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  • Afrikan
    Banned
    • Apr 2004
    • 1462

    #271
    Re: Early Copy...

    Originally posted by jira2004
    Just my thoughts............Looking at that stream made me cancel my preorder...How in the world they spent three years on a game that could have been made in 1 year.....


    This game looks boring and it lacks to me a true sim football game......The camera is lousy and the int's are insane......

    Geez my hopes were real high!!
    k, nice having you here.....bye now.

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    • mgoblue678
      MVP
      • Jul 2008
      • 3371

      #272
      Re: Early Copy...

      I really do appreciate what these guys have tried to do in their first attempt, but the CPU offense and play calling is just not acceptable even for a first attempt.

      Don't get me wrong, in any game I don't expect the CPU to be perfect in those areas and expect the occasionally head scratching thing to happen on the CPU's part. The frequency I see it happening though, is way too high to say the least.
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      • ThackerSS
        Banned
        • May 2010
        • 45

        #273
        Re: Early Copy...

        Originally posted by jira2004
        Just my thoughts............Looking at that stream made me cancel my preorder...How in the world they spent three years on a game that could have been made in 1 year.....


        This game looks boring and it lacks to me a true sim football game......The camera is lousy and the int's are insane......

        Geez my hopes were real high!!
        Awesome story bro.

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        • eaglesfan17
          Rookie
          • Aug 2004
          • 186

          #274
          Re: Early Copy...

          I don't agree with it, but I do understand the decision to not allow editable ratings. It's a system similar to APF2k8. I mean, since you can take your custom teams online, it would get quite annoying playing against people who just max out every player's ratings on their team.

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          • fldash
            Banned
            • Dec 2008
            • 448

            #275
            Re: Early Copy...

            I don't think I'm giving up, but I'm not near as excited as I was... What happens between the snaps is some of the best sports gameplay I've ever witnessed. It's really only the AI that ****s that up.

            I admit not being able to edit players is also a huge let down, it will keep the online teams rather sane and if they really did extensive testing on plays (which is why there are only so many), then there shouldn't be many money plays making online a good value.

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            • Afrikan
              Banned
              • Apr 2004
              • 1462

              #276
              Re: Early Copy...

              Originally posted by mgoblue678
              I really do appreciate what these guys have tried to do in their first attempt, but the CPU offense and play calling is just not acceptable even for a first attempt.

              Don't get me wrong, in any game I don't expect the CPU to be perfect in those areas and expect the occasionally head scratching thing to happen on the CPU's part. The frequency I see it happening though, is way too high to say the least.
              I agree with the bolded part... I understand if in other parts of 4 qtrs if they told the CPU to try to mix it up on 3rd and longs...and not to pass all the time....but for the final 2 minutes of the game and if the CPU has a far way to go.... they have to be forced by the developers to Pass the ball no matter what.

              Maybe this could get patched...maybe it has to do with teams or individual QBs....but so far from what we have seen the CPU is not making acceptable calls in key situations...

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              • BigZell20
                Banned
                • Mar 2010
                • 148

                #277
                Re: Early Copy...

                Originally posted by Afrikan
                I agree with the bolded part... I understand if in other parts of 4 qtrs if they told the CPU to try to mix it up on 3rd and longs...and not to pass all the time....but for the final 2 minutes of the game and if the CPU has a far way to go.... they have to be forced by the developers to Pass the ball no matter what.

                Maybe this could get patched...maybe it has to do with teams or individual QBs....but so far from what we have seen the CPU is not making acceptable calls in key situations...
                Totally agree, I can live with some AI issues...but this really dampens my expectations of the AI.

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                • hatisback
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 1013

                  #278
                  Re: Early Copy...

                  anyone that watched the streams, did the user try on hard with form maxed out for the CPU to get realistic gameplay?

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                  • Afrikan
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 1462

                    #279
                    Re: Early Copy...

                    Originally posted by hatisback
                    anyone that watched the streams, did the user try on hard with form maxed out for the CPU to get realistic gameplay?
                    I don't think he saw my post...but this is what I asked earlier.... max out the CPU's team Form...but make the Human's team form low or normal... just to see what happens.

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                    • hatisback
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 1013

                      #280
                      Re: Early Copy...

                      Originally posted by Afrikan
                      I don't think he saw my post...but this is what I asked earlier.... max out the CPU's team Form...but make the Human's team form low or normal
                      dang, to think that might save the game.

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                      • CreatineKasey
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 4897

                        #281
                        Re: Early Copy...

                        I was skeptical for a reason. I didn't want to come off as a buzzkill, but I had legitimate concerns and many of them seem to be coming to fruition.

                        Rarely do situations seem to turn out well when you don't get a response about something by developers. I take no responses as "probably no". If they had it, they'd be glad to say yes, it helps their sales.
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                        • Afrikan
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 1462

                          #282
                          Re: Early Copy...

                          Originally posted by hatisback
                          dang, to think that might save the game.
                          I don't think the game needs to be saved, just because of this .

                          but what seems to be a problem so far with the playcalling and decision making should be able to be addressed with a patch.

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                          • gridironjunky
                            Rookie
                            • May 2010
                            • 42

                            #283
                            Re: Early Copy...



                            The devs seem responsive to there support and feedback forum. I would encourage everybody to use it to try and get the issues with the AI patched. Too many people are on there asking for useless things like refs on the field, kickers standing too far back to use the already well known glitch block, traditional camera views, rain puddles on the field etc...etc... I think if enough of us can point out the real issues we've seen they may address the AI first as opposed to patching in refs on the field.

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                            • warriorbear
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 52

                              #284
                              Re: Early Copy...

                              Just a bit of information about form - from the game booklet "Form - Sets the current form of your team (from very good to very poor.) Adjust this setting to get to know your custom team through its potential ups and downs; useful practice for season mode and road to backbreaker."

                              Through a few more games I haven't been able to set the form for individual teams... and I believe custom form may give a random form setting for each team... checking as we speak.

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                              • 21SEC
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 190

                                #285
                                Re: Early Copy...

                                Originally posted by warriorbear
                                Just a bit of information about form - from the game booklet "Form - Sets the current form of your team (from very good to very poor.) Adjust this setting to get to know your custom team through its potential ups and downs; useful practice for season mode and road to backbreaker."

                                Through a few more games I haven't been able to set the form for individual teams... and I believe custom form may give a random form setting for each team... checking as we speak.
                                Can you check to see if you can create a player, and if so can you edit his ratings that way?

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