ESPN NFL 2K5 vs Madden NFL 08 Part One

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  • wwharton
    *ll St*r
    • Aug 2002
    • 26949

    #31
    Originally posted by Radja
    at the time, madden 05 for the old gen had the better franchise. however, the fact that madden 08 for the next gen hasnt improved on the madden old gen, means you have to give a huge nod to 2k5. ea has had several years and more powerful hardware to work with.

    as far as the 2k5 franchise bugs, the draft had features that were awesome. the combine was fun and the weekly wrapup were awesome. the 1st round glitch made for house rules to be used but it was workable. the trade glitch was fixed if you moved the injury slider up to 26 or so.

    the presentation killed 08. the ability to play any replay in the game was beyond its time.

    however, after seeing some videos, this is the first year (09) in a looooooong time, i believe madden may have presentation worth seeing.
    But the comparison isn't between the 2k franchise and the madden franchise, it's between 2k5 and madden 08. It's unfair to compare anything besides the two games of focus. What I mean is, you can only say "Madden 08 doesn't do this well" or "2k5 does this better than Madden 08". It wouldn't be following the point of the article (isn't since this is what happened) to say "2k5 is better b/c Madden 08 hasn't improved on what previous versions of Madden did"... especially without mentioning the flaw that existed in the previous versions since not everyone may even know what it is.

    As for presentation in franchise or single player, that wasn't included in this comparison (I assume it will be in later ones) so that can't really play into this either just yet.

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    • Rocky
      All Star
      • Jul 2002
      • 6896

      #32
      Re: ESPN NFL 2K5 vs Madden NFL 08 Part One

      I also remember Madden 2005's franchise mode with the radio guy and position battles. The tightest thing though was the fact that if you had a big trade or an big injury, every team newspaper(kind of like the SI's in NCAA) would report on it. You also had owner mode, an in depth draft, and alot of coaching movements.

      In fact, I would say Madden 2005>>>NFL2K5>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Madden 2008 in terms of franchise/features.

      Competition was a beautiful thing.
      "Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."
      -Rocky Balboa

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      • StayPlation82
        Pro
        • Apr 2008
        • 706

        #33
        Flames!!!! big ol Flames!!! lol, ya'll are sad. let her go man. she was hot in high school when you didn't know any better. when you go back and look at the year book photo, you're like yeah she's hot but when you compare her to the new hotness walking the streets today, she don't cut it! i know ya'll had a one year relationship and you got to hit anytime you wanted, but now its kind of sad, now you're comparing every girl you meet to her, no one can top your baby or no one has yet. its pathetic. you start ya date off talking about her. ya try to give compliments but they go wrong like, "you look nice MaMa, but not as good as TwoTwo used to". get over it she ain't that hot and she for sure isn't that hot anymore, have you seen her lately? have you seen what she grew up to look like in '07? all i'm saying is....move on! let her go! unless ya married her, whoa! then that's a whole other situmuation(sit-u-mu-at-ion). and they thought Vanilla Ice was great too! please! get out of here! WTF!

        P.S.
        oh and everything about the NFL is exclusive from the sunday ticket all the way down to merchandise i.e. Reebok. if i'm them i start looking to make sure my image is sound. so i cut out the Blitz of the world, so i look for a company doing football the way i think it should be, you guessed it, EA. and it doesn't help that they happen to have money. i like there money and there product, i go with them.

        what i want all of the 2k fanatics to do: ya'll stop buying Madden until its better than ya 2k5, that'll show em! they'll miss all of 10,000 of you on the forums and shed a tear...
        Last edited by StayPlation82; 06-06-2008, 03:41 PM.
        "Accept victory and defeat in equanimity"

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        • wwharton
          *ll St*r
          • Aug 2002
          • 26949

          #34
          Originally posted by StayPlation82
          Flames!!!! big ol Flames!!! lol, ya'll are sad. let her go man. she was hot in high school when you didn't know any better. when you go back and look at the year book photo, you're like yeah she's hot but when you compare her to the new hotness walking the streets today, she don't cut it! i know ya'll had a one year relationship and you got to hit anytime you wanted, but now its kind of sad, now you're comparing every girl you meet to her, no one can top your baby or no one has yet. its pathetic. you start ya date off talking about her. ya try to give compliments but they go wrong like, "you look nice MaMa, but not as good as TwoTwo used to". get over it she ain't that hot and she for sure isn't that hot anymore, have you seen her lately? have you seen what she grew up to look like in '07? all i'm saying is....move on! let her go! unless ya married her, whoa! then that's a whole other situmuation(sit-u-mu-at-ion). and they thought Vanilla Ice was great too! please! get out of here! WTF!

          P.S.
          oh and everything about the NFL is exclusive from the sunday ticket all the way down to merchandise i.e. Reebok. if i'm them i start looking to make sure my image is sound. so i cut out the Blitz of the world, so i look for a company doing football the way i think it should be, you guessed it, EA. and it doesn't help that they happen to have money. i like there money and there product, i go with them.

          what i want all of the 2k fanatics to do: ya'll stop buying Madden until its better than ya 2k5, that'll show em! they'll miss all of 10,000 of you on the forums and shed a tear...
          Outside of the fact that the responses here are to an article created, you just wrote a long paragraph trying to make a bad comparison to some high school girlfriend? And you want to call other people sad? Really? You may not have a clear grasp on what being sad really means.

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          • stateprop
            Banned
            • Jun 2006
            • 1307

            #35
            have madden on the next- gen have great footwoork yet meaning WR/CB footwork. Until madden does that give me a call. The interacton between a WR and DB in 2k5 was crazy i mean look at the footwork just like the NFL. Even madden on the next-gen doesnt have that yet or NCAA. Yeah i luv madden well 05. Even madden 05 had a better presentation than the next gen maddens. Man i dying to play football APF failed to me and madden failed to me so far. Man im praying that this backbreak football game is good but i have a feeling its going to suck too

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            • adandar
              Rookie
              • May 2008
              • 13

              #36
              StayPlation82, the only part of your rant that actually made sense was the part about image control. The rest was rather lacking because if anything you may have created an argument against Madden.

              Madden was great back in the 90s when the alternatives had zero marketing, zero ability in compete on gameplay because of Madden's structural head start and long standing relationship with the NFL. Of course, they might have also taken another route and would try to compete by catering to a niche market by being extreme (See NFL Blitz). That being said, like an old girlfriend who was hot in her day, she got older and didn't put in the work to stay hot.

              Madden isn't that MILF that we all would aspire to know in your later years, but rather she grew fat and has facial hair from living in a bus 24/7 and hanging out at ACE Hardware. Get real bro... For you to think Madden has evolved to a higher state simply because it went next gen is naive and not extremely thoughtful.

              I've played all the next gen games and NFL 2K5 on the 360. 2K5's game play, not presentation, is still the closest to what I see on Sundays, and the occasional Monday night. The presentation is also more realistic to what we would expect as fans of the NFL (See ESPN license that is put to actual use).

              Fact of the matter is this... We crave a sim to be realistic. Madden's goofy features that it comes up with every year may be new and in some cases even novel, but few have brought it closer to realism (see poor salary cap management, game play controls such as using speed like an accellerator in a car, etc.), thus taking it more and more into the realm of the arcade. Thus, this is why the game has not truly improved over the last half decade.

              Think what you may, but the 2K5 fanatics in here, which I would include myself a member, just want a game that brings us that much closer to the real thing.

              If 2K5 was called another name or made by another company, I wouldn't care. If Backbreakers comes out and has the best game play to date, I would have to check that out.

              However, because EA has the exclusive license, there will always be that twinge of what-if. What if Backbreakers had the real NFL teams or a franchise mode?

              Therefore, until the NFL wakes up or someone acquires EA, which seems unlikely, we are stuck in this cycle and our only choice is ESPN NFL 2K5.
              Last edited by adandar; 06-07-2008, 09:08 AM.

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              • boydra
                Banned
                • Aug 2004
                • 152

                #37
                NFL2K5 by far was the best video football game ever made to date. When you discuss features EA claimed 85 new features will be in Madden 09. That's a perhaps a lie to get consumers hyped.

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