Brett Favre=Mr. Overrated (Now officially back)

[ftball11]

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I think Farve has so much hate for the Green Bay Front Office, who did not bow down to him, and for the fans, who did not demand the Packers bring him back, he is now seeking revenge.

I think, once the Packers front office washed their hands of him and the fans did not turn the State of Wisconsin into a fiery inferno, Farve started on a quest to show them up – to show everyone HE was the franchise in Green Bay.

Last year, he thought the Jets would give him the best opportunity to do that – many thought the Jets had a legitimate shot at the Super Bowl, if they could get a solid QB. This year, it is Minnesota, where many think the QB position is the Vikings missing link to Super Bowl Stardom.

Of course, this is all fueled by his enormous ego, but I can see Farve playing until he feels he has shown up the Packers and every Cheese Head on this planet. Unless his skills diminish to the point no team is interested. And no I DO NOT wish injury on him.

However, I do think the Packer Fans should wash their hands of him, yes he won many games and a Super Bowl, but I don’t see how the Packer Nation can stand for this slap in the face. Farve has displayed no love for Packer Fans and no gratitude for the opportunity the Packers gave him. This is all about him and securing the legacy HE thinks he should have.

[wwharton]

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I think Farve has so much hate for the Green Bay Front Office, who did not bow down to him, and for the fans, who did not demand the Packers bring him back, he is now seeking revenge.

I think, once the Packers front office washed their hands of him and the fans did not turn the State of Wisconsin into a fiery inferno, Farve started on a quest to show them up – to show everyone HE was the franchise in Green Bay.

Last year, he thought the Jets would give him the best opportunity to do that – many thought the Jets had a legitimate shot at the Super Bowl, if they could get a solid QB. This year, it is Minnesota, where many think the QB position is the Vikings missing link to Super Bowl Stardom.

Of course, this is all fueled by his enormous ego, but I can see Farve playing until he feels he has shown up the Packers and every Cheese Head on this planet. Unless his skills diminish to the point no team is interested. And no I DO NOT wish injury on him.

However, I do think the Packer Fans should wash their hands of him, yes he won many games and a Super Bowl, but I don’t see how the Packer Nation can stand for this slap in the face. Farve has displayed no love for Packer Fans and no gratitude for the opportunity the Packers gave him. This is all about him and securing the legacy HE thinks he should have.

True besides the bolded part. He tried to force his way to Minnesota last year. He straight up said he wanted to go to a team in the division, the Vikings were accused of tampering b/c there was word that Favre was talking to them AND GB went above and beyond to make sure they were paid handsomely if Favre ended up there. The only reason GB's plan didn't work is b/c Favre forced the Jets to release him before un-retiring again. He didn't want to go to the Jets at all but after all the fuss about wanting to "just play" he pretty much had to.

[EdgeCrusher]

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Typing hypothetically..And this would be PERFECT(for FavreCenter) for ESPN.That say Brett gets hurt before the first Packer game in Minn. And he's done for the season.
Do you think he hangs it up immediatley or hangs around until the end of the season providing "leadership".

[dragon4ever]

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Wow, this thread has grown since the last time I checked. I've only read a few pages up to this point because I don't have the time right now to go back and catch up on a 100 pages of the previous discussion. However,I feel obligated to voice an opinion regarding Favre's latest attempt to come out of retirement once again.

As I said before, I think that Favre is one of the most overrated QB's to ever play the game. The only other QB that would give Brett a run for his money in the overrated department is Terry Bradshaw, but we'll have to save that for another time. I don't feel the need to delve into this any further at this time because I've already said my piece.

I find it rather comical that we have posters on this very forum that feel "offended" that Brett has decided to come out of retirement and play for a rival team. Everyone is screaming how Brett is selfish, that he has a personal vendetta against the Packers, that he strung along his comeback for the purpose of missing training camp, etc. Did you ever think that maybe his intention had nothing to do with any of this? Perhaps he truly missed the game and his passion for football led him back to give it a go one last time. Maybe it was because of the money. In either case, you can't blame a guy for wanting to play again. You pay me 12 mil and I'll be there in a heartbeat. It's tough to give up the sport you love when you're a professional athlete. It's speculation on everyone's part to assume the true reason why Brett came out of retirement.

Football is a business first and foremost and if you don't believe that, you're in complete denial. Brett doesn't owe the fans of Greenbay a damn thing. He didn't force you to come and watch him play. It was your choice to support him, but now you want to crucify him because you feel betrayed. Unless you have a personal relationship with Brett Favre and he did something to directly offend you, what's the point of getting all bent out of shape?

[wwharton]

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Who's crucifying him? Who's getting bent out of shape? What's with all the accusations and labeling of people voicing their opinions?

BTW, we can consider many reasons he decided to do it. I ruled out your suggestions when he basically forced the Jets to release him while he was still retired. What was the point of that? To sign a one day contract and retire a Packer? It's true that he wouldn't have been able to play for the Vikings without that happening.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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Muhammed Ali, Deion Sanders, Ocho Cinco. And Wide Receivers in general.

Neither bent over for the camera @ the expense of their teammates.

[Jistic]

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Neither bent over for the camera @ the expense of their teammates.

Right. So last year at this time when Ocho Cinco was calling up ESPN every day crying about wanting out of Cincy, that was a team unity move?

When Deion whored himself from team to team every year or two, getting flown around by team owners, attending games in their luxury boxes, messing with the local media and players at every stop. That was about team? When he flew back and forth between baseball and football games earlier in his career. What team was that about?

Please don't start telling me about being a good team mate in the NFL. Like all of a sudden this isn't a business and everyone's not out for themselves.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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All that "He still loves the game" **** doesn't even matter anymore when you have to fake retire just to get your way.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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Right. So last year at this time when Ocho Cinco was calling up ESPN every day crying about wanting out of Cincy, that was a team unity move?

When Deion whored himself from team to team every year or two, getting flown around by team owners, attending games in their luxury boxes, messing with the local media and players at every stop. That was about team? When he flew back and forth between baseball and football games earlier in his career. What team was that about?

Please don't start telling me about being a good team mate in the NFL. Like all of a sudden this isn't a business and everyone's not out for themselves.

What Chad did never affected his teammates. His dispute was w/the ownership, not the players. He didn't miss any mandatory practices.

Deion was signed by teams in different sports. Everybody knew what the deal was when they gave him the contracts. He still was there to play & it wasn't at the expense of his teammates.

[Scottdau]

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As a Vikings fan I very happy to get Brett. Not because he is going to help this team, even though I do think he will. Nope. It is because we are going to see them play tomorrow and that would not have happen if he wasn't on the Vikings. So I am loving it!

[steelcurtain311]

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The only other QB that would give Brett a run for his money in the overrated department is Terry Bradshaw, but we'll have to save that for another time.

Except that nobody at all rates Terry Bradshaw very highly. Not even people in Pittsburgh. Favre is regarded by many people as "the greatest". Terry Bradshaw is in no way, shape, or form regarded as "the greatest" by anybody.



This whole "I just want to play football" thing is just tired. If he just wanted to play football, he'd still be in NY. But no. He pulled another retirement scam just to finally get his way and go to Minnesota so he can try to embarrass the Packers.

I hope the Packers DESTROY the Vikings both times they play this season. I really do.

[Jistic]

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What Chad did never affected his teammates.

Ask Carson Palmer.

Instead of coming up with all this B.S. about being a good team mate like that means anything in the NFL, just say "I hate Brett Favre". Good enough. To the point. Done.

[metallicatz]

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You don't think locker room chemistry means anything in the NFL? Chemistry and cohesion can be the difference between a contender and a pretender. That's where being a teammate, and more importantly, being a leader come into play. Favre doesn't bring chemistry and leadership to a team with his antics, he is now a divider of locker rooms. Dysfunctional organizations don't win championships. It's no accident that teams with great organizations like the Colts, Patriots, Giants, and Steelers have been winning Super Bowls. And the Vikings are dysfunctional from the ownership/Front office level right on down through the coaching staff and team. There's no way any player for the Minnesota Vikings can trust anything that is said by either the front office or the coaching staff becuase they've been outright lied to so many times at this point about Favre.

Football players aren't going to follow a guy they know put on a huge charade to avoid doing any work in the offseason only to breeze in at zero hour and assume command of the starting QB position. On top of that, it's a small league. Players talk to eachother. They've heard plenty from Packers and Jets players about what kind of teammate and leader Brett Favre is (and i'll bet the feedback hasn't been very positive).

[Jistic]

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You do realize Vikings players were texting him for months asking him to come?

I guess that makes them all bad team mates then? They have betrayed Tavarius Jackson! OMG!

The only chemistry needed in pro sports is showing up for practice and gameday. He will do both unless he's injured.

Like Jarred Allen said the other day. He could care less when he showed up. If they get to Miami, that's all that matters.

And yes that is all that matters. The players up there are already signing his praises. If being in camp was that critical to team success, then all hold outs would be vilified.

[wwharton]

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He already lied to skip important aspects of practice and it's been said he probably won't practice as much during the weeks bc of his torn rotator cuff.

All players don't care if they go to the SB... but what if they don't? More importantly, what if they go on a 3 game losing streak and look like they aren't going... then what?

All hold outs are pretty much vilified. Mr. Favre himself spoke out against Javon Walker threatening to hold out for more money, and how it wouldn't be fair to the team.