What happened to the play books

**Dark_Lord_Vader** · 02-04-2004, 09:50 AM

Re: What happened to the play books

Hey Willie!

You could not be more correct and on the money. Those of us who started with NFL2k from the Dreamcast days were treated to the most innovative and easy-to-use feature ever to be introduced in an NFL video game-OTFPC. (On The Field Play Calling) Sega took the tedious, mundane and hard-to-follow 3-pane book play calling found in every single NFL title to date, and turned it into a slick-looking, fast and easy-to-read play calling milestone. How cool was it that we could preview the play we were calling RIGHT THERE ON THE FIELD WHERE WE ARE PLAYING? Brilliant! Gone were the days of flipping through page after page of plays we never use, just to get to the one we want. With OTFPC, you just higlight and click. No reason to worry about pushing Y for this play, A for that play. Not to mention the fact that your play is displayed on screen, one at a time and super-sized so you can really see if the play has the potential of netting you a first down.

Enter ESPN and the fall of our OTFPC. Damn. 4 years of efficiency gone in the blink of an eye.

Now, I recognize there are some gamers out there that are comfortable with the step backwards that Sega took with this title, in a poor attempt to get a few Madden dollars. The only logical solution to this problem is to offer BOTH for NFL2k5. An option that can hopefully be done for this year's title. When you first pop in NFL2k5, you now have the option of selecting your play calling type; Book or Aim-N-Shoot. Now ALL NFL2kers are happy! The birds sing! The earth is good and my OTFPC is home once more! JOY!

**wwharton** · 02-04-2004, 01:17 PM

Re: What happened to the play books

hey vader, do you know what OTFPC is? i think what you're talking about is the way the plays are displayed on the play calling screen. I also liked the old way but it's not much to adjust to the new way. but OTFPC is basically setting your audibles on the "fly" which hasn't been taken out, just changed. it is more confusing than it was last year but it's still in the game. one benefit to the new set up is the ability to sub players in and out for different positions. i'd imagine that'd be much more difficult with the old display.

**wwharton** · 02-04-2004, 01:17 PM

Re: What happened to the play books

hey vader, do you know what OTFPC is? i think what you're talking about is the way the plays are displayed on the play calling screen. I also liked the old way but it's not much to adjust to the new way. but OTFPC is basically setting your audibles on the "fly" which hasn't been taken out, just changed. it is more confusing than it was last year but it's still in the game. one benefit to the new set up is the ability to sub players in and out for different positions. i'd imagine that'd be much more difficult with the old display.

**wwharton** · 02-04-2004, 01:17 PM

Re: What happened to the play books

hey vader, do you know what OTFPC is? i think what you're talking about is the way the plays are displayed on the play calling screen. I also liked the old way but it's not much to adjust to the new way. but OTFPC is basically setting your audibles on the "fly" which hasn't been taken out, just changed. it is more confusing than it was last year but it's still in the game. one benefit to the new set up is the ability to sub players in and out for different positions. i'd imagine that'd be much more difficult with the old display.

**jmood88** · 02-04-2004, 03:53 PM

Re: What happened to the play books

They have the same playbooks except for they added some more plays. The only difference is that it looks much better. I still own nfl2k3 and I've played it and the play calling screen looks terrible. And if you play with other people they can see what play you were calling.

**jmood88** · 02-04-2004, 03:53 PM

Re: What happened to the play books

They have the same playbooks except for they added some more plays. The only difference is that it looks much better. I still own nfl2k3 and I've played it and the play calling screen looks terrible. And if you play with other people they can see what play you were calling.

**jmood88** · 02-04-2004, 03:53 PM

Re: What happened to the play books

They have the same playbooks except for they added some more plays. The only difference is that it looks much better. I still own nfl2k3 and I've played it and the play calling screen looks terrible. And if you play with other people they can see what play you were calling.

**bronxct1** · 02-04-2004, 05:01 PM

Re: What happened to the play books

the play calling screen is so much better this year then years past. is it really needed to cover the whole screen with one play? plus it was horrible for multiplayer.

i think the play books are much better this year too. The giants play book for example is focused around shockey and short quick passing routes, which is pretty much what their offense was this year.

**bronxct1** · 02-04-2004, 05:01 PM

Re: What happened to the play books

the play calling screen is so much better this year then years past. is it really needed to cover the whole screen with one play? plus it was horrible for multiplayer.

i think the play books are much better this year too. The giants play book for example is focused around shockey and short quick passing routes, which is pretty much what their offense was this year.

**bronxct1** · 02-04-2004, 05:01 PM

Re: What happened to the play books

the play calling screen is so much better this year then years past. is it really needed to cover the whole screen with one play? plus it was horrible for multiplayer.

i think the play books are much better this year too. The giants play book for example is focused around shockey and short quick passing routes, which is pretty much what their offense was this year.

**Dark_Lord_Vader** · 02-05-2004, 04:43 PM

Re: What happened to the play books

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
hey vader, do you know what OTFPC is?

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes I do. It is an acronym I invented. It stands for 'On The Field Play Calling'. In essence, it means the plays you are calling are displayed for you on the actual field of play, as opposed to a book format. Now I know that 2k4 gives you a 'fake field' box where your plays are displayed, but it is pretty much just a larger version of the book system. OTFPC allows you to see your play to scale on the field itself so you can really get a feel for how the play should be executed.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
I think what you're talking about is the way the plays are displayed on the play calling screen.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes, that is another way of putting it.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
I also liked the old way but it's not much to adjust to the new way.

<hr /></blockquote>

It's a lot to adjust to when you have been using the same one for four years and you were comfortable and happy with it exactly the way it was. I can't tell you how many times I call the wrong play because I am in a hurry-up situation and I am viewing one play in the large preview pane, and accidentally push the wrong corresponding button. (Xbox: X,Y,B)

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
but OTFPC is basically setting your audibles on the "fly" which hasn't been taken out, just changed.

<hr /></blockquote>

No. That is something different. That is 'On The Fly Audibles'. A totally different animal.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
one benefit to the new set up is the ability to sub players in and out for different positions.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes. I like this one too. But there is no reason why it could not have stayed with OTFPC. You can have both.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
i'd imagine that'd be much more difficult with the old display.

<hr /></blockquote>

Actually, it would be easier. Example (Xbox):

Left Analog Stick: Move your cursor.

A Button: Select

B Button: Back up one page/selection.

Y Button: Flip Play

X Button: Sub In RBs/DLs (Depending on offense or defense. Push over and over to cycle through your desired substitution.)

White Button: Sub in TEs/LBs (Depending on offense or defense. Push over and over to cycle through your desired substitution.)

Black Button: Sub in WRs/DBs (Depending on offense or defense. Push over and over to cycle through your desired substitution.)

Left Trigger: Cycle through available playbook pages to the left.

Right Trigger: Cycle through available playbook pages to the right.

See? This saves you two more button presses during a play call. Because you would not have to choose from 3 buttons (X,Y,B) to call your play. You just have to press 'A' to select your highlighted item/play.

I recognize that this is probably a losing battle for me because most of the NFL2kers like the new 3-pane system. I am hoping that if I yell loud enough, Sega will hear me and give me BOTH for NFL2k5.

**Dark_Lord_Vader** · 02-05-2004, 04:43 PM

Re: What happened to the play books

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
hey vader, do you know what OTFPC is?

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes I do. It is an acronym I invented. It stands for 'On The Field Play Calling'. In essence, it means the plays you are calling are displayed for you on the actual field of play, as opposed to a book format. Now I know that 2k4 gives you a 'fake field' box where your plays are displayed, but it is pretty much just a larger version of the book system. OTFPC allows you to see your play to scale on the field itself so you can really get a feel for how the play should be executed.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
I think what you're talking about is the way the plays are displayed on the play calling screen.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes, that is another way of putting it.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
I also liked the old way but it's not much to adjust to the new way.

<hr /></blockquote>

It's a lot to adjust to when you have been using the same one for four years and you were comfortable and happy with it exactly the way it was. I can't tell you how many times I call the wrong play because I am in a hurry-up situation and I am viewing one play in the large preview pane, and accidentally push the wrong corresponding button. (Xbox: X,Y,B)

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
but OTFPC is basically setting your audibles on the "fly" which hasn't been taken out, just changed.

<hr /></blockquote>

No. That is something different. That is 'On The Fly Audibles'. A totally different animal.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
one benefit to the new set up is the ability to sub players in and out for different positions.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes. I like this one too. But there is no reason why it could not have stayed with OTFPC. You can have both.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
i'd imagine that'd be much more difficult with the old display.

<hr /></blockquote>

Actually, it would be easier. Example (Xbox):

Left Analog Stick: Move your cursor.

A Button: Select

B Button: Back up one page/selection.

Y Button: Flip Play

X Button: Sub In RBs/DLs (Depending on offense or defense. Push over and over to cycle through your desired substitution.)

White Button: Sub in TEs/LBs (Depending on offense or defense. Push over and over to cycle through your desired substitution.)

Black Button: Sub in WRs/DBs (Depending on offense or defense. Push over and over to cycle through your desired substitution.)

Left Trigger: Cycle through available playbook pages to the left.

Right Trigger: Cycle through available playbook pages to the right.

See? This saves you two more button presses during a play call. Because you would not have to choose from 3 buttons (X,Y,B) to call your play. You just have to press 'A' to select your highlighted item/play.

I recognize that this is probably a losing battle for me because most of the NFL2kers like the new 3-pane system. I am hoping that if I yell loud enough, Sega will hear me and give me BOTH for NFL2k5.

**Dark_Lord_Vader** · 02-05-2004, 04:43 PM

Re: What happened to the play books

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
hey vader, do you know what OTFPC is?

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes I do. It is an acronym I invented. It stands for 'On The Field Play Calling'. In essence, it means the plays you are calling are displayed for you on the actual field of play, as opposed to a book format. Now I know that 2k4 gives you a 'fake field' box where your plays are displayed, but it is pretty much just a larger version of the book system. OTFPC allows you to see your play to scale on the field itself so you can really get a feel for how the play should be executed.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
I think what you're talking about is the way the plays are displayed on the play calling screen.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes, that is another way of putting it.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
I also liked the old way but it's not much to adjust to the new way.

<hr /></blockquote>

It's a lot to adjust to when you have been using the same one for four years and you were comfortable and happy with it exactly the way it was. I can't tell you how many times I call the wrong play because I am in a hurry-up situation and I am viewing one play in the large preview pane, and accidentally push the wrong corresponding button. (Xbox: X,Y,B)

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
but OTFPC is basically setting your audibles on the "fly" which hasn't been taken out, just changed.

<hr /></blockquote>

No. That is something different. That is 'On The Fly Audibles'. A totally different animal.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
one benefit to the new set up is the ability to sub players in and out for different positions.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes. I like this one too. But there is no reason why it could not have stayed with OTFPC. You can have both.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
wwharton said:
i'd imagine that'd be much more difficult with the old display.

<hr /></blockquote>

Actually, it would be easier. Example (Xbox):

Left Analog Stick: Move your cursor.

A Button: Select

B Button: Back up one page/selection.

Y Button: Flip Play

X Button: Sub In RBs/DLs (Depending on offense or defense. Push over and over to cycle through your desired substitution.)

White Button: Sub in TEs/LBs (Depending on offense or defense. Push over and over to cycle through your desired substitution.)

Black Button: Sub in WRs/DBs (Depending on offense or defense. Push over and over to cycle through your desired substitution.)

Left Trigger: Cycle through available playbook pages to the left.

Right Trigger: Cycle through available playbook pages to the right.

See? This saves you two more button presses during a play call. Because you would not have to choose from 3 buttons (X,Y,B) to call your play. You just have to press 'A' to select your highlighted item/play.

I recognize that this is probably a losing battle for me because most of the NFL2kers like the new 3-pane system. I am hoping that if I yell loud enough, Sega will hear me and give me BOTH for NFL2k5.

**jmood88** · 02-05-2004, 05:18 PM

Re: What happened to the play books

I played the same game you did since the series came out and it's not hard to adjust at all to the new play calling screen.

**jmood88** · 02-05-2004, 05:18 PM

Re: What happened to the play books

I played the same game you did since the series came out and it's not hard to adjust at all to the new play calling screen.

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