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  • coogrfan
    In Fritz We Trust
    • Jul 2002
    • 15645

    #46
    Re: Backbreaker Preview

    Originally posted by Bigdmo9999
    The June rumor was on the boards a while ago, but was later changed to TBA 08. I'm thinking June is out of the question, no matter when they release it though I think it'll sell good. I'm thinking after everyone suffers through another crappy Madden and returns it is when people should start buying it
    Weren't people around here saying pretty much the same thing about APF?

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    • allBthere
      All Star
      • Jan 2008
      • 5847

      #47
      Re: Backbreaker Preview

      Originally posted by coogrfan
      Weren't people around here saying pretty much the same thing about APF?
      It's true though for people who gave it a chance. I played it twice last week, and 4 times this week and got it the day before most people when it released.
      I'll not play for a month or so, but it draws me back in. If it had a franchise, and the ability to edit the teams and confrences imo it would have been very special.
      I thought about selling it for a while and decided to play it before i did and what do you know...i started 2 new seasons w/ 2 new slider settings and knew it wasn't going anwywhere but back in ye old library of games/dvd's.

      I'm really looking forward to backbreaker- it's new it's fresh, it's not TV style, but on the field, new physics, ...it's a fresh take on the sport within vids. If I end up loving it, I'm not even sure that means I'd stop playing apf completely in the long term, because i expect it to be THAT much a different experience so as not to make one or the other feel stale or incompetent.
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      • gamerk2
        Rookie
        • Sep 2007
        • 324

        #48
        Re: Backbreaker Preview

        If BB has a franchise, I'm sure it will sell more than 250,000 copies...(sorry 2k, but that WAS dumb of you...)

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        • Cebby
          Banned
          • Apr 2005
          • 22327

          #49
          Re: Backbreaker Preview

          Originally posted by gamerk2
          If BB has a franchise, I'm sure it will sell more than 250,000 copies...(sorry 2k, but that WAS dumb of you...)
          No franchise had little to do with it.

          The biggest reason for APF's lackluster support was the idiotic decision to release it the same day as NCAA. Anyone who's borderline is going to choose NCAA, and anyone who is buying NCAA probably isn't going to buy APF. Plus, any non-licensed sports game will struggle.

          As for this, I'm going with the "I need to see gameplay" crowd.

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          • JRod
            MVP
            • Jul 2002
            • 3266

            #50
            Re: Backbreaker Preview

            Originally posted by The Soldier
            No franchise had little to do with it.

            The biggest reason for APF's lackluster support was the idiotic decision to release it the same day as NCAA. Anyone who's borderline is going to choose NCAA, and anyone who is buying NCAA probably isn't going to buy APF. Plus, any non-licensed sports game will struggle.

            As for this, I'm going with the "I need to see gameplay" crowd.
            It wasn't just the release day that hurt the game. It was a series of errors.

            -Lack of Franchise, customizable season mode would have been fine.
            - Hamstrung editing options after promising more customization.
            - Few features.

            I think the selling date was inconsequential. They thought since people we going to the store for NCAA they might pick up APF. That was the thinking and it's something that's done to have games piggy-back on other hot selling games.

            The game just wasn't very good outside the gameplay, in the end that was it's undoing.

            If it was good, word of mouth would spread and the game would have sold in later weeks. But how can you recommend a game with so few features.

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            • muggins
              It is now the SW Era
              • May 2003
              • 5379

              #51
              Re: Backbreaker Preview

              I doubt it'll sell more than APF. A non-licensed game from a developer who has never developed a football game before? Add to that a new non-standard camera angle?

              We've seen what kind of problems games put out by EA and 2k have, and they've put out tons of them. I can't imagine at 59.99 this tech demo will sell much.
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              • yamabushi
                MVP
                • Feb 2006
                • 1265

                #52
                Re: Backbreaker Preview

                Id love to see another football option out there as much as the next guy, but........
                Im firmly convinced that this is nothing but a sales pitch, to EA and others, about the game engine.
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                • Bigdmo9999
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 5318

                  #53
                  Re: Backbreaker Preview

                  People need to get over themselves and pick up this game. The game has been developed for over 2 years now, you think they are going to miss out on key features? These guys are Madden fans, I would doubt that they would leave out their favorite feature from that game such as franchise and whatever other gimmicks EA puts into that game. Honestly I wish people would stop calling this a tech demo. If it was there would be no game and EA 09 games would have the all new Euphoria engine

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                  • Dudd
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 131

                    #54
                    Re: Backbreaker Preview

                    Wow, 2 years, I'm sure APF was banged out in six months and that's why it didn't have franchise mode. Madden's been in development forever, that's why it's perfect, right? Until I see gameplay videos that go beyond a bunch of idiots diving wildly in a minigame, it's a nice physics engine that I hope can produce a solid game, nothing more.

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                    • Bigdmo9999
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 5318

                      #55
                      Re: Backbreaker Preview

                      Originally posted by Dudd
                      Wow, 2 years, I'm sure APF was banged out in six months and that's why it didn't have franchise mode. Madden's been in development forever, that's why it's perfect, right? Until I see gameplay videos that go beyond a bunch of idiots diving wildly in a minigame, it's a nice physics engine that I hope can produce a solid game, nothing more.
                      haha, you called Madden perfect

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                      • myownsun
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 3238

                        #56
                        Re: Backbreaker Preview

                        The tackle animations look fantastic

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                        • coogrfan
                          In Fritz We Trust
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 15645

                          #57
                          Re: Backbreaker Preview

                          Originally posted by myownsun
                          The tackle animations look fantastic
                          Agreed, at least in the instances where defenders aren't missing diving tackles by 2-3 yards.

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                          • Candyman5
                            Come get some!
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 14380

                            #58
                            Re: Backbreaker Preview

                            Actually I remember reading somewhere that they would be able to make BB a Red vs Blue type deal, XBLA title with the Euphoria engine. In the article it said that the size would be small enough to make it a XBLA title. I will search for the article again. I will post it if I find it. But I also read another article saying that it will be fully customizable, so we will have to see. IMO I hope it is a full fledge game with a franchise, sliders, etc. I would buy it to give it a chance. I know that it will be a slim chance that it will be perfect in the first try, heck Madden has been out for how long know and the cant even make a decent pocket but we will just see how this years version is. Euphoria looks great and I will be purchasing this. That has been my two cent and all IMO.
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                            • Bigdmo9999
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 5318

                              #59
                              Re: Backbreaker Preview

                              Originally posted by Candyman5
                              Actually I remember reading somewhere that they would be able to make BB a Red vs Blue type deal, XBLA title with the Euphoria engine. In the article it said that the size would be small enough to make it a XBLA title. I will search for the article again. I will post it if I find it. But I also read another article saying that it will be fully customizable, so we will have to see. IMO I hope it is a full fledge game with a franchise, sliders, etc. I would buy it to give it a chance. I know that it will be a slim chance that it will be perfect in the first try, heck Madden has been out for how long know and the cant even make a decent pocket but we will just see how this years version is. Euphoria looks great and I will be purchasing this. That has been my two cent and all IMO.
                              The XBLA rumor was from early 07 and has been disproved. This is a full game.

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                              • allBthere
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 5847

                                #60
                                Re: Backbreaker Preview

                                Originally posted by Bigdmo9999
                                The XBLA rumor was from early 07 and has been disproved. This is a full game.
                                source? It has never been proved one way or another- the original article that i posted is the only one that mentions it at all. I think at this point it will be a full game, or it would have already been released; but nothing has technically been 'disproved'.

                                for the last time; it's not a 'tech demo' either...

                                the game needs to be good at least for it to be effective marketing their engine. It will also (rightfully so) amaze people that only 5-6 people made this ENTIRE game! ...that's really amazing,
                                imagine a game w/ 20+ teams, franchise, customization etc..made by 6 people!
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