Overtime Needs To Be Changed....

[PSU_DW2]

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I reckon they should adopt college style rules in playoffs only.

Regular season stats aren't interfered with, and it makes for a more epic end IMO.

I think it's much more epic to receive a kickoff and drive down the length of the field than scoring a touchdown or a field goal from the 25 yard line. College overtime is a quick fix and isn't real football. NFL overtime is. If your defence can't stop a team from driving into field goal range and kicking a field goal, you lose. You have to kick the ball deep and play field position.

I liked it when the Giants beat the Panthers earlier this season by running it in for 6 instead of kicking the field goal in the swirling Meadowlands wind.

[TheMax1087]

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In any other sport both teams get a chance to score....baseball, hockey, basketball

There major differences between football and those sports. With basketball and hockey, your offense and defense are both playing at all times in overtime(not to mention its possible, though unlikely, for the team that wins the face off to win the game without the other team ever touching the puck, so thats a bad example anyway).

With baseball, the home team has a built in advantage since they always bat second. The home team won 65% of the 9284 extra innings games played between 1977 and 2006.

My feelings on the overtime being decided on a coin toss(even though the numbers clearly show that they arent) are simply this. If the game starts with a coin toss, why not end it with one.

[muggins]

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According to stats, 28% of the time the current OT rule takes Randy Moss, Peyton Manning, Ed Reed, Tom Brady, Derrick Brooks, Steve Smith, etc. off the field.

Not if they have good defenses. There is a CHANCE they will come on the field, a 72% chance, but in the college overtime, there is 0% chance that special teams returns will get to play.

[MC Fatigue]

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I'd like to see a change in the OT rules as well - but I'm undecided as to what.

I greatly dislike the coin toss system in OT.

At the beginning of the game, sure - because come second half, the other team kicks off and it starts anew. It's like having 2 games sort of. You get the kick off the first game, then you kick off the second. Both teams get a chance to start off with the ball; then it goes back and forth until time is up.

One coin toss doesn't decide the regular game. Play on both sides of the field does. You play defense, you play offense. Your whole team has an influence on the outcome.

In OT something like 45% of the time it's decided by a coin toss (I think they said that on one of those Sunday late morning pregame type shows).

Personally, rather than have 1 drive each, I'd like to see maybe a full or shortened quarter. Make it more like Basketball and Baseball - both teams can score, but the one who scores more wins it. Allow the entire team to influence the outcome; instead of risking just one side to decide the entire game.

Your defense isn't your team. Your offense, defense, and special teams are your team.

San Diego didn't beat Indianapolis. They beat Indianapolis' defense; which is a shame because they should also have to beat Peyton Manning's offense, and the special teams unit.

[Pappy Knuckles]

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There's no need to change the OT rules at all.

[greenegt]

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I like the "each team gets a possession" idea. After each team gets a possession, it's sudden death thereafter. If team A gets the ball first and tosses a pick-6, the game is over.

[timgrooms]

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I like it like it is. You know going in that's the rule. It keeps teams from spending all their money on offense and sucking on defense.

[TheMonopoly]

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Its rediculous to me that the team that always cries about the replay rule is the one that loses the game.

Can anyone make the connection here.

Even tho said team never commented on the OT rule in games they won in OT.

Can anyone follow whut im saying.

[snepp]

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Whut exactly are you saying? That it's rediculous?

[Alliball]

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Its rediculous to me that the team that always cries about the replay rule is the one that loses the game.

Can anyone make the connection here.

Even tho said team never commented on the OT rule in games they won in OT.

Can anyone follow whut im saying.

You lost me at whut.

[mickj]

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I'm fine with it being sudden death, as long as it's by a touchdown. No field goals allowed.

It would make for better games I think. It makes me sick watching teams in OT take the first possession and play for a field goal.

[MaddenMan]

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/01/06/OT-debate/index.html?eref=T1

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/for_the_record/posts/38281

It's the talk of Sportsillustrated.com

[Fiasco West]

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I'm fine with it being sudden death, as long as it's by a touchdown. No field goals allowed.

It would make for better games I think. It makes me sick watching teams in OT take the first possession and play for a field goal.

I agree.

I've never liked the coin-flip because it can take a teams star/best/money player and not give him a chance...like Peyton Manning.

I get the whole thing about "Well your defense just needs to step up." but some teams are BUILT on offense and their offense puts their defense in great position to win games.

It is what it is though and both teams know the rules, but I think the sudden death TD thing is a cool idea.

[timid]

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From Peter King.....

"Forget all the stuff about extrapolating what happens when Team B has to forget about punting, or the pressure that Team B would feel if Team A put a touchdown on the board. There's nothing in football -- except for an 8-8 team playing host to a 12-4 team in a playoff game, which I still can't believe hasn't been fixed by the league -- as unfair as the overtime rule"

"If this system is so fair, then why has, on 99 percent of the coin flips to start overtime in the last 35 years, the team that won the coin flip chosen to receive? Because it's a huge advantage to get the ball first."

You're right, Mr. Brasco. Just because he's Peyton Manning doesn't mean we should engineer some sort of phony baloney rule to make sure that the great Manning is able to touch the ball in overtime. But in a game where the hottest quarterback in the last month of the season (San Diego's Philip Rivers) duels the hottest quarterback in the last half of the season (Manning), I think it's folly that the toss of a coin should play such a big role in one of them touching the ball from that point on and the other not.

"But I spent time on about three talk shows Monday saying what happened in the first 60 minutes of the game means absolutely nothing once you get to overtime. It's a new game. If the Colts had won the toss and Manning had driven Indy to the winning points on the opening possession, you could say exactly the same thing about Rivers that you just said about Manning. Three times in the second half Rivers produced zero points after driving the Chargers into Colts territory. So who was the worst quarterback in the second half: Rivers or Manning? And why should that matter?"

I agree with him completely. Last time I checked, I've never heard a team NOT take the ball in OT......You could even hear the Chargers player say "game over" as soon as they won they toss.....

[muggins]

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Yet only 52% of the time, by the statistics, does the team who wins the toss win the game.

Total no. of overtime games (1974–2003) 365
Both teams had at least one possession 261 (72 %)
Team won toss and won game 189 (52 %)
Team lost toss and won game 160 (44 %)
Team won toss and drove for winning score 102 (28 %)
Games ending in a tie 15 (5 %)