Edgerrin James has my respect

[Illustrator76]

Re: Edgerrin James has my respect

No, it happen way before the "U" stuff. It started with Jimmy Johnson and those ultra talented teams in the 80's. I remember because I am a Fighting Irish fans and there were a few years that the U tore us a new hole and matter a fact they tore d-1 football a new one.

Those teams were soooooooooooo fast on both side of the ball. What I am trying to say that the hatred of the U came from jealousy. You still see it to this very day.

I disagree, their rep got even worse in recent years and it had nothing to do with them being good (because they weren't). They recruit more bad seeds with more bad attitudes than any other program in my opinion. I'm not saying that other teams don't have them, but most of the time they get dealt with, at Miami it's seems almost like bad behavior is encouraged.

[KG]

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I wouldn't even waste my time P2K.

[SportsTop]

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I wouldn't even waste my time P2K.

I wouldn't either.

His point had no merit in this conversation (at least his point directed at me). It just came across as sounding a bit whiny over how Miami's program was perceived in the past.

It's interesting that this topic was sparked by a positive story from a former Miami player and has degenerated to this.

Is anyone ever really truly content with feel good stories no matter what the background?

[J0nnD0ugh]

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So, what was his uniform? Locks and a gold teeth and that made him what?

Made him look like he ran the streets late @ night doing who knows what. Its not right to judge someone based on that, agreed. But we know what image that presents. You don't equate that look w/school teachers, doctors, wallstreet mavens, firemen, accountants.... family men..........

[TheShizNo1]

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Made him look like he ran the streets late @ night doing who knows what. Its not right to judge someone based on that, agreed. But we know what image that presents. You don't equate that look w/school teachers, doctors, wallstreet mavens, firemen, accountants.... family men..........

That wasn't my point. My point was, years after not seeing him on ESPN for causing trouble, not seeing articles posted here talking about him getting in trouble, how can you still consider him a thug?

[JBH3]

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That wasn't my point. My point was, years after not seeing him on ESPN for causing trouble, not seeing articles posted here talking about him getting in trouble, how can you still consider him a thug?

How can you consider Marvin Harrison a stand-up guy now?

[slickdtc]

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What I found interesting is the article linked in the article. About how when Edge needed to get his game back, he started training at crazy hours of the morning. And, according to him, the only people up then were crackheads. So he'd give them 20 bucks and buy them breakfast and they would train with him for the day. Kinda crazy, kinda cool.

[SportsTop]

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That wasn't my point. My point was, years after not seeing him on ESPN for causing trouble, not seeing articles posted here talking about him getting in trouble, how can you still consider him a thug?

"Made him look" as in past tense.

It's already been established that everyone in the thread considers him a positive role model and stand up guy.

The whole issue, right or wrong, is that it was perception based off appearance.

[TheShizNo1]

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How can you consider Marvin Harrison a stand-up guy now?

I don't remember saying anything about Marvin Harrison

[SportsTop]

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I don't remember saying anything about Marvin Harrison

Did you just hear that?

That was the sound of his point flying right over your head.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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That wasn't my point. My point was, years after not seeing him on ESPN for causing trouble, not seeing articles posted here talking about him getting in trouble, how can you still consider him a thug?

I already responded to you 2-3 pages back.

The comment you just quoted was a response to grunt.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Ahh, only on OS where a guy can admit he made a mistake based on one impression to people arguing over a word that has no true definition whatsoever.

[TheShizNo1]

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Did you just hear that?

That was the sound of his point flying right over your head.

touche

[P2K]

Re: Edgerrin James has my respect

I wouldn't either.

His point had no merit in this conversation (at least his point directed at me). It just came across as sounding a bit whiny over how Miami's program was perceived in the past.

It's interesting that this topic was sparked by a positive story from a former Miami player and has degenerated to this.

Is anyone ever really truly content with feel good stories no matter what the background?

I'm whiny because you, that Illustrator genius and many more people still think Miami is Thug U because of FORMER rep and how players look. Meanwhile, Penn State's clean-cut players are getting booked left and right.

Where is this talk with Florida Gators players? Dudes there are getting arrested every five minutes, shooting off Uzis and what not. AND alot of their players resemble Miami players with the dreads, grills and so on. Where is their rep?

Sorry about making this a big deal but it amazes me that rep from years ago is tattooed on peoples' brains to the point that no matter what...things are the way they want them to be. Feels like a social study.

[Illustrator76]

Re: Edgerrin James has my respect

I'm whiny because you, that Illustrator genius and many more people still think Miami is Thug U because of FORMER rep and how players look. Meanwhile, Penn State's clean-cut players are getting booked left and right.

Where is this talk with Florida Gators players? Dudes there are getting arrested every five minutes, shooting off Uzis and what not. AND alot of their players resemble Miami players with the dreads, grills and so on. Where is their rep?

Sorry about making this a big deal but it amazes me that rep from years ago is tattooed on peoples' brains to the point that no matter what...things are the way they want them to be. Feels like a social study.

Momma always said that I wuz smart. Am I a genius because I can actually read and comprehend? Go back and read my statement again. No one forced those guys to act all hard all of the time and parade around as if "The U" is some kind of gang or something. It's a freakin' college where you went to school at, you are a grown man mean muggin' the camera and saying "The U" like you are some kind of Crip or Blood, it's unintelligent and childish and not unlike most of the football players that come from there.

Furthermore, I never said ONE thing about stereyotyping the players based on how they look, but if you COMBINE that with their roughneck attitudes, actions and expressions, you can't reasonably defend how these guys are perceived by others. Think Kellen Winslow Jr. threatening to kill someone on national TV, those are the kind of aggressive, uncontrollable hot heads that Miami (I refuse to call them that ridiculous "The U") looks for.