Too bad this isn't a chess match

[ZILLION]

Re: Too bad this isn\'t a chess match

ESPN Videogames is Visual Concepts. They have their own marketing division.

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http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/06/25/news_6101436.html

This year, Take-Two and developer Visual Concepts hope to level the playing field by offering ESPN NFL 2K5 at the price of $19.99. We asked Take-Two president Paul Eibeler and Visual Concepts' marketing boss Steve Raab to explain the move.

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Visual Concepts Entertainment is the maker of the critically acclaimed 2K series of sports games. The company is responsible for the full development AND MARKETING for all ESPN Videogames titles and is committed to delivering the best, fully integrated sports gaming experience for all consumers. Visual Concepts Entertainment is wholly owned by Japan-based SEGA Corporation.

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[deejay8595]

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Jistic said:
Believe me, you haven't heard the last from EA on Madden yet. Not by a longshot. And remember, the gamer that doens't read message boards doesn't know about any of this. They've never seen a movie. They will get their first taste via a TV ad, or a store shelf.

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[deejay8595]

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Jistic said:
Believe me, you haven't heard the last from EA on Madden yet. Not by a longshot. And remember, the gamer that doens't read message boards doesn't know about any of this. They've never seen a movie. They will get their first taste via a TV ad, or a store shelf.

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[deejay8595]

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Jistic said:
Believe me, you haven't heard the last from EA on Madden yet. Not by a longshot. And remember, the gamer that doens't read message boards doesn't know about any of this. They've never seen a movie. They will get their first taste via a TV ad, or a store shelf.

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[spankdatazz22]

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Jistic said:
Believe me, you haven't heard the last from EA on Madden yet. Not by a longshot. And remember, the gamer that doens't read message boards doesn't know about any of this. They've never seen a movie. They will get their first taste via a TV ad, or a store shelf.

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I agree; that's why I said given all that they have done, the info hasn't reached the majority of football game buyers. That's why I think it'll be interesting to see what direction the tv/print campaigns take. I do think part of the reason we haven't seen any gameplay info from Madden at this point is in part because they don't want side-by-side comparisons to occur. I read a thread over at MM a week or so ago that seemed to allude to them being asked NOT to post gameplay video from E3. Not that ESPN is so much better or anything; just that it could work more against EA if people are out there confirming that Madden 2005 is too much like last year's game (most of the changes as we know are fixes to previous years problems). There hasn't even been much info on NCAA, and the movies of that game aren't anything to get overly excited about.

I fully expect EA to use a scorched earth approach as the release draws closer - they'll try to fill Madden ads everywhere in hopes of drowning out anything ESPN can put together. I'm sure they'll try everything they can to keep Madden fans' eyes from "straying". I'm not an EA/Madden basher or anything; just would like to see either game given a chance based on it's merits.

[spankdatazz22]

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Jistic said:
Believe me, you haven't heard the last from EA on Madden yet. Not by a longshot. And remember, the gamer that doens't read message boards doesn't know about any of this. They've never seen a movie. They will get their first taste via a TV ad, or a store shelf.

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I agree; that's why I said given all that they have done, the info hasn't reached the majority of football game buyers. That's why I think it'll be interesting to see what direction the tv/print campaigns take. I do think part of the reason we haven't seen any gameplay info from Madden at this point is in part because they don't want side-by-side comparisons to occur. I read a thread over at MM a week or so ago that seemed to allude to them being asked NOT to post gameplay video from E3. Not that ESPN is so much better or anything; just that it could work more against EA if people are out there confirming that Madden 2005 is too much like last year's game (most of the changes as we know are fixes to previous years problems). There hasn't even been much info on NCAA, and the movies of that game aren't anything to get overly excited about.

I fully expect EA to use a scorched earth approach as the release draws closer - they'll try to fill Madden ads everywhere in hopes of drowning out anything ESPN can put together. I'm sure they'll try everything they can to keep Madden fans' eyes from "straying". I'm not an EA/Madden basher or anything; just would like to see either game given a chance based on it's merits.

[spankdatazz22]

Re: Too bad this isn\'t a chess match

</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
Jistic said:
Believe me, you haven't heard the last from EA on Madden yet. Not by a longshot. And remember, the gamer that doens't read message boards doesn't know about any of this. They've never seen a movie. They will get their first taste via a TV ad, or a store shelf.

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I agree; that's why I said given all that they have done, the info hasn't reached the majority of football game buyers. That's why I think it'll be interesting to see what direction the tv/print campaigns take. I do think part of the reason we haven't seen any gameplay info from Madden at this point is in part because they don't want side-by-side comparisons to occur. I read a thread over at MM a week or so ago that seemed to allude to them being asked NOT to post gameplay video from E3. Not that ESPN is so much better or anything; just that it could work more against EA if people are out there confirming that Madden 2005 is too much like last year's game (most of the changes as we know are fixes to previous years problems). There hasn't even been much info on NCAA, and the movies of that game aren't anything to get overly excited about.

I fully expect EA to use a scorched earth approach as the release draws closer - they'll try to fill Madden ads everywhere in hopes of drowning out anything ESPN can put together. I'm sure they'll try everything they can to keep Madden fans' eyes from "straying". I'm not an EA/Madden basher or anything; just would like to see either game given a chance based on it's merits.

[TDKing]

Re: Too bad this isn\'t a chess match

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Jistic said:
And remember, the gamer that doens't read message boards doesn't know about any of this. They've never seen a movie. They will get their first taste via a TV ad, or a store shelf.

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This statment is so true my brother and cousin who aren't big internet surfers
have no idea the game is $20.00 they're just waiting for the new madden to
come out. Never saw a screen shot, features list or movie.

[TDKing]

Re: Too bad this isn\'t a chess match

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Jistic said:
And remember, the gamer that doens't read message boards doesn't know about any of this. They've never seen a movie. They will get their first taste via a TV ad, or a store shelf.

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This statment is so true my brother and cousin who aren't big internet surfers
have no idea the game is $20.00 they're just waiting for the new madden to
come out. Never saw a screen shot, features list or movie.

[TDKing]

Re: Too bad this isn\'t a chess match

</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
Jistic said:
And remember, the gamer that doens't read message boards doesn't know about any of this. They've never seen a movie. They will get their first taste via a TV ad, or a store shelf.

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This statment is so true my brother and cousin who aren't big internet surfers
have no idea the game is $20.00 they're just waiting for the new madden to
come out. Never saw a screen shot, features list or movie.