Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

[mestevo]

Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

Yup, he retweeted it. Just scroll down a few posts.

https://twitter.com/JoeMontana

[Branchurian]

Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

Has to mean something...it'd be odd for him to retweet that up on his official page. Then again, we shouldn't delve into any speculation until there is concrete evidence or Joe & 2K fess up. Thanks Mestevo

[howboutdat]

Re: Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

if its a tablet game only , good luck with that... is all i gotta say......

[Mr.Smif]

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If this is a mobile game only then all hype and hope is lost for me. As for me im out this thread til more substantial information comes out.

[cedwebb]

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I'm interested, if 2k put out a legends based game for next gen I would be all over it. Will keep checking I on this for sure. The article below is a reason for some optimism.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/13/joe-montana-teases-what-could-be-a-new-football-video-game/

Another good article on this inception of Joe Montana football and how it evolved into 2k.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Joe-Montana-Football-16-Might-Announced-Soon-65208.html

[FaceMask]

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I'm interested, if 2k put out a legends based game for next gen I would be all over it.

That's never going to happen. EA has too many legends tied up under contract leaving any company looking to do it with nothing but scraps if that, and on top of that the last legends attempt by 2K bombed and bombed big time. They won't go that avenue again.

The only legend you can count on being in this game is Joe Montana, and maybe some of his buddies like Jerry Rice which is also a longshot since I believe he's already under contract with EA for Madden.

We need 2K to go after new IP concepts and leave what didn't work in the past where it belongs.

[charter04]

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That's never going to happen. EA has too many legends tied up under contract leaving any company looking to do it with nothing but scraps if that, and on top of that the last legends attempt by 2K bombed and bombed big time. They won't go that avenue again.



The only legend you can count on being in this game is Joe Montana, and maybe some of his buddies like Jerry Rice which is also a longshot since I believe he's already under contract with EA for Madden.



We need 2K to go after new IP concepts and leave what didn't work in the past where it belongs.

How do you know any legends are under contract. EA probably paid for their rights for a game. Not a contract. Do you have info to back this up?


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[FaceMask]

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How do you know any legends are under contract. EA probably paid for their rights for a game. Not a contract. Do you have info to back this up?


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Your question is not reasonable, and your assertion is not realistic; this is not how this works.

For starters, a contract is what gives rights in these matters. So yes, of course they've signed contracts, that's a given like the sun coming up in the morning. Surely, you don't think EA showed up in trenchcoats and disguises to an undisclosed motel with a suitcase full of cash each time and made each individual deal on word and a gentlemen's handshake. And surely, you don't think that the legends who've been appearing in Madden nearly every year now since, oh, Madden 07/08, are just allowing that to happen without a contractual agreement in place. EA maintains a licensing department and keeps paid lawyers for these purposes exactly.

The only thing we can't know is what flexibility exists in those contracts since we can't see them. But considering how EA does business and has been doing business with football exclusivity specifically for the past 10 years, I think it would be a mistake to hold our collective breath that all of these legends are just open to be licensed to a competing product.

Look, I'm all for optimism, but there comes a point when reality has to be embraced. It baffles me that people would expect 2K to even consider going back to a model that completely flopped, was unprofitable for them, and tarnished their legacy a bit to the point that they don't even acknowledge the game (APF) ever existed. I don't understand that, I mean, sure I'd love it, but most gamers won't, so I'd rather they didn't do something doomed to repeat failure like that. If 2K is really behind it, I want them to have a real chance to succeed so they can keep coming back. If they go the APF route again, then the game will be dead on arrival.

[mestevo]

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Your question is not reasonable, and your assertion is not realistic; this is not how this works.

For starters, a contract is what gives rights in these matters. So yes, of course they've signed contracts, that's a given like the sun coming up in the morning. Surely, you don't think EA showed up in trenchcoats and disguises to an undisclosed motel with a suitcase full of cash each time and made each individual deal on word and a gentlemen's handshake. And surely, you don't think that the legends who've been appearing in Madden nearly every year now since, oh, Madden 07/08, are just allowing that to happen without a contractual agreement in place. EA maintains a licensing department and keeps paid lawyers for these purposes exactly.

The only thing we can't know is what flexibility exists in those contracts since we can't see them. But considering how EA does business and has been doing business with football exclusivity specifically for the past 10 years, I think it would be a mistake to hold our collective breath that all of these legends are just open to be licensed to a competing product.

Look, I'm all for optimism, but there comes a point when reality has to be embraced. It baffles me that people would expect 2K to even consider going back to a model that completely flopped, was unprofitable for them, and tarnished their legacy a bit to the point that they don't even acknowledge the game (APF) ever existed. I don't understand that, I mean, sure I'd love it, but most gamers won't, so I'd rather they didn't do something doomed to repeat failure like that. If 2K is really behind it, I want them to have a real chance to succeed so they can keep coming back. If they go the APF route again, then the game will be dead on arrival.

So you're telling me there's a chance!?

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There is only 1 solid lead, and that is a developer working on the game: https://twitter.com/DamonGrow

Who's entire work history on linkedin revolves around mobile/social games.

He just said that there will be dynamic weather in the game, and called into the 2 hour SimFBCritic radio show yesterday: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/simstan...standard-radio (haven't listened, if there was anything exciting to report it would have been already I'd expect)

Something is coming, they've done nothing but give us anything to be hopeful or get excited about so far though.

Edit: Figured there’d be some kind of recap (I can’t stand to listen to these guys for the most part), and skipped to around 1:45, and they absolutely hammer the guy about the potential of it being mobile/tablet only. He ends up just kinda opting out of the question because Montana is the one that will be releasing any information.

[charter04]

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Your question is not reasonable, and your assertion is not realistic; this is not how this works.

For starters, a contract is what gives rights in these matters. So yes, of course they've signed contracts, that's a given like the sun coming up in the morning. Surely, you don't think EA showed up in trenchcoats and disguises to an undisclosed motel with a suitcase full of cash each time and made each individual deal on word and a gentlemen's handshake. And surely, you don't think that the legends who've been appearing in Madden nearly every year now since, oh, Madden 07/08, are just allowing that to happen without a contractual agreement in place. EA maintains a licensing department and keeps paid lawyers for these purposes exactly.

The only thing we can't know is what flexibility exists in those contracts since we can't see them. But considering how EA does business and has been doing business with football exclusivity specifically for the past 10 years, I think it would be a mistake to hold our collective breath that all of these legends are just open to be licensed to a competing product.

Look, I'm all for optimism, but there comes a point when reality has to be embraced. It baffles me that people would expect 2K to even consider going back to a model that completely flopped, was unprofitable for them, and tarnished their legacy a bit to the point that they don't even acknowledge the game (APF) ever existed. I don't understand that, I mean, sure I'd love it, but most gamers won't, so I'd rather they didn't do something doomed to repeat failure like that. If 2K is really behind it, I want them to have a real chance to succeed so they can keep coming back. If they go the APF route again, then the game will be dead on arrival.

Maybe your entire comment wasn't for me. I'm going to assume that anyway. Because it was more than I even wanted to bother reading. Never said that I thought they should do a game like that again. I was just wondering how you knew they couldn't. Still didn't get a good answer.


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[mestevo]

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Maybe your entire comment wasn't for me. I'm going to assume that anyway. Because it was more than I even wanted to bother reading. Never said that I thought they should do a game like that again. I was just wondering how you knew they couldn't. Still didn't get a good answer.


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Not like he was replying to a 'good question' so not sure what 'good answer' you were expecting. Of course EA has legends 'under contract', look at MUT.

[charter04]

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Not like he was replying to a 'good question' so not sure what 'good answer' you were expecting. Of course EA has legends 'under contract', look at MUT.

Seems like the condescending type are out today. First I ask a simple honest question. I get a long answer with a lot of assumptions then I get you calling my question bad.

Last I checked if someone doesn't know something or would like someone to provide proof/clarification of a statement it isn't bad.

Next time I'll make sure and run my question by you guys just to make sure they are good enough.

[Gridiron]

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Not like he was replying to a 'good question' so not sure what 'good answer' you were expecting. Of course EA has legends 'under contract', look at MUT.

Exactly, man. I thinks dudes sometimes forget this is a business, big business at that.

[charter04]

Joe Montana Football 16 Looks to be a Mobile Game, Utilizing Unreal Engine 4

The way I understand it, EA sports must have a licensing agreement with the NFL players association in order to use their likenesses. Obviously they have that. This is separate from an agreement with the NFL. Even then there have been some players who were able to not have their likeness used in the past. These agreements are not always exclusive however. This also doesn't include former players. Those have to be made player by player. Sure EA has some licensing deals with some legends. How many and how long though? Also how do we know the agreement is exclusive?

We know EA sports has an exclusive agreement with the NFL and possibly the players association but, what about former players.

So that is the question. Still don't have an answer. I hope and pray my question passes the good question test.

[charter04]

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Exactly, man. I thinks dudes sometimes forget this is a business, big business at that.

How did my question make it seem I forgot it was a business? Obviously I know they have a licensing agreement with the legends that are in the current game but, how exclusive is it? Also is is just for this year or multiple years.

I still haven't seen anything that prove 2k couldn't have the same legends in a new hypothetical game. That was the intent of my question.

I think it would be a bad idea to make a game like that though.