APF 2K9: What Could Have Been

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  • Valdarez
    All Star
    • Feb 2008
    • 5075

    #61
    Re: APF 2K9: What Could Have Been

    Originally posted by CPRoark
    I think that ultimately, we want APF or 2K5 or whatever, simply because its an alternative to Madden. However, fans aren't going to accept it without substance, whether its football gods or fictitious leagues.
    I agree with the substance part, but not the alternative to Madden.

    2K Sports continues to provide the better game play, and the most realistic football simulation experience. For die hard gamers, it really gets down to those two things, and it's those two items that Madden has failed to deliver on year, after year, after year. Nearly 5 years after APF2K5 and Madden's producers are claiming they still can't match what Visual Concepts has done in various areas of the game.

    The game must have substance though, and yes, Franchise support. The thought of having a tiered system for players, and taking a player from scrub level to Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum level needs to be better thought out and incorporated into the game plan.

    I really enjoyed Blitz the leagues take on their game, with the story backdrops, and intro's to the football games. It was well done, and somewhat story driven. This needs to be the hook for the next rev of the football game. Story driven, based on dynamic events with random players and team interactions as the story drivers, and yes, some type of broad casting mixed heavily throughout the season to raise the presentation / broadcast level of the game.

    With the cost of license exclusivity, and even the high cost of the NFL Legends they signed, making a game that way diverts a lot of resources from development to content. If you're going to make a game, why pay for content, when you can get it for free?

    I'll have a website (yes, full website made from Mind Manager, so nothing fancy, but traversable and well laid out) and an article to walk through many of the ideas that I harvested from the forums, laced with my own take up here in a couple of weeks, so you can throw stones at it.
    Last edited by Valdarez; 07-31-2008, 03:55 PM.
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    • Blzer
      Resident film pundit
      • Mar 2004
      • 42520

      #62
      Who typed this? I don't mean to not be on the topic at hand, but "could of" instead of "could have?" And the other announcer is Peter, not Keith.

      But yes, APF 2K9 really could have been special.
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      • asu666
        Pro
        • Jul 2008
        • 700

        #63
        I miss you 2K Football!! '''''

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        • stead21
          Rookie
          • Mar 2005
          • 266

          #64
          Re: APF 2K9: What Could Have Been

          Originally posted by asu666
          APF 2K10 needs to drop the Legends and all ties to the NFL. 2K should release the best playing football game on the market and turn the presentation up to a ten like they did on 2K5. Without the Legends or an official TV partner, the game with be a lot cheaper to make and they can focus on a stadium creator, franchise mode option (league options), player editor/ creator, and file sharing. 2K only needs to build the best playing game and let the community edit it and share the files. Cheap to make and easy to love.
          The idea that your bringing to that table is not a bad at all. I mean the great basketball game ever in my opinion is not NBA 2K, but Run N Gun 2 for the arcade. That game has zero real NBA players. But in regards to APF 2K8, I love the aspect of old school players, that I watched growing up and playing with them on APF 2K8! I think this game could really go to the next level especially looking at the aspect of how players get inducted into the hall of fame and just the large number of outstanding football players from back in the day. I mean you have players like Bo Jackson and Jim Brown that didn't make the cut, but still can make it in future 2K games.

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          • jyoung
            Hall Of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 11132

            #65
            Re: APF 2K9: What Could Have Been

            It's sad that people need fluff like franchise mode and NFL/NFLPA licenses to enjoy a football video game.

            Gameplay comes before features. Always.

            That's why All Pro Football remains my most-played 360 game, over a year into its lifespan:

            it remains unmatched in terms of how well it plays on the field. No video game to date simulates the sport of football as well as All Pro does.

            I wonder if some of you people would even play sports games at all if you grew up in the 8-16 bit era where league licenses were hard to come by and modes of play rarely extended beyond the typical season and exhibition matches.

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            • kantshootrite
              Rookie
              • May 2007
              • 139

              #66
              Re: APF 2K9: What Could Have Been

              Originally posted by wEEman33
              It's sad that people need fluff like franchise mode and NFL/NFLPA licenses to enjoy a football video game.

              Gameplay comes before features. Always.

              That's why All Pro Football remains my most-played 360 game, over a year into its lifespan:

              it remains unmatched in terms of how well it plays on the field. No video game to date simulates the sport of football as well as All Pro does.

              I wonder if some of you people would even play sports games at all if you grew up in the 8-16 bit era where league licenses were hard to come by and modes of play rarely extended beyond the typical season and exhibition matches.
              Yeah but that was the 8-16 bit era franchise is not fluff it's a necessity.It add's to the experience plain & simple I agree it's the best football game-play ever but it needs franchise.

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              • Goffs
                New Ork Giants
                • Feb 2003
                • 12279

                #67
                Re: APF 2K9: What Could Have Been

                Originally posted by Blzer
                Who typed this? I don't mean to not be on the topic at hand, but "could of" instead of "could have?" And the other announcer is Peter, not Keith.

                But yes, APF 2K9 really could have been special.
                8lzer thats an awesome avatar lol

                oh and i wish they had a 2k9 as well

                BAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWW

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