little sense comparing games damn near 20 years apart. I'm sure there are people that think it would be way ahead if it were still being made which I think is fair to say.

[AUChase]

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Full disclosure: The only reason I even played NFL 2K5 was because as a kid the number of new games I could get every year was limited. I blew the budget on NCAA and was able to scrape up $20 for NFL 2K5.

It turned out to be a great decision and good times were had. I wasn't thinking critically about it like some others seemed to be. It really wasn't that deep for me as a kid.. games were either fun or not fun. I did spend a lot of time running and playing in LeagueDaddy dot com leagues though.

I played the game a few months ago with the few visual mods out now and it holds up surprisingly well at 60 FPS. I've went back and played some other games from that era and somehow 2K holds up the best of the sports games.

I say this with zero hyperbole that I think the running game is more fun in 2K than Madden 22 is right now. My one big complaint with the movement is the QB drop back/scramble/roll out animations. I can't tell you the last time a stiff arm actually worked for me in Madden 22. If I can't lower my head then there's no real shot of breaking the tackle. I sort of miss when the running game was more arcade like. I'm probably one of the few people that misses the way games used to be before the right stick became important. When NCAA 06 came out I still used NCAA 05 controls for a long time.

[JackSL97]

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I think the notion is 2k5 was great for it's time. I don't think anyone's saying that it's better than today's Madden. Makes little sense comparing games damn near 20 years apart. I'm sure there are people that think it would be way ahead if it were still being made which I think is fair to say.

Umm...yeah, check the comments section on youtube, A LOT of people think 2k5 is better than madden 22


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[Madden08PCgmr]

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Umm...yeah, check the comments section on youtube, A LOT of people think 2k5 is better than madden 22

Are people not entitled to that opinion?

[JackSL97]

5 Overrated Aspects of NFL 2k5

Except 2k5 isn't dead. it's very much alive just like other classic games. Guys are revamping the game much like NCAA 14 has been revamped and now NCAA 06 is being revamped. People still play those games on the reg. I just don't understand the purpose of "challenging" 2k5 on the 2k5 forum in order to boost up Madden, when you've already expressed how you felt about it on the Madden forum. Again, I don't think this would happen or even be allowed on the Madden forum. If someone came along and "challenged" Madden in this manner in order to boost NFL 2k5, I believe the mods would probably come along and shut it down quickly. That's just my opinion.

2k5 was the last game in the 2k series therefore its been dead since EA signed the exclusive license, you can mod it all you want but its still 2k5 at the end of the day...2k5 mods are essentially Biggie and Tupac remixes, you could change the colors of uniforms to match modern-day jerseys just like you could mix some Tupac acapellas with trap beats, but to put it bluntly you aren’t getting any new Tupac verses anytime soon....


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[JackSL97]

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Are people not entitled to that opinion?

people are entitled to any opinion they want, but my point is quite a few people still view 2k5 as competition to madden and legitimately compare the two games year-in and year-out...I made this thread to challenge the notion that 2k5 was as great as people say it was and I would even dare say madden 05 was the better overall game


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[canes21]

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you’re forgetting madden is a video game and performance-based progression was and always will be the best way to simulate what happens in real life because of the limitation of video games themselves, which are dealing with artificial intelligence and not living breathing human beings...your not taking into account that there will never be a such thing as virtual PEDs and virtual steroids ie Laron Landry/David Boston to account for why certain players had monster seasons and then fell way off the radar just a few years later...your not taking into account guys having 3 great years, then they sign a huge contract and they get lazy and never perform at that level again...madden’s NEVER gonna truly duplicate what you see in real life because of the limitations of AI and the nfl itself not wanting certain things depicted in their game as they love to hide behind their pretentious “clean” public image



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This is your opinion and I disagree with it.

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[canes21]

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I literally proved to you already that the progression system was broken by giving you the example with Larry Fitzgerald always becoming 90+ overall...progression isn’t supposed to be FIXED in franchise mode yet it clearly was in 2k...Gameprep itself is heavily tied in to in-season progression and that’s broken as well hence progression for the most part is simply broken in 2k5...



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That doesn't prove it is broken. That just proves that you don't like how one player seemingly always progressed to their potential in game.

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[JackSL97]

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That doesn't prove it is broken. That just proves that you don't like how one player seemingly always progressed to their potential in game.

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It wasn’t just Fitzgerald, there were multiple players who would progress into the 90s regardless of their status on the depth chart...fixed progression is a fatal flaw to have in any sports game’s franchise mode as it takes away control from the user to be able to progress the players via performance incentives or development drills, neither of which were in 2k5


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[canes21]

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It wasn’t just Fitzgerald, there were multiple players who would progress into the 90s regardless of their status on the depth chart...fixed progression is a fatal flaw to have in any sports game’s franchise mode as it takes away control from the user to be able to progress the players via performance incentives or development drills, neither of which were in 2k5


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Again, this is an opinion. I disagree with your opinion.

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[Madden08PCgmr]

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people are entitled to any opinion they want, but my point is quite a few people still view 2k5 as competition to madden and legitimately compare the two games year-in and year-out...I made this thread to challenge the notion that 2k5 was as great as people say it was and I would even dare say madden 05 was the better overall game

I was Madden all the way in 2004. Madden 2005 remains one of my favorite games of the series. I've probably played a grand total of 12 hours of 2k5.

But, people still mod and play it. People still mod and play M2005 for that matter. Thats a slap to EAs mouth, as I see it. 18 year-old games? C'mon.

Madden can't even stamp Tecmo Bowl out. Over 30 years old! Prehistoric, 16-bit. Joe Montana was still winning Super Bowls when that was released.

I think the moral of all this is, football gaming should be light years ahead of where we are today.

If people want to/have to go back to 2k to get their football fix, more power to them.

[TarHeelPhenom]

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people are entitled to any opinion they want, but my point is quite a few people still view 2k5 as competition to madden and legitimately compare the two games year-in and year-out...I made this thread to challenge the notion that 2k5 was as great as people say it was and I would even dare say madden 05 was the better overall game


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It ain't about competition man. So, question...would it be competition for someone to say they like or have more fun with Madden 08 on PC versus Madden 22? Would Madden be competing against itself? There is nothing wrong with someone saying a certain game is better to them than Madden 22 if that's what they feel. Since you bring music up, I'm not into hip-hop anymore, but if I were I would most definitely choose hip-hop music that came out in the late 80's-early 2000's over what's out in 2022. That would be my taste, my choice and that's okay. Same thing with the MJ and Lebron comparisons. Same with video games. The beautiful thing is we get to pick and choose what WE as individuals think is best for us.

[Madden08PCgmr]

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And I think you are overlooking another aspect here;

Madden 22 can't give me the football game I want.

I'm not interested in every team making the Playoffs
I don't want every team to get 8 possessions in overtime, beacuse, fairness..
I'll skip 6 WR formations, running unstoppable quick slant patterns
88 pass attempts per game, beacuse, who runs it anymore
(yes, I'm completely exaggerating here)

I'm most interested in retro seasons. I am essentially past the point where ANY new football game can give me what I want to experience.

If Head Coach 09 got a graphic mod, I would play that until the end of time. That is the best football game EA has ever made, IMO.