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  • Chip Douglass
    Hall Of Fame
    • Dec 2005
    • 12256

    #31
    Re: Overtime Needs To Be Changed....

    Originally posted by timid
    It sucks to see a great game come down to what effectively is a coin toss.....Just my opinion..
    Really? Is defense not half of the game?

    If the Colts wanted the ball back, then they shouldn't have committed 3 penalties on the final drive.

    Not to mention, teams that win the coin toss only win half of the time.
    Last edited by Chip Douglass; 01-05-2009, 07:37 PM.
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    • yamabushi
      MVP
      • Feb 2006
      • 1265

      #32
      Re: Overtime Needs To Be Changed....

      Originally posted by Flyboy
      *yawn*

      Play defense, make the offense punt.

      Simple.
      What he said.
      man up and play D.

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      • Lerxt
        Rookie
        • Aug 2003
        • 317

        #33
        Re: Overtime Needs To Be Changed....

        Originally posted by muggins
        <table width="417" border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td width="286">Total no. of overtime games (1974–2003)</td> <td width="124">
        365
        </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Both teams had at least one possession</td> <td>
        261 (72 %)
        </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Team won toss and won game</td> <td>
        189 (52 %)
        </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Team lost toss and won game</td> <td>
        160 (44 %)
        </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Team won toss and drove for winning score</td> <td>
        102 (28 %)
        </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Games ending in a tie</td> <td>
        15 (5 %)
        </td></tr></tbody></table>
        So 52% of the time the team that won the toss won the game, and only 28% of the time they won the toss and won on that drive. Seems like fine statistics to me.

        Like Extremegamer said above, you don't play four quarters then change the game. You don't play 9 innings in baseball then have a homerun derby. You don't run 500 laps in Nascar then do a quarter mile drag (although Nascar doesn't have OT... anyway), you don't play 4 quarters of NBA then have a dunk contest to see who wins.

        The college formula specifically ignores special teams returns, something which I think is a significant part of the game.
        Assuming these numbers are right, this pretty much sums it up. Anyone that thinks overtime in the NFL is decided by a coin toss is clearly not paying attention to the facts. 52% of the time, the team that wins the toss wins the game. Only slightly more than 1 out of every four times does the other team not see the ball. It's fine. It works.
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        • poster
          All Star
          • Nov 2003
          • 7506

          #34
          Re: Overtime Needs To Be Changed....

          There is nothing wrong with the NFL OT rules. This always comes up when a team loses like this, playoffs or not. I guess losing the coin toss is the only reason for the loss, god forbid you look back on the game and look at all of the chances squandered.

          Indy had their chances. The newly crowned MVP did nothing late in the game when needed most, and their D committed stupid penalties in OT.

          SD wanted it more and it showed. Season is on the line, you need a stop on D. If you can't get it done, go home.

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          • TRASHMAN2K
            Rookie
            • Jul 2004
            • 548

            #35
            Re: Overtime Needs To Be Changed....

            Well both teams had 60 mins to win the game. I have no problem with the system the way it is.

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            • Chip Douglass
              Hall Of Fame
              • Dec 2005
              • 12256

              #36
              Re: Overtime Needs To Be Changed....

              Originally posted by muggins
              <table width="417" border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td width="286">Total no. of overtime games (1974–2003)</td> <td width="124">
              365
              </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Both teams had at least one possession</td> <td>
              261 (72 %)
              </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Team won toss and won game</td> <td>
              189 (52 %)
              </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Team lost toss and won game</td> <td>
              160 (44 %)
              </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Team won toss and drove for winning score</td> <td>
              102 (28 %)
              </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Games ending in a tie</td> <td>
              15 (5 %)
              </td></tr></tbody></table>
              So 52% of the time the team that won the toss won the game, and only 28% of the time they won the toss and won on that drive. Seems like fine statistics to me.
              And that wraps up this thread.
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              • MaddenMan
                Tebow is Chuck Norris
                • Jul 2002
                • 5632

                #37
                Re: Overtime Needs To Be Changed....

                I agree the NFL needs to change OT, I like the college rules setup the best.

                I want to see a stat that shows a team win the toss and score on the first drive they have in OT, if it's anything over 5% it's unfair.
                Last edited by MaddenMan; 01-05-2009, 08:22 PM.

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                • kehlis
                  Moderator
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 27738

                  #38
                  Re: Overtime Needs To Be Changed....

                  Originally posted by MaddenMan
                  I want to see a stat that shows a team win the toss and score on the first drive they have in OT, if it's anything over 5% it's unfair.
                  28%

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                  • Lerxt
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 317

                    #39
                    Re: Overtime Needs To Be Changed....

                    Originally posted by MaddenMan
                    I agree the NFL needs to change OT, I like the college rules setup the best.

                    I want to see a stat that shows a team win the toss and score on the first drive they have in OT, if it's anything over 5% it's unfair.
                    How did you come up with 5%? Why is anything over 5% not fair?
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                    • Nza
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 3437

                      #40
                      Re: Overtime Needs To Be Changed....

                      I reckon they should adopt college style rules in playoffs only.

                      Regular season stats aren't interfered with, and it makes for a more epic end IMO.

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                      • Alliball
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 2368

                        #41
                        Re: Overtime Needs To Be Changed....

                        Originally posted by goh
                        I'm in favor of a 10 minute quater.

                        I'm more concerned an 8-8 team got the home game over a 12-4 team while an 11-5 team doesn't even get in. Sounds like the BCS.
                        Yeah, that 8-8 team managed to beat both of those teams. They sure don't belong where they are.

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                        • WDOgF0reL1fe
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 3427

                          #42
                          Re: Overtime Needs To Be Changed....

                          ^ I was gonna say the same thing.

                          If the Broncos had gotten in, than (if i were a pats fan) i would be upset, seeing as how the pats demolished the broncos.

                          But that aint the case.
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                          • Alliball
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 2368

                            #43
                            Re: Overtime Needs To Be Changed....

                            Originally posted by WDOgF0reL1fe
                            ^ I was gonna say the same thing.

                            If the Broncos had gotten in, than (if i were a pats fan) i would be upset, seeing as how the pats demolished the broncos.

                            But that aint the case.
                            And acting as if the Colts would have been helped by playing San Diego in Indy when, correct me if I'm wrong, the Chargers have won their last two trips there.

                            The better team is the final 8, some people just need to get over it.

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                            • Jukeman
                              Showtime
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 10955

                              #44
                              Re: Overtime Needs To Be Changed....

                              NFL OT is booring........I'd rather see a dance contest in the end zone!

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                              • muggins
                                It is now the SW Era
                                • May 2003
                                • 5379

                                #45
                                Re: Overtime Needs To Be Changed....

                                Originally posted by Rocky
                                Don't you have shootouts in soccer?

                                I don't think that's the point though. The point is that NFL overtimes have to be the least anti-climatic events in all of sports. Take away the scope of the overtime...is it really more thrilling, more entertaining than a college overtime. Has any NFL OT game topped Miami/OSU of 2002? CFB OT has some flaws, but IMO, it is infinately more exciting then the 95% of the NFL OT's.
                                Eh, CFB overtimes take players like Devin Hester, Steve Tasker, and Dante Hall off the field so they can do an 11 on 11 scrimmage. What could be more exciting than sudden death?
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