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  • roadman
    *ll St*r
    • Aug 2003
    • 26339

    #31
    Re: Backbreaker Review

    Originally posted by raiders81tim
    I can see this logic if reviews are something you believe strongly in. I however don't. I base how good or bad a game is purely on how it plays.
    Then a good or bad review shouldn't upset you.

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    • Afrikan
      Banned
      • Apr 2004
      • 1462

      #32
      Re: Backbreaker Review

      Originally posted by RaiderKtulu
      So, is it possible to ban a reviewer for trolling?
      haha never thought of it like that....

      imagine if someone posted in that other football game forum that Blitz is more realistic...

      LMAO just thinking about what would happen to that poor soul...lol

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      • texastarheel
        Rookie
        • Nov 2004
        • 14

        #33
        I own this game and it is disappointing. I dont usually post reviews but the writer was right on point. It has some very nice features that I wished Madden had. But overall it does not have the excitement value for me. Again this is only a personal opinion. I have talked to several people who enjoy the game. I think because I have been a Madden and NCAA fan for so long that anything new would have to be super super outstanding, and for me this game is not. A 5 is about right for this game.

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        • TheShizNo1
          Asst 2 the Comm Manager
          • Mar 2007
          • 26341

          #34
          Re: Backbreaker Review

          This reminds me of 2k football. People hated and thought it was hard b/c of the steep learning curve from Madden.
          Originally posted by Mo
          Just once I'd like to be the one they call a jerk off.
          Originally posted by Mo
          You underestimate my laziness
          Originally posted by Mo
          **** ya


          ...

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          • NC State-31 UNC-27
            MVP
            • Nov 2007
            • 1525

            #35
            Re: Backbreaker Review

            so the review says absolutely nothing about the groundbreaking physics work and realism in tackles and player interaction?

            My problem is that Madden has had HUGE gameplay problems last few years with turnovers, OL play, stupid 12 man pile ups that turn into 80 yard runs at least once per game, pointless and broken franchise, etc etc yet gets 8s and 9s from OS. And THAT game is supposedly all realism.

            Backbreaker doesn't claim to be that...yet its thrown under the bus like this?

            Poorly reviewed IMO, even if the final score is accurate.

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            • Afrikan
              Banned
              • Apr 2004
              • 1462

              #36
              Re: Backbreaker Review

              Originally posted by texastarheel
              I own this game and it is disappointing. I dont usually post reviews but the writer was right on point. It has some very nice features that I wished Madden had. But overall it does not have the excitement value for me. Again this is only a personal opinion. I have talked to several people who enjoy the game. I think because I have been a Madden and NCAA fan for so long that anything new would have to be super super outstanding, and for me this game is not. A 5 is about right for this game.
              see I respect your opinion....and I can understand where you are coming from since you explained why you feel that way.

              tell me though, do you think Blitz is more realistic than BackBreaker?...like the Professional Reviewer who represents Operation Sports states.

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              • raiders81tim
                Pro
                • Jul 2009
                • 585

                #37
                Re: Backbreaker Review

                Originally posted by roadman
                Then a good or bad review shouldn't upset you.
                Again its not that the score was bad, I give the game a 5 myself, it's the reasons for it being bad. Never once did he mention the lack of plays, hot routes, a real replay camera ect...

                He said pretty much I suck so it's bad boo hoo.

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                • RaiderKtulu
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1377

                  #38
                  Re: Backbreaker Review

                  Originally posted by Afrikan
                  who are "some people"?....potential buyers or most on this site who seem to be enjoying the game?

                  as far as consistent bad scores.....again, the #s game mean nothing, if the content in the Review is rubbish.



                  apparently I must be a GAMING GOD....LOL...

                  any other GAMING GODS out there that do a better job of completing passes than some of these low #s the reviewer and Mestevo giving off?
                  My first game in my custom season (pro mode, hard, all 8 custom teams in the 50-60 OVR range) I got my *** handed to me 55-27, and I threw 7 picks... and still managed to complete 55% of my passes and throw 2TDs. I think the defenders catch a little bit too well, but I'm not having anywhere near the issue that our wonderful reviewer claims.

                  As for road to backbreaker mode - you're an expansion team, you're supposed to suck. The idea is to build a team up and eventually work your way up the tiers to win the championship - not to go all blitz the league style and win 30 games in a row.

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                  • Afrikan
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 1462

                    #39
                    Re: Backbreaker Review

                    Originally posted by RaiderKtulu
                    My first game in my custom season (pro mode, hard, all 8 custom teams in the 50-60 OVR range) I got my *** handed to me 55-27, and I threw 7 picks... and still managed to complete 55% of my passes and throw 2TDs. I think the defenders catch a little bit too well, but I'm not having anywhere near the issue that our wonderful reviewer claims.

                    As for road to backbreaker mode - you're an expansion team, you're supposed to suck. The idea is to build a team up and eventually work your way up the tiers to win the championship - not to go all blitz the league style and win 30 games in a row.
                    EXACTLY!

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                    • texastarheel
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 14

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Afrikan
                      see I respect your opinion....and I can understand where you are coming from since you explained why you feel that way.

                      tell me though, do you think Blitz is more realistic than BackBreaker?...like the Professional Reviewer who represents Operation Sports states.
                      I think he went a little far with that. Blitz was not real football to me. Backbreaker makes a very good attempt at making a good football game. Even if you are a die hard 2k person (which I also loved) I think you will be disappointed in this game. If the game play and the quirky camera angles are fixed, Madden and NCAA will have a serious problem on their hands.

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                      • Dogslax41
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1901

                        #41
                        Re: Backbreaker Review

                        Originally posted by Exonerated
                        I completed 1/21 passes in my first game. There's nothing much misleading about the review. It unnecessarily scathing but that his opinion.
                        You may have gone 1/21 and if you did then that is your issue not the game's, but even if you did then that is not 12 turnovers on 12 successive possessions. That is exactly what is misleading.

                        My last game I went 20/22 for 285 yards with 0 interceptions on pro/hard with random form. In addition I ran for about 65 yards. Do these somewhat realistic stats make the game great...no. The game is lacking in quite a few areas but I expect an honest review not a misleading one. A game where I can go 20/22 with no pics (the cpu threw 4 that game by the way, which is the portion of the game that I do have an issue with) can not be reviewed as siimply, the first 12 possessions were turnovers so this game is awful and worse than Blitz.
                        Last edited by Dogslax41; 06-09-2010, 02:11 PM.

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                        • mbmonk
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 68

                          #42
                          Re: Backbreaker Review

                          I don't have a problem with the score, but the fact that the reviewer counts the community as a negative towards the game seems a bit unfair.

                          Beware of playing Backbreaker online because it has already turned into a big cheese fest. While the servers are very impressive and stable, the opponents really ruin the online experience. "Cheesing" in Backbreaker is very easy to do because of the game speed. After you snap the ball online, you will be sacked early and often. However, turnovers are not as rampant online because you are playing a real person rather than the unintelligent CPU-controlled teams.
                          Are we reviewing the game with this article or the community? I don't know if it's fair to blame the game for what the community does. Madden community can blow balls as well. They glitch and exploit anytime they get a chance. I played the dog snot of of Madden 10 online, so I know of what I speak. "Cheesers" are in every community for an online game.

                          Also what people who join sim leagues? They don't have to worry about cheesers. So that negative doesn't even apply to them. Again to knock the game for what the community does is unfair. And if you are going to bring the community into the review then why not bring up the good things the community is doing to improve the game?

                          Online: Great servers, but bad opponents.
                          Doing it again.

                          I think you start walking a slippery slope when you bring the community aspect into a game review.

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                          • mestevo
                            Gooney Goo Goo
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 19556

                            #43
                            Re: Backbreaker Review

                            Originally posted by mbmonk
                            I don't have a problem with the score, but the fact that the reviewer counts the community as a negative towards the game seems a bit unfair.



                            Are we reviewing the game with this article or the community? I don't know if it's fair to blame the game for what the community does. Madden community can blow balls as well. They glitch and exploit anytime they get a chance. I played the dog snot of of Madden 10 online, so I know of what I speak. "Cheesers" are in every community for an online game.

                            Also what people who join sim leagues? They don't have to worry about cheesers. So that negative doesn't even apply to them. Again to knock the game for what the community does is unfair. And if you are going to bring the community into the review then why not bring up the good things the community is doing to improve the game?



                            Doing it again.

                            I think you start walking a slippery slope when you bring the community aspect into a game review.
                            The typical person is going to go online and join a quick match or whatever, it's a fair concern. If you are any of those other use cases then you are likely a minority and you know that it doesn't apply to you. I don't see the big deal, it's a fair point. Some people even posted in the impressions thread that they are glad that this game has less cheese, the review indicates otherwise, and as you said, cheese exists in all games. If that's most/all the reviewer saw online, then it's clearly fair game to include.

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                            • swaldo
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 1268

                              #44
                              Absolutely no mention of the greatest advance in football gaming in a long, long time (tackling/physics)?! Oh wait, at the very bottom of the review in the summary it does state "+ Tackling Animations." Wow, that's all the love you can give to this groundbreaking technology? And how every play is unique, calculated on the fly with absolutely no cheap AI cheating involved?

                              Also, to slam and penalize the game because online players use cheese is not right. My online experiences have been great, with no lag or cheesers. What game doesn't have money plays which users can exploit? If you're frustrated with the AI shortcomings then online is a great alternative and they should be rewarded for making this is a solid experience.

                              BB has...

                              One of the best mini-games ever
                              One of the best customization features ever
                              The greatest tackling/physics ever

                              So you'd think it would get a higher rating than a 5. I predicted mass media reviews would come in around 6-7, and if NM puts out a decent patch it could easily elevate it to a 7-8.

                              PC Gamer rated 'Dues Ex' the best game ever made, although it has really dumb AI. There's something about this game as well - it's addicting although the CPU QB isn't the smartest kid on the block.

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                              • RaiderKtulu
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 1377

                                #45
                                Re: Backbreaker Review

                                Originally posted by mestevo
                                The typical person is going to go online and join a quick match or whatever, it's a fair concern. If you are any of those other use cases then you are likely a minority and you know that it doesn't apply to you. I don't see the big deal, it's a fair point. Some people even posted in the impressions thread that they are glad that this game has less cheese, the review indicates otherwise, and as you said, cheese exists in all games. If that's most/all the reviewer saw online, then it's clearly fair game to include.
                                So, does watching your corpse get teabagged by a 13yr old make Halo 3 a worse game? I don't recall that getting mentioned in any reviews.

                                Seriously, "some of the people that play this game are a-holes" is not a valid criticism.

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