Your very own camera argument thread.

[Rocky]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

Madden and 2k got drilled for it, as they should have. Games should be judged on their merits. As a consumer I don't care what their budget? When I go to a movie do I give a movie a break because it didn't cost much to make?

Madden and 2k got criticized for lack of options, BB shouldn't be exempt because of their budget.. I am a consumer all I care is about the bottom line, and the bottom line is this game is missing things that have been in other sports games for years. You simply can not excuse it all away, well you can, but not objectively.

You're not paying full price. You're not paying full price despite it giving you one of the most revolutionary technical advances to come along in years...on top of full customization options and season modes.

Again Madden 10..MLB2K8...I don't even think NBA2K or The Show had those type of camera options when they were ported over.

This is a first year game and you expect it to have the camera options of Madden 10 (and not every other Madden previously but the 5th edition on NG consoles). Whatever, that's your viewpoint...but to accuse anyone who understands why that's not feasible and defends this one cam of having an agenda is not only ridiculous but hypocritical for someone who had hundreds of posts complaining about the camera. Nobody is defends not having options. Few would oppose having a traditional cam in the game...but those who understand the limitations of putting in multiple cameras and support the decision to put in the one they did are fanboys? Really?

[-DaVe-]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

Why do you care what I am doing with my time? If you don't want to read opposing opinions this probably isn't the place for you. If my opinions upset you that much, do us all a favor and put me on ignore.

I do love the tactic though of deflecting away from the criticism of the game and make it seem like someone who brings up a shortcoming is the problem.

Madden is completely irrelevant to this conversation.

This is a camera argument thread is it not? I am not sure what you thought was going to be in here when you decided to read it. Seems pretty self explanatory to me, does it not?

Like I said you're arguing over something that will not change until maybe the next installment of the game..
I think the DEV team is well aware of the opinions of the camera angles, you ranting and raving for them to change it now is pretty tedious ...

[bkrich83]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread..

Like I said you're arguing over something that will not change until maybe the next installment of the game..
I think the DEV team is well aware of the opinions of the camera angles, you ranting and raving for them to change it now is pretty tedious ...

If it's tedious why would you come in to a thread that's specifically about camera options? I thought the thread title was pretty clear. Did you have a hard time understanding it?

I am not sure where I ranted or raved, but if my posts are that tedious why not skip them or put me on ignore? It's like burning your hand on the stove then complaining because you keep doing it. Move on if you don't like my posts or this subject.

[jira2004]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

Why do you care what I am doing with my time? If you don't want to read opposing opinions this probably isn't the place for you. If my opinions upset you that much, do us all a favor and put me on ignore.

I do love the tactic though of deflecting away from the criticism of the game and make it seem like someone who brings up a shortcoming is the problem.

Madden is completely irrelevant to this conversation.

This is a camera argument thread is it not? I am not sure what you thought was going to be in here when you decided to read it. Seems pretty self explanatory to me, does it not?

I totally agree with you....Im not bashing BB but it is obvious that the camera issue is a problem for alot of people including myself..

If they dont give us an option or patch it then plain and simple they don't get me LOOT...

Plain and simple.....

[bkrich83]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

I totally agree with you....Im not bashing BB but it is obvious that the camera issue is a problem for alot of people including myself..

If they dont give us an option or patch it then plain and simple they don't get me LOOT...

Plain and simple.....

I think for me it's disappointing because ultimately the camera takes away from what could really be a spectacular gaming experience.

[-DaVe-]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread..

If it's tedious why would you come in to a thread that's specifically about camera options? I thought the thread title was pretty clear. Did you have a hard time understanding it?

I am not sure where I ranted or raved, but if my posts are that tedious why not skip them or put me on ignore? It's like burning your hand on the stove then complaining because you keep doing it. Move on if you don't like my posts or this subject.

Your posts have been sticking out like a sore thumb. Which has forced me to post. The guys complaining about the camera angles simply want to go through all their reads while whistling in the wind. They want to sit in the pocket all day long and not pay for it. Not only that but also be able to dodge and weave a player coming from the blindside...

[bkrich83]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread..

Your posts have been sticking out like a sore thumb. Which has forced me to post. The guys complaining about the camera angles simply want to go through all their reads while whistling in the wind. They want to sit in the pocket all day long and not pay for it. Not only that but also be able to dodge and weave a player coming from the blindside...

My posts forced you to post? I didn't realize I had that kind of power over you. As far as why people complain about the camera, I disagree, I know for me that's not the case, but you are entitled to your opinion.

Like I said, if my opinion has that deep of an affect on you, that it "forces" you to post, you might want to put me on ignore.

BTW, at what point is asking for camera options considered so unreasonable you are "forced" to reply?

[swaldo]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

Well at least we're not forced to play QB. The camera angles for offensive linemen aren't all that bad

[bkrich83]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

Well at least we're not forced to play QB. The camera angles for offensive linemen aren't all that bad

LOL.

Playing safety or LB on the defensive side of the ball is very fun I think on that end the camera angle is fine.

[Buckeyes_Doc]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

The depth perception is good as is. MORE depth perception will probably make the passing game too easy. Then what will people say? " o da passin iz 2 eazy man"
Can't have it both ways

Ok so Dave from OS thinks the camera and depth perception is good therefore it must be good. You are right I think the camera is truly an art, I will comply with you because your opinion is the only one that matters here.

[Danimal]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

Cut out the bickering, if you don't want to hear someones posts or think they are tedious ignore them, don't aruge with them. Same goes for the other side, don't let someone bait you into getting an infraction or worse just report them.

Last warning, I think we have been fair in letting people have some rope but it appears all they can do is hang themselves. The new forum policy for trolling is in effect, keep that in mind before your next post.

[nbluedevils]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

Just throwin' it out there:

http://kotaku.com/5549386/are-you-re...erent-football

'God view' camera doesn't look too promising...

[mgoblue678]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

Honestly, as I have played the demo over and over, the camera is now fine to me even on outside runs and when passing. Not saying it's perfect, but it certainly won't stop me from enjoying the game l and isn't really hindering me in those areas anymore.

On defense as well as punt and kick returns, the camera really adds to the game IMO. I love playing defense and returning the ball from that camera angle. I don't think the defensive camera angle should be altered at all.

I didn't get to see the live stream that somebody posted of the full game here, but people are saying the camera when passing is a little more zoomed out than the demo. Don't know if that is true but that would be the one modification I could see for the passing game.

[LaW97]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

I was looking around over on the BB forums and was wondering has anyone asked the Devs about this being patched in as an option and if so did they give a response? By them not responding I'm guessing there not going to offer any options for the camera angle and don't want to put out that info before the release so it doesn't hurt sales....Just my guess.

I have been wondering the same thing.
why cant they jus patch it in.
there seems to be a patch for everything these days, especially if a company see's that the gamers are really crying over it like Fight Night and the buttons patch.

im gonna wait a few weeks before i purchase jus to see if there will be patch news.

if not... i dont think i can buy this game.
i'll most likely spend more time editing then playing anyway

[duke776]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

Played the demo tonight, and actually liked the camera(although, I'm all for options and wished they had included more). However, I had a big problem. I get headaches from all the movement of the camera(it's either the movement of the camera or the movement on the field), so unfortunately I can't play with it. I wasn't suprised about getting the headaches though, because when I had watched gameplay I experienced the same headaches. It's really a shame too, because I actually enjoyed the game, just can't handle all the movement.