I have a feeling that it would be some growing pains, It's hard to come out as an independent and have everything we want in a football game. But for that budget, that pretty cool IMO. I hope we can give this game enough support so that hopefully it will be profitable so he will make more additions every year.
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NFL:OAKLAND RAIDERS
NHL:PHILADELPHIA FLYERS
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Re: Axis Football 2015 Review (PC)
Still, the scaling is completely different, two different universes in fact, that's the point that can't be escaped. You're mentioning AAA games and mid-to-high level indies with far bigger teams and far bigger budgets than Axis is working with.
Consumers don't care because consumers generally don't know. Knowing wouldn't make them like the game any more or less, but I'm certain if they know Madden is made by a massive team of people, and Axis was made by essentially one guy, they would understand how unequal the comparison is.
I get where you're coming from, it's just not coming from a fair place.Comment
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Re: Axis Football 2015 Review (PC)
What's a reasonable alternative to the absolute scale, though? I'm not the reviewer, but to me the idea of applying some sort of bonus to the game's score or pulling punches in the text of the reviewer's opinion based on the game's budget, team size, or sympathy for the developer on a personal level strikes me as disingenuous.
A reviewer's purpose is to assess the quality of a video game amidst other available options and make a recommendation to the consumer. No video game exists in a vacuum. If the reviewer feels this game doesn't begin to compare to other options, he's perfectly justified in saying as much. If the reviewer isn't honest with how he feels about the game or withholds that opinion, he's not serving the readers well at-best and deliberately misleading them at-worst.
"Fair" simply is not an object in this scenario; other football video games are already out there in the wild and not going away. The onus is on the game developer to produce a quality game, not on media to give out a participation award to anyone who feels like making a game.Comment
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Re: Axis Football 2015 Review (PC)
I hope nothing but the best for this game. No buy till bugs are gone and franchise is in the game.Comment
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Re: Axis Football 2015 Review (PC)
A moddable football game where I have complete control is something I've wanted for a long time. The guy that made the game has a lot of good ideas...but the $20 price tag for a game lacking so much.
I'm not trying to bash the creator, but with the game lacking in even basic football elements like breaking tackles, basic ol/dl interactions(from the clips I've seen, the qb didn't even need to scramble because it looks like the dl isn't capable of generating pressure)how can he justify the price? I think more people would support the game and hopefully help it grow if it were $5 bucks.
I think that is fair with it's dated graphics, lacking features, and basic gameplay elements.Comment
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Re: Axis Football 2015 Review (PC)
I feel like it's disingenuous to compare a game that is being priced at $20 that is essentially in early access to a $60 AAA title, even if you're comparing it to a game from 2008.
I'm not saying this game deserves a 10, because it has it's fair share of problems... But the developers listen to what we want and they implement change as quickly as they can. These developers are worth supporting and a fairer review on a site filled with the prime audience could go a long way.
People who purchase this game will get the updated 2016 version for free which will have a franchise mode, uniform modding, logo modding, roster modding, and improved animations. This is imo what should have been highlighted in the review. Instead OS seemed to **** on the game without pointing out any of the potential it has.
This is the first football game released since Madden 08 and yes it has issues, but the review isn't going to help those issues get fixed. It could lead to this game becoming abandonware and to leave the PC userbase without a football game altogether.
There's a way to promote something and there's a way to review something. I don't think this game is in a reviewable shape at the moment, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
Furthermore I think rating games (sports or otherwise) on a number scale is ridiculous.Comment
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Re: Axis Football 2015 Review (PC)
That's quite the shotgun response, you covered everything from the indie vs AAA argument, the game being incomplete (which is the very reason many games tank in reviews) to 'it's not even reviewable' and sports games in general vs numerical reviews.
I think many understand a lot of that, and read this review in context. I don't get the flailing to defend it, if the review leads to it being abandonware (which it wont) then it's probably much closer to that than anyone realizes from the get go then.
If it's so great otherwise it will have the much more visible Steam reviews (which are generally positive, but have their +'s and -'s) to rely on.Comment
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Re: Axis Football 2015 Review (PC)
That's not the point I'm making here.
Let me be clear; a reviewer can trash a bad game from now until infinity and that's perfectly fine, and I'm not asking them to pull punches. That's not what this is about.
And while I agree that games don't exist in a vacuum, they do however exist on their own levels of development. So having said that, the problem here is, when you take a game made on a $500 budget by essentially one guy and even so much as inject into it a comparison to a game made on a multi-million dollar budget by a massive team of people, you've totally lost perspective. I'm not saying the game is any good, it may be crap, I haven't played it yet, but no matter what it is, no comparison to Madden as a way to point out its issues or shortcomings is valid given the enormously different scales. It's the same vein of concept as to why people tuned out of the Joe Montana stuff the minute they found out it was mobile. All the Versus Madden hype had to go out the window because those people understood scale and realized that even considering a mobile game a viable contender to Madden was unreasonable given the huge scale difference.Comment
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Re: Axis Football 2015 Review (PC)
I don't post often, and when I do I have something to say. I covered as much as I did because it really bothers me that he gave the game a 2.5 out of 10. He might as well have said don't bother ever buying this or any future products with this brand.
This is an important site for sports games. That should be obvious. Right now there are nearly 2000 people online, and I'm sure many more are lurking. The Axis Developers prime and probably only audience are likely to visit this site.
This is a site that with this review has the power to kill a game. Who knows what this game will look like by 2016, but you know who probably won't tune in again? Nearly anyone who had a mild interest and saw a 2.5 out of 10 and decided that this just a **** game.
The fans of this game obviously see more potential than a 2.5 out of 10 because last I checked the game was like 80% positive. That should have been reflected in the review.
The only thing this review has promoted is the idea that axis football is a joke.
If it looks like I'm flailing then I'm ok with that. Hopefully some mildly interested football fan sees my post and realizes that maybe this game is worth supporting.Comment
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Re: Axis Football 2015 Review (PC)
Reviews are not written for just fans of the game, they are written for a wide audience. If OS was the only bad review of the game, I would see where you have a point, but after seeing two other website reviews, OS review is right in line with the other two.
Also, OS wasn't the only review site to compare with Madden. So, the other review sites must be wrong in their line of thinking, too.Comment
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I agree the reviews should be objective, which means the comparison has to be Madden (since that is currently the only other football videogame). That said, I also agree the tone of a review can be positive or negative and can either build or diminish the potential audience and hope for the game. Granted that's kind of a fine point. To me, this game most reminds me of Maximum Football, another PC football videogame from a few years ago that gave me high hopes, but ultimately came up far short.Comment
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Re: Axis Football 2015 Review (PC)
Its part of a bundle for only 2.99 is you haven't gotten it yet.
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Hey folks!
Danny Jugan here. I first want to thank everyone for this support and feedback on Axis Football over the past few months. We were able to improve several aspects of the game and have huge plans to improve several areas that need some love! To that end, we've released a Kickstarter to help raise some funds for motion capture animations and graphical improvements. If you're at all interested in football gaming on the PC or just for better football options in-general, I'd like to encourage you to consider support the Kickstarter! If not, at least check it out and let a friend or two know!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/169597452/axis-football-2016
As always, I am truly thankful for your support. Feel free to reach out to me anytime with questions or comments!
Happy gaming,
Danny Jugan
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