option for next year

[zpq12]

Perhaps next year they could just give football gamers more of a toolbox game than ever before. Sure, still have the complete game so it can be played right out of the box, but maybe the developer could give us more tools to build and change the game the way we want. To change the game way that gamers in this forum have been trying to do for a while, to create a more accurate football sim, as long as I've been here anyway. Somethign taht goes beyond sliders. I think it would really draw the hardcore gamers in. Maybe its a pipe dream or a dumb idea but I think there are at least a few here who would jump at the option of a sandbox football game. It could also draw plenty of hardcore football gamers form that ESPN/Madden lovechild.

[Dark_Lord_Vader]

Re: option for next year

I for one have had it up to here with the sliders. I would like to see the success or failure of your team from year to year be based on the ratings and performance of your players, rather than the position of a slider. I would like to see SF2k6 get back to basics where there was just four difficulty settings and three game speeds. I would always start the game on Rookie Normal speed for the first season, just to get used to the way the game feels. Then it would be on to Pro Normal speed. If I won the Super Bowl on that level, then I would play the next season on Pro Fast. Then on to All-Pro Normal, All-Pro Fast, Legend Normal, and Legend Fast. By the time I was good enough to win the Super Bowl on Legend Fast, it was time for next year's title.

Ahhhh, the good old days…

[Dark_Lord_Vader]

Re: option for next year

I for one have had it up to here with the sliders. I would like to see the success or failure of your team from year to year be based on the ratings and performance of your players, rather than the position of a slider. I would like to see SF2k6 get back to basics where there was just four difficulty settings and three game speeds. I would always start the game on Rookie Normal speed for the first season, just to get used to the way the game feels. Then it would be on to Pro Normal speed. If I won the Super Bowl on that level, then I would play the next season on Pro Fast. Then on to All-Pro Normal, All-Pro Fast, Legend Normal, and Legend Fast. By the time I was good enough to win the Super Bowl on Legend Fast, it was time for next year's title.

Ahhhh, the good old days…

[baa7]

Re: option for next year

I for one have had it up to here with the sliders. I would like to see the success or failure of your team from year to year be based on the ratings and performance of your players, rather than the position of a slider.

DLV -- You post a lot of stuff that makes sense, but this isn't one of them. Set your sliders, then leave them alone and play your franchise. What's the difference, except that you get to determine your own difficulty level? Sliders @ 20 Pursuit is still 20 Pursuit for everybody in the league. Every player's performance according to their ratings will be equally affected.

[baa7]

Re: option for next year

I for one have had it up to here with the sliders. I would like to see the success or failure of your team from year to year be based on the ratings and performance of your players, rather than the position of a slider.

DLV -- You post a lot of stuff that makes sense, but this isn't one of them. Set your sliders, then leave them alone and play your franchise. What's the difference, except that you get to determine your own difficulty level? Sliders @ 20 Pursuit is still 20 Pursuit for everybody in the league. Every player's performance according to their ratings will be equally affected.

[Dark_Lord_Vader]

Re: option for next year

DLV -- You post a lot of stuff that makes sense, but this isn't one of them.

Oh well. Nobody is perfect.

Set your sliders, then leave them alone and play your franchise.

I do. The problem is, I have to keep tweaking it and tweaking it so that way the game is fair and realistic. Why not have the difficulty programmed like that right out of the box like it used to be? I hate that I have to manually go in there and tweak every little thing just to get a game that plays like real life.

I look at difficulty settings as milestones and goals to accomplish throughout the life of the title. I like having that ultimate goal in front of me that I can only get to by achieving Super Bowl Championships on lesser levels. With the slider thing, there is never that clear, untainted difficulty level. Before you say, "Then just don't touch the sliders and play straight All-Pro or straight Legend." this is not possible. The way NFL2k5 is built, you MUST adjust certain sliders to balance the game. Otherwise, I would be fumbling the ball ten times a game and I would NEVER be able to break out a 20+ TD run out in the open.

[Dark_Lord_Vader]

Re: option for next year

DLV -- You post a lot of stuff that makes sense, but this isn't one of them.

Oh well. Nobody is perfect.

Set your sliders, then leave them alone and play your franchise.

I do. The problem is, I have to keep tweaking it and tweaking it so that way the game is fair and realistic. Why not have the difficulty programmed like that right out of the box like it used to be? I hate that I have to manually go in there and tweak every little thing just to get a game that plays like real life.

I look at difficulty settings as milestones and goals to accomplish throughout the life of the title. I like having that ultimate goal in front of me that I can only get to by achieving Super Bowl Championships on lesser levels. With the slider thing, there is never that clear, untainted difficulty level. Before you say, "Then just don't touch the sliders and play straight All-Pro or straight Legend." this is not possible. The way NFL2k5 is built, you MUST adjust certain sliders to balance the game. Otherwise, I would be fumbling the ball ten times a game and I would NEVER be able to break out a 20+ TD run out in the open.

[aholbert32]

Re: option for next year

Oh well. Nobody is perfect.



I do. The problem is, I have to keep tweaking it and tweaking it so that way the game is fair and realistic. Why not have the difficulty programmed like that right out of the box like it used to be? I hate that I have to manually go in there and tweak every little thing just to get a game that plays like real life.

I look at difficulty settings as milestones and goals to accomplish throughout the life of the title. I like having that ultimate goal in front of me that I can only get to by achieving Super Bowl Championships on lesser levels. With the slider thing, there is never that clear, untainted difficulty level. Before you say, "Then just don't touch the sliders and play straight All-Pro or straight Legend." this is not possible. The way NFL2k5 is built, you MUST adjust certain sliders to balance the game. Otherwise, I would be fumbling the ball ten times a game and I would NEVER be able to break out a 20+ TD run out in the open.

Then dont change the sliders. People act as if the game forces you to use the sliders. If you want to play the games without adjusting the difficulties you can. If VC got rid of the sliders I would stop buying the game. It would be a horrible step back.

[aholbert32]

Re: option for next year

Oh well. Nobody is perfect.



I do. The problem is, I have to keep tweaking it and tweaking it so that way the game is fair and realistic. Why not have the difficulty programmed like that right out of the box like it used to be? I hate that I have to manually go in there and tweak every little thing just to get a game that plays like real life.

I look at difficulty settings as milestones and goals to accomplish throughout the life of the title. I like having that ultimate goal in front of me that I can only get to by achieving Super Bowl Championships on lesser levels. With the slider thing, there is never that clear, untainted difficulty level. Before you say, "Then just don't touch the sliders and play straight All-Pro or straight Legend." this is not possible. The way NFL2k5 is built, you MUST adjust certain sliders to balance the game. Otherwise, I would be fumbling the ball ten times a game and I would NEVER be able to break out a 20+ TD run out in the open.

Then dont change the sliders. People act as if the game forces you to use the sliders. If you want to play the games without adjusting the difficulties you can. If VC got rid of the sliders I would stop buying the game. It would be a horrible step back.

[wwharton]

Re: option for next year

I personally play many games without touching the sliders and I don't have the problems you mentioned. You have to learn to play. Too many run to sliders before they even realize that maybe their style is why the stats are off. If they got rid of the sliders completely then you'd still think you needed to make adjustments, you just then wouldn't be able to make them. Your argument makes absoultely no sense.

[wwharton]

Re: option for next year

I personally play many games without touching the sliders and I don't have the problems you mentioned. You have to learn to play. Too many run to sliders before they even realize that maybe their style is why the stats are off. If they got rid of the sliders completely then you'd still think you needed to make adjustments, you just then wouldn't be able to make them. Your argument makes absoultely no sense.

[jrivera34]

Re: option for next year

I for one have had it up to here with the sliders. I would like to see the success or failure of your team from year to year be based on the ratings and performance of your players, rather than the position of a slider.

I think the ratings do play a major part, and I think the sliders are something similar to reducing/increasing the ratings relavent to that slider.
Example: QB Accuracy slider (if there is such a slider) will reduce all QB's accuracy rating by 10% if you move it down one notch.
But not every agrees on what is sim and what isn't, so they give us the option to customize it to our liking.

[jrivera34]

Re: option for next year

I for one have had it up to here with the sliders. I would like to see the success or failure of your team from year to year be based on the ratings and performance of your players, rather than the position of a slider.

I think the ratings do play a major part, and I think the sliders are something similar to reducing/increasing the ratings relavent to that slider.
Example: QB Accuracy slider (if there is such a slider) will reduce all QB's accuracy rating by 10% if you move it down one notch.
But not every agrees on what is sim and what isn't, so they give us the option to customize it to our liking.

[baa7]

Re: option for next year

With the slider thing, there is never that clear, untainted difficulty level.

Wrong. It's called all CPU sliders @ 40; all human sliders @ 0.

Just do your thing using the default settings and don't touch the custom slider then. I don't like cones, but I don't think people should be forced to eat their ice cream out of a dish because of it :-)

A problem with the game this year is that some sliders simply don't work very well, or at all. So to get the game running half decently requires slider adjustments. Thank the Holy Mother (she's that third Dallas cheerleader on the left) there ARE sliders this year.

[baa7]

Re: option for next year

With the slider thing, there is never that clear, untainted difficulty level.

Wrong. It's called all CPU sliders @ 40; all human sliders @ 0.

Just do your thing using the default settings and don't touch the custom slider then. I don't like cones, but I don't think people should be forced to eat their ice cream out of a dish because of it :-)

A problem with the game this year is that some sliders simply don't work very well, or at all. So to get the game running half decently requires slider adjustments. Thank the Holy Mother (she's that third Dallas cheerleader on the left) there ARE sliders this year.